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So now you're accusing Trump of lying based on what other people said?
I guess repeating something enough times makes it true.
So, say which lie you're talking about. Is that too much to ask?
If you're asking if the loaded question is projecting distrust through cynicism, that would depend on if you have evidence to support your claim or not. If not, then it's definitely projecting a negative prejudice towards Kamala.
I was obviously addressing your statement, as evidenced by the fact that I quoted you.
I'm not playing mind games. I can prove it's a loaded question. Here's the question:
Here's the problem on this thread ----> Kamala claim: “What you’re going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous plan called Project 2025 that the former president intends on implementing if he were elected again.”
Try reading it again.
And yet the opposite happened because he has consistently said he's not involved in any way with Project 2025. So she made a false statement.
This is the context:
I don't think you understand. You're the one saying Kamala is lying. You're the accuser here. I am asking for convincing proof that what you claim actually happened. Practicing grace through faith is in this case the presumption of innocence until proven guilty.
I'm reasonably confident that what Trump means is he wasn't involved in the creating of project 2025. But Harris doesn't claim he was involved in creating project 2025, she simply made a pronouncement that Trump would implement it. I see no evidence of an intent to deceive. Where is the proof of an intent to deceive?
Someone seems to have a reading comprehension problem on this one.
He's gone even further disavowing any knowledge of it.
On this issue, she did not make a false statement.
Of course Trump wasn't involved in creating the plan, he's incapable of such. He bragged in 2015 that he would repeal and replace Obamacare with his plan. At the recent debate he claimed to now have a "concept of a plan."
There's no deception at all. Trump has said that the Heritage Foundations plan is, "exactly what our movement will do.. when the American people give us a colossal mandate to save America,"
Except there was no plan at the time. This was in 2022. Since then they wrote Project 2025 and he has now said he isn't going to follow it. So Harris is lying when she said he is going to do so. She is a liar.
Not true. The plan was establsihed in April of 2022, the same month that speech was made.
so which is it?
okay
yes I have. I have it downloaded on my machine and I've read it a couple times.
Subject for anothe thread but I won't leave you with crickets.
| Tax rate | Single filers | Married couples filing jointly | Married couples filing separately | Head of household |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 10% | $11,600 or less | $23,200 or less | $11,600 or less | $16,550 or less |
| 12% | $11,601 to $47,150 | $23,201 to $94,300 | $11,601 to $47,150 | $16,551 to $63,100 |
| 22% | $47,151 to $100,525 | $94,301 to $201,050 | $47,151 to $100,525 | $63,101 to $100,500 |
| 24% | $100,526 to $191,950 | $201,051 to $383,900 | $100,526 to $191,150 | $100,501 to $191,150 |
| 32% | $191,951 to $243,725 | $383,901 to $487,450 | $191,151 to $243,725 | $191,151 to $243,700 |
| 35% | $243,726 to $609,350 | $487,451 to $731,200 | $243,276 to $365,600 | $243,701 to $609,350 |
| 37% | $609,351 or more | $731,201 or more | $365,601 or more | $609,351 or more |
The plan was shown on April 14, 2022. Trumps speech at the Heritage foundation praising the plan was on April 21, 2022. I have not seen where Trump said he isn't going to follow it, and even if he did, from prior experience I am not prone to believe anything he says.
truthout.org
You could never have prepared against the bias of the moderators no matter what he would do. Trump does pride himself as going live with living in the moment thinking or hoping his assertiveness will win the day. Not really though but his voters will LOOK at his policies. That's why they'll vote for him. As for people tired of the same old song and dance.....that pretty much sums up of what think of mainstream media debates anyway. It's got old and I'm tired of the dance of seeing such an obvious display of their showing bias. As far as I"m concerned they the debates all belong in the trash! The question is what's the basic thing one is saying about policies.......
She could very well have. I didn't watch the debate. I refuse to subject my mind to everybody's manipulation but Harris might have sounded more professional....yes even more coherent.....she did practice for the debate something Trump might see as a weakness. But look everyone knows the basic polices of the Dems.....and they truly know those of Trump. The debates are just noise but the policies are central. They don't talk about policies much (at least in debates I've seen) but folks you all do know them. You will pick and choose on the day but I'd hope your choice wouldn't be based on personalities.....the policies of the other might give you a reality check sometime in the future you may not find desirable to experience.
