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Why do teenagers and young adults hate Christianity ?
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God Is Moving on Our University Campuses - The Stream
God is always working in the hearts of university students throughout the campuses of America. But there are times when the Spirit’s work intensifies, leading to campus awakenings.
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I probably went to church more on a Sunday than most other people do here. An early morning service most times, then Matins, Sunday school and then Evensong. I was head choir boy, my brother was in the choir as was my father, my mother played the organ. They were both members of 2 or 3 church social groups, I was in the church scouts and my mother produced and delivered the church magazine. My parents were married there as was my brother and both parents and paternal granparents were buried there. The family's social life revolved around the church.
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When I was around 13 I started confirmation classes which would have enabled me to take communion. It was then that I realised that people were taking all the stories I knew about the bible seriously. I had assumed that, to a certain degree, it was just something that we all went along with and most of it was allegorical. A metaphor for living a good life. But I was now expected to accept it all as being factually true? Well, obviously some of it was, but...I started questioning some of it - to myself.
By the time I was 16 I was just going through the motions. My father had just died and one Sunday morning I told my mother I wouldn't be going to church with her. She was very disappointed. And I felt guilty about disappointing her (and still do to a certain extent). But I never went back.
But the people there were the warmest, friendliest people. Salt of the earth. AndI did actually go back there when I was in the UK some years back. Just for old times sake. Relieve some memories. And my daughter wanted to come. See what took such a chunk of her old man's life back in the day. The service was over and there were a few people milling around and I swear, a couple of them recognised me. From over 40 years ago! We chatted and then one of them brought out the chalice that my mother had bought the church in memory of my father. Quite an emotional moment...
So it certainly wasn't the Christians that I knew that turned me away. In fact, they made it a little harder to leave.
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I probably went to church more on a Sunday than most other people do here. An early morning service most times, then Matins, Sunday school and then Evensong. I was head choir boy, my brother was in the choir as was my father, my mother played the organ. They were both members of 2 or 3 church social groups, I was in the church scouts and my mother produced and delivered the church magazine. My parents were married there as was my brother and both parents and paternal granparents were buried there. The family's social life revolved around the church.
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When I was around 13 I started confirmation classes which would have enabled me to take communion. It was then that I realised that people were taking all the stories I knew about the bible seriously. I had assumed that, to a certain degree, it was just something that we all went along with and most of it was allegorical. A metaphor for living a good life. But I was now expected to accept it all as being factually true? Well, obviously some of it was, but...I started questioning some of it - to myself.
By the time I was 16 I was just going through the motions. My father had just died and one Sunday morning I told my mother I wouldn't be going to church with her. She was very disappointed. And I felt guilty about disappointing her (and still do to a certain extent). But I never went back.
But the people there were the warmest, friendliest people. Salt of the earth. AndI did actually go back there when I was in the UK some years back. Just for old times sake. Relieve some memories. And my daughter wanted to come. See what took such a chunk of her old man's life back in the day. The service was over and there were a few people milling around and I swear, a couple of them recognised me. From over 40 years ago! We chatted and then one of them brought out the chalice that my mother had bought the church in memory of my father. Quite an emotional moment...
So it certainly wasn't the Christians that I knew that turned me away. In fact, they made it a little harder to leave.
Doesn't sound like you ever had a personal connection to Christ. As such, you were never really saved.
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Many do not really understand who Jesus is and the gospel how great it is.
But also we do read these verses.
2 Timothy 3: 1. This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3. Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4. Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5. Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.”
1 Timothy 4: 1. Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.”
But continue in the faith, seek
The Lord to help win souls, pray for all men
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Thank you for sharing this. I’m wondering if that church expected or required a literal interpretation of everything. I think I had a similar experience regarding the issue of evolution. When I discovered the evolution/creation issue I thought it would be a show stopper. In college I had totally been convinced evolution happened. But then I discovered that Catholics had always had wiggle room on that and did not have to agree with Ussher that the earth was created in 4004 BC and all that. I’m just wondering if you discovered you were expected to follow Ussher’s 4004 number.I probably went to church more on a Sunday than most other people do here. An early morning service most times, then Matins, Sunday school and then Evensong. I was head choir boy, my brother was in the choir as was my father, my mother played the organ. They were both members of 2 or 3 church social groups, I was in the church scouts and my mother produced and delivered the church magazine. My parents were married there as was my brother and both parents and paternal granparents were buried there. The family's social life revolved around the church.
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When I was around 13 I started confirmation classes which would have enabled me to take communion. It was then that I realised that people were taking all the stories I knew about the bible seriously. I had assumed that, to a certain degree, it was just something that we all went along with and most of it was allegorical. A metaphor for living a good life. But I was now expected to accept it all as being factually true? Well, obviously some of it was, but...I started questioning some of it - to myself.
