anti-Catholic or not?

[Clare73]

One is His Body, the other are the Member of His Body. It's not too hard to understand now is it

The members of the body of Christ are the body of Christ.

 

[concretecamper]

The members of the body of Christ are the body of Christ.

Unless they are cut off. Read the scriptures.

 

[Servus]

I've been crystal clear.

Perhaps to your own satisfaction, but not to my understanding. You do want me to understand exactly what you mean don't you?

 

[Clare73]

Unless they are cut off. Read the scriptures.

I have. . .Christ does not lose any of his own (Jn 10:27-30, 6:39).

 

[Servus]

One is His Body, the other are the Member of His Body. It's not too hard to understand now is it

Yes it is, without having your frame of reference and your understanding of what the difference is supposed to be.

 

[concretecamper]

I have. . .Christ does not lose any of his own (Jn 10:27-30, 6:39).

John 15:6 If any one abide not in me, he shall be cast forth as a branch and shall wither: and they shall gather him up and cast him into the fire: and he burneth.

 

[concretecamper]

I have. . .Christ does not lose any of his own (Jn 10:27-30, 6:39).

You get no argument from me that His sheep hear His voice. But that's not what we are discussing is it.

 

[Sunflower39]

I'm guessing you've not been to South America.

No, I haven’t been to South America, but even if Mary is venerated excessively there, it doesn’t equate to worship. There’s a clear distinction between the two. I personally have no issue with venerating Mary; she deserves recognition and respect for her role. We venerate her in my Anglican church, though not as intensely as in Catholic churches, and that level is appropriate for me. However, it seems that many people here confuse veneration with worship, which are actually different practices.

 

[Mark Quayle]

No, I haven’t been to South America, but even if Mary is venerated excessively there, it doesn’t equate to worship. There’s a clear distinction between the two. I personally have no issue with venerating Mary; she deserves recognition and respect for her role. We venerate her in my Anglican church, though not as intensely as in Catholic churches, and that level is appropriate for me. However, it seems that many people here confuse veneration with worship, which are actually different practices.

Do they pray to her?

 

[Clare73]

John 15:6 If any one abide not in me, he shall be cast forth as a branch and shall wither: and they shall gather him up and cast him into the fire: and he burneth.

There are both wheat and tares in the kingdom.
Dead branches not abiding in the vine are the same as tares, counterfeit faith that does not persevere, and will be burned.

You get no argument from me that His sheep hear His voice. But that's not what we are discussing is it.

Wheat and tares. . .sheep and goats. . .living vines and dead vines. . .parabolic teaching of the gospels.

But all members of the body (feet, hands, ears, etc.) are the body.
There are no counterfeits in the body of Christ in the doctrine of the NT epistles.

 

[concretecamper]

There are both wheat and tares in the kingdom.
Dead branches not abiding in the vine are the same as tares, counterfeit faith that does not persevere, and will be burned.

Wheat and tares. . .sheep and goats. . .living vines and dead vines. . .parabolic teaching of the gospels.

But all members of the body (feet, hands, ears, etc.) are the body.
There are no counterfeits in the body of Christ in the doctrine of the NT epistles.

Who to believe? A self proclaimed Bible expert's fallible interpretation or A Father of the Church, Scripture, and close to 2,000 years of His Church's teaching. Hmmm, sorry you're OUT

If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. - John 15:6

No longer enjoying the benefit of the husbandman's hand. And is withered. That is, if he had anything of the root, he loses it; if any grace, he is stripped of this, and is bereft of the help and life which proceed from it. And what the end? He is cast into the fire. Not such he who abides with Him. Then He shows what it is to abide, and says,

- John Chrysostom (404 AD)

 

[Clare73]

You get no argument from me that His sheep hear His voice. But that's not what we are discussing is it.

Wheat and tares. . .sheep and goats. . .living vines and dead vines. . .

Who to believe? A self proclaimed Bible expert or A Father of the Church? Hmmm, sorry you're OUT

I vote for the text of Scritpure, understood in the light of all the NT.

If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. - John 15:6

No longer enjoying the benefit of the husbandman's hand. And is withered. That is, if he had anything of the root, he loses it; if any grace, he is stripped of this, and is bereft of the help and life which proceed from it. And what the end? He is cast into the fire. Not such he who abides with Him. Then He shows what it is to abide, and says,

The parables show his nature, he is a tare, a goat, whose faith has no root (Lk 8:13).

 

[RileyG]

Do they pray to her?

Some high Church Anglicans and Anglo-Catholics recite the rosary and the Angelus, yes.

 

[RileyG]

What constitutes valid baptism?

Water Baptism "In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit."

Must be Trinitarian.

 

[RileyG]

I'm guessing you've not been to South America.

No one worships Mary. No one.

Do they offer the sacrifice of the Mass to her? No.

To claim the RCC or EO or OO worship Mary is COMPLETELY false.

 

[RileyG]

And we are here to learn how to love one another. To be united not divided.

I agree. Which is why I pray daily for Christian unity.

Blessings

 

[concretecamper]

The parables show his nature, he is a tare, a goat, whose faith has no root (Lk 8:13).

According to a fallible self proclaimed scripture scholar. Next

 

[Servus]

Water Baptism "In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit."

Must be Trinitarian.

Is Water Baptism "In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." considered valid if it's performed by a Protestant pastor?

 

[Sunflower39]

Do they pray to her?

We seek the intercession of Mary and the saints.

 

[Servus]

According to a fallible self proclaimed scripture scholar. Next

That was rebuff.