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In that case, I'm definitely voting for the guy who lost the debate.
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Kamala Harris clearly won debate over Donald Trump but VP got no bump from voters after performance: poll
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Yet if he had won on style, would there be any doubt that his legions of sycophants would still take it as clear evidence of his god-like powers and greatness? As he (and you, and I, and everyone) would no doubt agree, a W is a W. There are no asterisks placed into the history books alerting readers *did not win on substance, only style.
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No post-debate poll bump for Harris, still neck-and-neck with Trump nationally: poll
By Josh Christenson Published Sep. 19, 2024, 11:48 a.m. ETNo post-debate poll bump for Harris, still neck-and-neck with Trump nationally: poll
Should I keep waiting?
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Nate Silver’s got her doing a bit better in PA now.
FINAL Silver Bulletin 2024 presidential election forecast
All the numbers for Trump vs. Harris.
www.natesilver.net
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It think that the NYT is slightly more credible than your poker player.
Results of a nationwide New York Times/Siena College poll of 2,437 likely voters, including a poll of 1,082 voters in Pennsylvania and Philadelphia, conducted from Sept. 11 to 16, 2024.
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I love it when people are smug about things they obviously didn’t read closely.
When you follow my Nate Silver link and click the link at the top about Harris’ numbers in PA, it brings you to the NYT article about that exact NYT/Siena poll:
Harris Had Stronger Debate, Polls Find, but the Race Remains Deadlocked
Kamala Harris holds an edge over Donald J. Trump in the battleground state of Pennsylvania. But new surveys found that the race remains a tossup nationally.
The poll page to which you linked is for the nationwide numbers. I specifically mentioned her PA numbers. If you follow your page’s link to the PA-specific polls, you get this:
Last I checked, 48 > 45.
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I did enough research on you poker player to consider the source. If you wish to cling to his spin; that's your prerogative.
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lol, no you didn't. You didn't research anything. You didn't read the posts in this thread; you didn't read the links within them. If you'd done any research at all, you wouldn't be making these comments. You're just doubling-down on your smug incorrectness. Your posts would make more sense if you were just trying to troll me into confusion.
In post 66, I only sought to bring up Harris' polls in Pennsylvania. That's it. And, for some reason, you keep coming at me with national polls as if that somehow debunks what I said about the PA polls.
As I already noted, his "spin" is the very same NYT/Siena poll that you referenced. He's not spinning anything; he's just describing the results of the poll. That poll released both nationwide numbers and numbers for PA specifically. I'm talking about the PA numbers and you keep talking about the US numbers. Was there not 30 seconds of your research that clued you in to this?
Did you bother to read the top of that page?
Again, those are the NATIONWIDE numbers. When you click "Pennsylvania Toplines", you get the PENNSYLVANIA numbers, which have her up 48-45 in Pennsylvania, as I already pointed out.
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