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Per. JD Vance: Trump will veto a federal law prohibiting abortions

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This who said there must be some punishment for women having abortions in 2016. How the turns table.
Very odd how “reproductive rights” are just a code name for abortion.

Why not just speak plainly?
 
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Who is going to fight whom and what army?
Multiple ideologically unconnected platoon sized groups of disaffected deplorable Meal Team 6ers from the Sunset towns and flyover states vs the largest, most technically advance armed force on the planet.
 
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What I plainly mean is that in contrast to his current position Mr Trump was all for making abortion illegal.
Ok. Well….I’m not surprised by Trump’s inconsistencies.
 
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That would make for some interesting dilemmas. If a woman wants or needs to expel the preterm fetus from her womb, should it be automatically given to an artificial womb? Whose responsibility, whose ward, would it become if related people can't afford the cost?

Or, equally likely, future generation will look on forced pregnancies in similar ways we look upon slavery.

More evil or more compassionate? Surely to die is not evil and the ending of suffering is not evil. Don't Christians supposedly believe that when a person dies, the blessed ones, at least, get to be with their Savior? How is that evil? Understand, I'm not talking about extermination upon retirement, but a compassionate alleviation of suffering at the end of life.
God can end a life if He wants. I do not think that he needs any help. There are no forced pregnancies. If you have sex there is an expectation that it might happen. So not forced ever. The problem is many want a doever for their consequences. As to payment of children. The parents should be responsible. They can adopt out if they want.
 
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God can end a life if He wants. I do not think that he needs any help. There are no forced pregnancies. If you have sex there is an expectation that it might happen. So not forced ever. The problem is many want a doever for their consequences. As to payment of children. The parents should be responsible. They can adopt out if they want.
Exactly! Unfortunately some people think you can have sex without consequences.

That’s not possible.
 
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Exactly! Unfortunately some people think you can have sex without consequences.

That’s not possible.
Yes, with other consequences like betrayal, depression, abuse, guilt, STD's including some cancers etc. The biggest consequence to a Christian is fellowship and service to God.
 
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Multiple ideologically unconnected platoon sized groups of disaffected deplorable Meal Team 6ers from the Sunset towns and flyover states vs the largest, most technically advance armed force on the planet.
Each with 18 ARs, 87 hand guns, 13 shotguns, 2 .30-06s, and that one grenade Crazy Billy stole from the Army when he left the National Guard after 5 years as a PFC. I see.
 
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Unfortunately some people think you can have sex without consequences.
I've had sex without consequences all my life. It's actually quite easy.
 
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What about rape where the poor woman or girl is forced to carry the pregnancy to term?
That is a possibility as well as a defect that can take the mothers life. I would leave that with the courts.
 
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If a woman wants or needs to expel the preterm fetus from her womb, should it be automatically given to an artificial womb?
It would be difficult to transfer an unborn child to an artificial womb when it is torn into pieces and sucked out with a vacuum.
 
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It would be difficult to transfer an unborn child to an artificial womb when it is torn into pieces and sucked out with a vacuum.
Details, details.
 
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