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Schools giving kids sex changes without parental knowledge

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It was more than once and not 'off the cuff'. It was a blatant lie. Fear-mongering is a better word.
So you actually actually think that "Your kid goes to school and comes home a few days later with an operation" was literally meant to literally be taken literally? Yes or no?
 
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So you actually actually think that "Your kid goes to school and comes home a few days later with an operation" was literally meant to literally be taken literally? Yes or no?
... What? That's not English, could you reword that so we can understand?
 
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Too many literally for it to grammatically make any sense.
This summer I spent some time around 6th graders and heard how they talk. It would make sense to them, so I thought it was appropriate for this thread.
 
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So you actually actually think that "Your kid goes to school and comes home a few days later with an operation" was literally meant to literally be taken literally? Yes or no?
Who knows with Trump. A candidate and past president should be able to give a more professional and accurate speech. I think he just pulls things out of the air or reads too many conspiracy theories that are short on facts.
 
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Who knows with Trump. A candidate and past president should be able to give a more professional and accurate speech. I think he just pulls things out of the air or reads too many conspiracy theories that are short on facts.
I asked you what you think.
 
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Cool.
We keep hearing stories of schools keeping information from parents. Maybe those reports are false.
There are some things that children tell the counselor or nurse that are not shared with parents at least for some time. For instance, complaints of abuse. In that case we tell Child Protective Services or the police (or both) depending on the complaint. The child may confide that they feel they are the opposite sex. There has to be some confidentiality for the child to feel safe sharing. Eventually, the information is shared when the child is ready - and in the few cases I was aware of, the parents had already figured it out.

But no medicine such as puberty blockers or procedures are done. Where on earth would the school get the money for it? The school is not a hospital - there is no lab or exray or surgical suite or ability to sterilize anything. It is crazy talk.
 
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How is this any different from this?
One was making a point using satire. They other was a direct lie. I thought it was obvious myself.

Why do you think Trump did lie? Do you think people would actually believe something as ridiculous as that? Do you think that he hopes that they will?
 
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There are some things that children tell the counselor or nurse that are not shared with parents at least for some time. For instance, complaints of abuse. In that case we tell Child Protective Services or the police (or both) depending on the complaint. The child may confide that they feel they are the opposite sex. There has to be some confidentiality for the child to feel safe sharing. Eventually, the information is shared when the child is ready - and in the few cases I was aware of, the parents had already figured it out.

But no medicine such as puberty blockers or procedures are done. Where on earth would the school get the money for it? The school is not a hospital - there is no lab or exray or surgical suite or ability to sterilize anything. It is crazy talk.
 
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That article says nothing about medicines. In one case parents didn’t want children to be taught about gender identity. In another it was social transition, presumably name and pronouns.

Personally, I’d like a different t solution. Kids should feel safe I. Telling their parents about themselves but there are people posting in CF that I wouldn’t feel safe in talking to if I were their child. Putting a school in the middle of that probably isn’t going to help, unless it’s gone far enough to call CPS, assuming red states have such a thing. My parents were clear that they expected tgat I’d end up with ideas they disagreed with, and that was fine. That doesn’t seem universal.
 
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From heritage.org.
I don't believe them. Legally schools need parent permission for any medication. There is NO capiblity to do surgical procedures.

Listening to a child discuss his or her feelings is just that. The counselor or principal cannot authorize name changes or sex changes and it is up to the parents who should be talking to their doctor and should have a psychiatrist or clinical psychologist involved. It is a very long process.
 
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Yes, because you sounded pretty certain in post #19.
I think he is ignorant enough to believe that stuff or is knowingly lying for his purposes. IMHO he does that a lot.
 
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Why do you beat your wife?
Because I'm a lot better at backgammon than she is.
Then why do you think he said it? Trust me, he's not the satirical type. Here he is again saying that he will revoke Biden's school policies on gender, 'which includes...ultimately performing surgery on minors'.


Does he think that's true? Does he know it's a lie but wants his supporters to think it is?
 
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I think he is ignorant enough to believe that stuff or is knowingly lying for his purposes. IMHO he does that a lot.
Those are two completely different things, and you originally said it was a blatant lie. Are you just denying the obvious truth and fishing around for something to hate-monger about?
 
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Because I'm a lot better at backgammon than she is.
Ha ha. :)
Then why do you think he said it? Trust me, he's not the satirical type. Here he is again saying that he will revoke Biden's school policies on gender, 'which includes...ultimately performing surgery on minors'.


Does he think that's true? Does he know it's a lie but wants his supporters to think it is?
Yeah he thinks that's true because it is true. (I'm talking about your video, not the comment mentioned in the OP.)
 
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Those are two completely different things, and you originally said it was a blatant lie. Are you just denying the obvious truth and fishing around for something to hate-monger about?
I don't know what he actually believes or not - but I do know it is a lie.

That is not fishing. Trump makes disliking him easy. The name-calling, the history of fraudulent behavior, the tone deaf comments, the self-grandizement, etc......there is a lot to dislike.
 
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