Age of Grace(Time of Ignorance) Church age

[Legion7777777]

Times of Ignorance. Current Church age deception.

 

[David Lamb]

Times of Ignorance. Current Church age deception.

I'm glad I looked at the attachment! I thought from your title that you were saying the grace age was an age of ignorance.

 

[Legion7777777]

I'm glad I looked at the attachment! I thought from your title that you were saying the grace age was an age of ignorance.

That is what I'm saying. That's what the scriptures say.

 

[David Lamb]

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That is what I'm saying. That's what the scriptures say.

But surely you didn't mean that the words "the age of grace" mean the same thing as "the time of ignorance" - in other words, I hope you weren't saying that the age of grace is of itself an ignorant age!

 

[Legion7777777]

But surely you didn't mean that the words "the age of grace" mean the same thing as "the time of ignorance" - in other words, I hope you weren't saying that the age of grace is of itself an ignorant age!

Acts chapter 17 is saying those who believed In the religious system(denominationalism) in this current age of Grace are ignorant. The age of Grace is for those who have accepted Christ as their Truth and not the religious system that killed him.

 

[Dan Perez]

That is what I'm saying. That's what the scriptures say.

And you say that you have a verse ?

dan p

 

[Legion7777777]

And you say that you have a verse ?

dan p

that's what Acts 17 says. the entire chapter is about this. Its all scripture in the attached file explaining everything. Find me a verse that says "the age of Grace"
Acts 17:30 KJV — And the *times of this ignorance* God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

the verse leading up to act 17:30 tell you exactly what is going on right now. Hab 2:1-20 is a Prophecy of this very thing, along with all of Paul's writings warning you about this. The Judas covenant will help further your understanding on what taking place right now. Not much time left

 

[David Lamb]

Acts chapter 17 is saying those who believed In the religious system(denominationalism) in this current age of Grace are ignorant. The age of Grace is for those who have accepted Christ as their Truth and not the religious system that killed him.

Acts 17 doesn't mention denominationalism. It mentions Jews who were not persuaded, and certain Epicurian and Stoic philosophers. As you go on to mention the religious system that killed Jesus, I assume you mean the unbelieving Jews. But "Jews" is a nationality, not a denomination. You seem to be saying (if I'm not mistaken) that all Christian denominations are like the unbelieving Jews. That is a rather sweeping statement. Yes, there are some denominations that don't believe in the authority of God's Word, the bible. But that is certainly not true of all denominations. To say that all denominations are like the unbelieving Jews of Paul's day just is not correct.

 

[Legion7777777]

Acts 17 doesn't mention denominationalism. It mentions Jews who were not persuaded, and certain Epicurian and Stoic philosophers. As you go on to mention the religious system that killed Jesus, I assume you mean the unbelieving Jews. But "Jews" is a nationality, not a denomination. You seem to be saying (if I'm not mistaken) that all Christian denominations are like the unbelieving Jews. That is a rather sweeping statement. Yes, there are some denominations that don't believe in the authority of God's Word, the bible. But that is certainly not true of all denominations. To say that all denominations are like the unbelieving Jews of Paul's day just is not correct.

Judas Covenant

 

[David Lamb]

Judas Covenant

Sorry, but what is "Judas Covenant"? It's not mentioned in the bible.

 

[Legion7777777]

Sorry, but what is "Judas Covenant"? It's not mentioned in the bible.

The KJV has the covenant. All other translations of the Bible have removed it, for a reason. That should tell you something.

Matthew 26:15 KJV — And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they *covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver.

Isaiah 28:15 KJV — Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:

Betrayal: Beginning of Denominationalism set up by Judas Gen 25:29-34 sold birth right-first fruit Zec 11:12,13 Matt 26:14-16 Mark 14:15, 44 Acts 3:14,15 Matt 18:18 Luke 22:5,6 Luke 22:47,48 unholy kiss John 12:6-money bag Luke 22:5,6 Rev 1:18 3:20 Isa 28:15-18-SCOURGE {Jer 6:30 Luke 18:33 2Tim 3:7-9 Titus 1:16 Rev 2&3})

 

[Dan Perez]

I'm glad I looked at the attachment! I thought from your title that you were saying the grace age was an age of ignorance.

Does that means that what Paul wrote in Eph 3:2 , is called , seeing that you have heard of the DISPENSATION of the Grace of God having been given to me FOR YOU ?

So what does DISPENSATION // OIKONOMIA , then mean ?/

dan p

 

[ViaCrucis]

The KJV has the covenant. All other translations of the Bible have removed it, for a reason. That should tell you something.

Including translations of the Bible from before 1611?

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Legion7777777]

Including translations of the Bible from before 1611?

-CryptoLutheran

have to see if you can find one

 

[ViaCrucis]

Sorry, but what is "Judas Covenant"? It's not mentioned in the bible.

People like to make things up, then claim those things are biblical, and then toot their own horn because nobody else believes in the things they make up.

