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Media Thinks Kamala Harris Sounded More Like a Centrist, at the DNC

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This is a year, in which Many American citizens want the 2 big political
parties to head toward the Moderate Middle of American sympathies.
In that sense, this is an unprecendented year.

The sense of American voters, that the far left and the far right do not
represent where they are, is not new. There has been discontent for a number
of years. But 2024 is UNPRECEDENTED, because the Democratic National
Convention specifically recognized this American trend, and invited
REPUBLICAN speakers to speak at the Democratic National Convention.

Kamala Harris and Walz are making strong appeals to the Moderate
Middle of American voters. And a number of Republican politicians
and mayors, are finding the Harris ticket to be more conservative
than the current Trump ticket.

We don't need the far left Communist and Socialist forgetters of history,
who think that Communism would really work, if someone finally "got it right".
We don't need far right conspiracy theorists and radical cessessionists
who are all gunned up and looking for someone to lawlessly lynch, in
order to "make everything right" again. That's just violent lawlessness.

We need a Moderate Middle American president, who is demonstrably
law abiding, and who upholds the American institutions of democracy,
and who will focus on the real needs of the moderate middle of
American citizens.

And, as this Fox News article recognizes, this is the message that
Kamala Harris is putting out, and the media is getting it.
 
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This is a year, in which Many American citizens want the 2 big political
parties to head toward the Moderate Middle of American sympathies.
In that sense, this is an unprecendented year.

The sense of American voters, that the far left and the far right do not
represent where they are, is not new. There has been discontent for a number
of years. But 2024 is UNPRECEDENTED, because the Democratic National
Convention specifically recognized this American trend, and invited
REPUBLICAN speakers to speak at the Democratic National Convention.

Kamala Harris and Walz are making strong appeals to the Moderate
Middle of American voters. And a number of Republican politicians
and mayors, are finding the Harris ticket to be more conservative
than the current Trump ticket.

We don't need the far left Communist and Socialist forgetters of history,
who think that Communism would really work, if someone finally "got it right".
We don't need far right conspiracy theorists and radical cessessionists
who are all gunned up and looking for someone to lawlessly lynch, in
order to "make everything right" again. That's just violent lawlessness.

We need a Moderate Middle American president, who is demonstrably
law abiding, and who upholds the American institutions of democracy,
and who will focus on the real needs of the moderate middle of
American citizens.

And, as this Fox News article recognizes, this is the message that
Kamala Harris is putting out, and the media is getting it.
They will lie and say anything to win. It is disgusting...
 
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Harris basically is a centrist though.

The closest we've had to having a leftist running for the highest office was Bernie Sanders. The Democratic mainstream, however, is essentially center-right.

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Harris basically is a centrist though.

The closest we've had to having a leftist running for the highest office was Bernie Sanders. The Democratic mainstream, however, is essentially center-right.
The Democratic mainstream might be center-left, but there's no way it's center-right. As for Harris, she may be speaking like a centrist now (as is smart for any presidential candidate at this time in an election year). But remember she was found to be the furthest left Senator in 2019, even further left than Bernie Sanders.

https://web.archive.org/web/2020081...members/kamala_harris/412678/report-card/2019
 
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This is a year, in which Many American citizens want the 2 big political
parties to head toward the Moderate Middle of American sympathies.
In that sense, this is an unprecendented year.

The sense of American voters, that the far left and the far right do not
represent where they are, is not new. There has been discontent for a number
of years. But 2024 is UNPRECEDENTED, because the Democratic National
Convention specifically recognized this American trend, and invited
REPUBLICAN speakers to speak at the Democratic National Convention.

Kamala Harris and Walz are making strong appeals to the Moderate
Middle of American voters. And a number of Republican politicians
and mayors, are finding the Harris ticket to be more conservative
than the current Trump ticket.

We don't need the far left Communist and Socialist forgetters of history,
who think that Communism would really work, if someone finally "got it right".
We don't need far right conspiracy theorists and radical cessessionists
who are all gunned up and looking for someone to lawlessly lynch, in
order to "make everything right" again. That's just violent lawlessness.

We need a Moderate Middle American president, who is demonstrably
law abiding, and who upholds the American institutions of democracy,
and who will focus on the real needs of the moderate middle of
American citizens.

And, as this Fox News article recognizes, this is the message that
Kamala Harris is putting out, and the media is getting it.
You must be watching a different media because from what I am hearing its about how Harris and Waltz and the Dems as a whole are gas lighting everyone pretending they are moderates or pretending Harris is suddenly a moderate when she has been and still is a radical Leftist.

What are we to believe the Karmala who has a history of radicalism up until 5 minutes ago or the fake narratives trying to recreate history and Harris.

This idea about moderation is purely a soundbite, a platitude that like you said the parties have cottoned onto to win votes, win the middle. But we all know as we have had the last few years of the Lefts ideology and its divisive consequences for society happening everywhere. We have Harris's own words and she can't erase them.

She says her values have not changed but this is a deceptive tactic. We all share the same values which are nobel. But its how we deal with it that is the problem. Harris and the Left take a radical approach to these problems because they have a different ideological belief about how those problems are caused and how we should order society. Its all based on identity, race, gender and sex rather than reality.

So for example illegal immigrants are not illegal but victims that need help and understanding. So building walls and harsh treatment in the name of law and order goes against their fundemental beliefs. How can Harris say she will stop the illegals when she believes they are doing nothing illegal and the ICE officers are like the KKK.