By the time I was 16 I was just going through the motions. My father had just died and one Sunday morning I told my mother I wouldn't be going to church with her. She was very disappointed. And I felt guilty about disappointing her (and still do to a certain extent). But I never went back.
But the people there were the warmest, friendliest people. Salt of the earth. AndI did actually go back there when I was in the UK some years back. Just for old times sake. Relieve some memories. And my daughter wanted to come. See what took such a chunk of her old man's life back in the day. The service was over and there were a few people milling around and I swear, a couple of them recognised me. From over 40 years ago! We chatted and then one of them brought out the chalice that my mother had bought the church in memory of my father. Quite an emotional moment...
So it certainly wasn't the Christians that I knew that turned me away. In fact, they made it a little harder to leave.
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You can believe a wide variety of things in the Anglican tradition. Sounds like you didn't like that particular Anglican church, decided Christianity as a whole was not for you based on that one church, and they threw out the baby with the bathwater. Very common.
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I thought a lot of the church. As I explained, the people were wonderful. Even after decades away I was still warmly welcomed and treated like family. If someone was in the area and wanted to attend a service then I couldn't recommend it more.
It wasn't the church that I rejected. It was religion.
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There is an odd correlation between actual holiness and feelings of sinfulness. Less holy people are often unbothered by feelings of being sinful. Holy people are often quite aware of their own sinfulness. It’s not a smooth linear thing, but a real thing.
I raise this point because my experience is that holy people tend to be less holier than thou and far less judgmental because they have a gripping sense of their own sins.
So the goal is for God to get you hungry to be holy. Saved and then sanctified. Being judgmental isn’t part of that.
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Hmmm. OK. I intuited the conflict between evolution and creation not from Catholic sources but from evangelicals I was surrounded by.
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When I said that I realised everyone took it literally I was thinking of the virgin birth, miracles, the resurrection, the trinity etc. To be honest, I'm not sure how many in the church might have thought that the flood was real or Adam and Eve were really the first two people. But it wasn't taught as such. If you think about what Catholics are taught then it'll map pretty closely to the Church of England.
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Wow, going to church a lot in a week is too much for me. Hey, you were a teenager (as most teens enjoy to rebel a bit), so I forgive you for leaving church in your teens, especially after your dad passed away. About taking Bible passages seriously, I mainly take the New Testament seriously, while the Old Testament does not apply as much in 2024, though all scripture does apply whether directly or indirectly. Over 40% of the Bible is narrative, according to The Bible Project. There are a lot of different writing styles in the Bible, so it can get confusing. To be honest, that is one of the reasons why I have installed artificial intelligence onto my computer: To help me understand the Bible more. Of course, I'll tell you when I use AI.I probably went to church more on a Sunday than most other people do here. An early morning service most times, then Matins, Sunday school and then Evensong. I was head choir boy, my brother was in the choir as was my father, my mother played the organ. They were both members of 2 or 3 church social groups, I was in the church scouts and my mother produced and delivered the church magazine. My parents were married there as was my brother and both parents and paternal granparents were buried there. The family's social life revolved around the church.
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When I was around 13 I started confirmation classes which would have enabled me to take communion. It was then that I realised that people were taking all the stories I knew about the bible seriously. I had assumed that, to a certain degree, it was just something that we all went along with and most of it was allegorical. A metaphor for living a good life. But I was now expected to accept it all as being factually true? Well, obviously some of it was, but...I started questioning some of it - to myself.
By the time I was 16 I was just going through the motions. My father had just died and one Sunday morning I told my mother I wouldn't be going to church with her. She was very disappointed. And I felt guilty about disappointing her (and still do to a certain extent). But I never went back.
But the people there were the warmest, friendliest people. Salt of the earth. AndI did actually go back there when I was in the UK some years back. Just for old times sake. Relieve some memories. And my daughter wanted to come. See what took such a chunk of her old man's life back in the day. The service was over and there were a few people milling around and I swear, a couple of them recognised me. From over 40 years ago! We chatted and then one of them brought out the chalice that my mother had bought the church in memory of my father. Quite an emotional moment...
So it certainly wasn't the Christians that I knew that turned me away. In fact, they made it a little harder to leave.
The fact that you went back to church when you resided in the UK means that God was trying to call you. If you need a Christian friend here who is not judgemental for the most part (yes, I did judge the Olympics), you have my back and my support. For instance, there are verses that speak to how we must take care of the environment. In fact, the Church of England supports renewable energy.
By the way, as your profile says you are from Bondi, AU, there is a church in your city that is Anglican. The Anglicans are a more moderate group of Christians, and are the denomination most similar to Catholicism.