St. Paul warned about these things two thousand years ago. The sole purpose for these lies is to try and convert Christian Faithful and turn them away from Christ. Because such lies have an obvious source. Just because the devil lost doesn't mean he doesn't rage. The devil rages because he knows his time is short.

We must always be vigilant, and steadfast in Christ against these things. And those who sow chaos and lies? We must pray for them, for they are victims of the devil's own insanity.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

have to see if you can find one

You don't know?

What if it's not in any Bible before the KJV? Does that mean the God-breathed and inspired writers of the Bible are wrong if they don't agree with the KJV?

-CryptoLutheran

 

[David Lamb]

The KJV has the covenant. All other translations of the Bible have removed it, for a reason. That should tell you something.

Matthew 26:15 KJV — And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they *covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver.

Isaiah 28:15 KJV — Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:

Betrayal: Beginning of Denominationalism set up by Judas Gen 25:29-34 sold birth right-first fruit Zec 11:12,13 Matt 26:14-16 Mark 14:15, 44 Acts 3:14,15 Matt 18:18 Luke 22:5,6 Luke 22:47,48 unholy kiss John 12:6-money bag Luke 22:5,6 Rev 1:18 3:20 Isa 28:15-18-SCOURGE {Jer 6:30 Luke 18:33 2Tim 3:7-9 Titus 1:16 Rev 2&3})

Yes, I should have realised that the Judas Covenant referred to the agreement between Judas and the Jewish leadership to betray Jesus. What I don't see is that every denomination in Christendom owes its existence to that betrayal. Yes, sadly there are some denominations that have strayed to far from biblical truth that they are preaching a false gospel, and in that sense are betraying the Saviour, but it's surely saying too much to suggest that every denomination is like that.

 

[Legion7777777]

Yes, I should have realised that the Judas Covenant referred to the agreement between Judas and the Jewish leadership to betray Jesus. What I don't see is that every denomination in Christendom owes its existence to that betrayal. Yes, sadly there are some denominations that have strayed to far from biblical truth that they are preaching a false gospel, and in that sense are betraying the Saviour, but it's surely saying too much to suggest that every denomination is like that.

God came to dwell in his people. You can start with the building itself. Gods not in there and wants nothing to do with it. Its corrupt. Its the reason Christ came. Gods the teacher, not man. These men have called themselves into service.

Satan's Dwelling place is in the church, his seat(throne), Depths, all his doctrine.All in Revelation chapter 2 and 3, This is the same story told over and over throughout the entire Bible. Satan is in the general assembly of the earth denominational system. Satan blinds, and that's what's taken place under this covenant. Im not against the people in the denominations, Im against the denominational system. You're greatly underestimating Satan's ability to deceive.

Take away the money, take away all denominations.

Luke 21:35 KJV — For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.

 

[ViaCrucis]

God came to dwell in his people. You can start with the building itself. Gods not in there and wants nothing to do with it. Its corrupt. Its the reason Christ came. Gods the teacher, not man. These men have called themselves into service.

Satan's Dwelling place is in the church, his seat(throne), Depths, all his doctrine.All in Revelation chapter 2 and 3, This is the same story told over and over throughout the entire Bible. Satan is in the general assembly of the earth denominational system. Satan blinds, and that's what's taken place under this covenant. Im not against the people in the denominations, Im against the denominational system. You're greatly underestimating Satan's ability to deceive.

Take away the money, take away all denominations.

Luke 21:35 KJV — For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.

What if I'm not in "the denominational system", I'm simply a member of Christ's Church, the One He instituted as described in Matthew 16. This Church needed reform in the 16th century because of certain abuses in teaching and practices. Which is why Luther insisted on Ad Fontes going back to the Source, the Scriptures; and emphasizing the pure preaching of the Gospel in the Church. The term "Lutheran" was foisted upon us by critics and opponents who were trying to accuse of heresy, trying to characterize Martin Luther as a heresiarch and founder of a new heresy--but Luther, and the other Evangelical Reformers, had no interest in creating a new church; but in being faithful to the One Church of Jesus Christ. I'm not a member of a "denominational system", I'm a member of Christ's one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church--the one which Jesus founded, the one which has existed since the beginning.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Legion7777777]

What if I'm not in "the denominational system", I'm simply a member of Christ's Church, the One He instituted as described in Matthew 16. This Church needed reform in the 16th century because of certain abuses in teaching and practices. Which is why Luther insisted on Ad Fontes going back to the Source, the Scriptures; and emphasizing the pure preaching of the Gospel in the Church. The term "Lutheran" was foisted upon us by critics and opponents who were trying to accuse of heresy, trying to characterize Martin Luther as a heresiarch and founder of a new heresy--but Luther, and the other Evangelical Reformers, had no interest in creating a new church; but in being faithful to the One Church of Jesus Christ. I'm not a member of a "denominational system", I'm a member of Christ's one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church--the one which Jesus founded, the one which has existed since the beginning.

-CryptoLutheran

Christ Church (Heb12:23) does NOT need reform, Ever.

2 Corinthians 11:3 KJV — But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the **simplicity** that is in Christ.