Its not in the radical Lefts DNA to treat what they say are victims of the bad mean white system. They will continue to be slack on law and order, immigration and continue to cause division and chaos with their Woke, DEI, CRT, PC and Identity politics ideology. Otherwise they are going against all the Woke ideologues and activists they have pandered too for years.
 
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So, the MAGA folk are upset because Trump seemed to be backing away from anti-abortion absolutism on the Florida ballot and the same MAGA folk are upset because Harris seems to be backing away from some far left positions.
 
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So, the MAGA folk are upset because Trump seemed to be backing away from anti-abortion absolutism on the Florida ballot and the same MAGA folk are upset because Harris seems to be backing away from some far left positions.
Trump has nothing to do with the Florida law, aside from his having just one vote. His position is that abortion is up to the states.

It seems odd to me that I haven't heard far left people complaining about Kamala abandoning them (except from, I guess, the pro-Hamas people). I suppose they realize that if she had continued with her prior stated views, she would never get elected.
 
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It seems odd to me that I haven't heard far left people complaining about Kamala abandoning them (except from, I guess, the pro-Hamas people). I suppose they realize that if she had continued with her prior stated views, she would never get elected.
Why does "let's get our candidate elected" seem like strange behavior to you? At this point she's echoing the views that got Biden elected...maybe she learned something when she actually got some Oval Office data.

It's fairly common for candidates to roll back their campaign views after they get into office and see the actual data they'd just been guessing about before. Kennedy ran on the "missile gap" with the USSR, then got into office and discovered that the actual missile gap was on the Soviet side. I remember when Jimmy Carter ran with the promise of pulling US troops out of South Korea; when he got into office, we showed him the actual data (I worked on that package), and that promise disappeared quickly.
 
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Why does "let's get our candidate elected" seem like strange behavior to you? At this point she's echoing the views that got Biden elected...maybe she learned something when she actually got some Oval Office data.
I don't agree with that assessment. Right now she's basically running against Trump and Biden, because she can't fully embrace the Biden/Harris record. She's running on a "we need change" campaign. And moving toward the center is classic American political strategy, the problem with Harris is she is now going against numerous things and stances she has taken in the past.

But regarding moving toward the center, that's basically the same thing Trump is doing with his six week abortion comments.
 
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And moving toward the center is classic American political strategy, the problem with Harris is she is now going against numerous things and stances she has taken in the past.
She should. If you thought she was too extreme before she was in the Executive Branch, you should be mollified that actual experience has tempered her stances.

The only people who have something against that are extremists on both ends.
 
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She should. If you thought she was too extreme before she was in the Executive Branch, you should be mollified that actual experience has tempered her stances.

The only people who have something against that are extremists on both ends.
The issue is that we don't trust her, that she will say whatever she needs to say to get elected. Besides which, there are other things we don't like. She's supports the plan to rehaul the Supreme Court (which admittedly, is not likely to happen anyway). She says she wants border security, but her idea of that is for the "bipartisan" bill that keeps a flow of illegals coming in.
 
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The issue is that we don't trust her, that she will say whatever she needs to say to get elected. Besides which, there are other things we don't like. She's supports the plan to rehaul the Supreme Court (which admittedly, is not likely to happen anyway). She says she wants border security, but her idea of that is for the "bipartisan" bill that keeps a flow of illegals coming in.
Since you don't trust her anyway, would it help if she said something she didn't need to say to get elected?
 
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Since you don't trust her anyway, would it help if she said something she didn't need to say to get elected?
Probably not, since I'm not likely to vote for her anyway. I do appreciate that you express yourself in such a civil manner. With the way politics are so toxic these days, a lot of left leaning people tend to be very insulting, hateful, and disrespectful when speaking with someone who disagrees with them. And I'm sure a lot of people on the right are that way as well. I've never thought that was necessary. I like that we can both calmly state our opinions without things getting heated or resorting to name calling.
 
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Probably not, since I'm not likely to vote for her anyway. I do appreciate that you express yourself in such a civil manner. With the way politics are so toxic these days, a lot of left leaning people tend to be very insulting, hateful, and disrespectful when speaking with someone who disagrees with them. And I'm sure a lot of people on the right are that way as well. I've never thought that was necessary. I like that we can both calmly state our opinions without things getting heated or resorting to name calling.
To be honest, I believe both candidates intend to usher in administrations that will gravely damage the nation over the next four years.

I'm just making a choice of which will I hope might not damage the nation beyond recovery.
 
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Harris basically is a centrist though.

The closest we've had to having a leftist running for the highest office was Bernie Sanders. The Democratic mainstream, however, is essentially center-right.

-CryptoLutheran
Not even a little bit. She's told us who she is in video over the years. She is a far leftist and "her values haven't changed" as she asserted in a non-answer in the only interview she has bothered to do while expecting the American people to just elect her without her being challenged by the hard questions.
 
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The Democratic mainstream might be center-left, but there's no way it's center-right.

Surely he meant center-left. If not, that is an interesting claim.
 
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Surely he meant center-left. If not, that is an interesting claim.
It could have been a mistake, but I assumed he meant center-right. I have heard this claim before from Democrats. I don't understand where they get it, but I've heard it before.
 
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To be honest, I believe both candidates intend to usher in administrations that will gravely damage the nation over the next four years.
Entirely possible, if not probable. Like you, I have to vote for what I think are the lesser of two evils. We just don't agree on what that choice is.
 
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