You will like church, I promise. The Catholic church that I go to also discusses environmental stewardship in prayer, while the Catholic church that my parents go to have installed photovoltaics on top of the Catholic school. Remember, not all Christians are climate deniers.Church of England - Green Energy:
Renewable energy | The Church of England
Renewable energy installations are more and more common and affordable. But it’s important to choose the right one for your building and community use.
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Thanks for checking us out!! We are a growing and active church in the Bondi area of Sydney. We are an Evangelical church. We have midweek programs for all ages and various Sunday services across our various locations. We look forward to meeting you soon. #Bondichurch #BondiAnglican...
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43% of the Bible is narrative:
Biblical Literary Styles Bible Intro
To better understand the Bible, we have to first learn to recognize the different literary styles used by the biblical authors.
Church in my city goes solar:
Blessed Sacrament school installs new solar panels, prioritizes sustainable energy
Blessed Sacrament Catholic School held a ribbon cutting ceremony on Sunday for their brand new solar panel array.
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Yeah, the technical term for this is known as contrition (Isaiah 6:5, 66:2 and Luke 18:10-14 discuss this matter). I have started to realize my own sins, and my struggles more recently, since praying about this, and going to confession more.
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What does it mean to be contrite? What is contrition? What is a broken and contrite heart?
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That seems to be an excuse that's popular: "someone at a church/ affiliated with a church/ did something to me; therefore I will have nothing to do with any church whatsoever"
I was saved 6 years into my 30 year first marriage; my wife would give me a story about how "someone said something at church when she was a teenager", and that's why she won't ever go to church with me. It took an oncologist 23 years later, telling her she had months to live, before she ever made peace with God.
I've experienced/ witnessed bad things at church before, but it's never made me question or want to leave my walk with Christ. As Spurgeon said Jesus needs to be "the subject, and the teacher", otherwise, more bad experiences abound.
Although I was baptized and catechized in the Lutheran church as a child, I was saved at age 27 in 1988 through the ministry of Christian (terrestrial) radio - another technology that's becoming "old fashioned".
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I probably went to church more on a Sunday than most other people do here. An early morning service most times, then Matins, Sunday school and then Evensong. I was head choir boy, my brother was in the choir as was my father, my mother played the organ. They were both members of 2 or 3 church social groups, I was in the church scouts and my mother produced and delivered the church magazine. My parents were married there as was my brother and both parents and paternal granparents were buried there. The family's social life revolved around the church.
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When I was around 13 I started confirmation classes which would have enabled me to take communion. It was then that I realised that people were taking all the stories I knew about the bible seriously. I had assumed that, to a certain degree, it was just something that we all went along with and most of it was allegorical. A metaphor for living a good life. But I was now expected to accept it all as being factually true? Well, obviously some of it was, but...I started questioning some of it - to myself.
By the time I was 16 I was just going through the motions. My father had just died and one Sunday morning I told my mother I wouldn't be going to church with her. She was very disappointed. And I felt guilty about disappointing her (and still do to a certain extent). But I never went back.
But the people there were the warmest, friendliest people. Salt of the earth. AndI did actually go back there when I was in the UK some years back. Just for old times sake. Relieve some memories. And my daughter wanted to come. See what took such a chunk of her old man's life back in the day. The service was over and there were a few people milling around and I swear, a couple of them recognised me. From over 40 years ago! We chatted and then one of them brought out the chalice that my mother had bought the church in memory of my father. Quite an emotional moment...
So it certainly wasn't the Christians that I knew that turned me away. In fact, they made it a little harder to leave.
, I bet it was an emotional moment .kind of sad.
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Well, Christians believe in the Trinity, and it is in the Apostles' and Nicene Creeds. Some Christians believe the flood was localized to a part of the Middle East. The Church of England does seem so close to Catholicism, and that is what I like about the Anglicans so much.
About miracles, they are rare, but have been documented. My favorite Psalm discusses how science can be used to examine God's works (creation) and miracles.
Psalm 111:2 (ESV & NRSV-CE): "Great are the works of the Lord, studied by all who delight in them."
There are rare instances where bread at Catholic churches turn into physical flesh and blood, known as a Eucharistic miracle. But for most times, the bread does not turn into physical flesh or blood from our perspective, but instead transforms into flesh and blood invisibly, known as transubstantiation. I did not believe in transubstantiation, until learning about Eucharistic miracles in late 2021 or early 2022. Eucharistic miracles have been studied by scientists, and in all of the confirmed miracles, the blood was type AB. In other Eucharistic miracles, the Catholic church has dismissed some, as red fungus sometimes grows on old bread. So, rigorous scientific testing is used to confirm these miracles.
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Hello folks. What is your favorite Psalm? Mine is Psalm 111:2, which talks about analyzing God's creation, and his works. Psalms are beautiful, and sound pretty in the KJV, even though I prefer more modern translations such as NKJV, NIV, NRSV-CE and ESV for other books of the Bible. Psalm...
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