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I’m voting for Trump because he’s a white man.

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For giving you the reasons why you should not vote for someone? Hey, you knew those already. Whether you think they are valid is up to you. And you know that as well.

I don't believe the old lady who claimed he raped her.

I'll just say it....seems more unlikely than likely.
 
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Gee, thanks.

I wonder what they do in Australia when they have a vote between a guy who punches babies, a tax cheat, a virtuous bigot, a woman who doesn't cover her mouth when she coughs and keeps spreading new forms of covid, and a Christian who only believes in 2 genders....

Cuz they have to vote for someone.
 
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Guys, skin color does not matter.
I am not so sure skin color has anything to do with it. I have a niece that had blond hair and blue eyes, yet she considers herself to be black. Under the one drop rule if they are one eighth that still counts.
 
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Characteristic number 5 is not, in my opinion, going to do a leader any good when facing against leaders that oppose the USA and want to dominate the world.

Neither is 4 or 2 in that situation.
 
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I am not so sure skin color has anything to do with it. I have a niece that had blond hair and blue eyes, yet she considers herself to be black. Under the one drop rule if they are one eighth that still counts.

I don't know why some people on the left have adopted the KKK's rule for blackness.
 
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I am not so sure skin color has anything to do with it. I have a niece that had blond hair and blue eyes, yet she considers herself to be black. Under the one drop rule if they are one eighth that still counts.
Bro, no one cares about the color of your niece. or if she is 1/8 black.
 
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I have heard about him, as he did some stuff around the turn of the millennium that changed the GOP from being almost the pinnacle bastions of American society and politeness to being just the same personality as the current Democratic party (both sides bicker nowadays). Something about Newt's personality complex changed the political sphere in this country, along with massive corporations and elites for the worst.

Now, we need to figure out which guy made the Democrats become sour. Whomever started popularizing the pro-choice movement and the LGTV movement ruined the Democrats for me. Both parties (left and right) started souring in the 1990s, and became nearly totally rancid in the early 2010s.

Newt Gingrich, at worst, was the first politician to take advantage of TV entering the legislature in the form of CSPAN.

If you want to understand where the "nastiness" came from....look up what the "uniparty" is then look at political attitudes towards politicians from 2000 on....you'll see increasing
apathy towards candidates who nobody believed were doing anything....

Now some people would have you believe that the idea that both parties essentially serve the same corporate interests is a silly notion with zero evidence. I'd point out that 200 establishment Republicans endorsed the Democratic Party candidate. I'd also point out that the past two Democratic Party candidates are clearly not actually in charge of anything.

If you think it would make more sense that Trump would be completely aligned with Wall Street....I understand that.....but in reality, that's a little bit too obvious for Wall Street. People might do something if they directly bought and owned a candidate who came from their ranks. It's apparently less obvious when they push out a candidate who was clearly failing and throw in one who is weak willed and willing to do as they say.

Or you can just look at how much of their own money each candidate spends on their own election campaign.

Once you understand that....the media attacks, the legal attacks, and the corporate wokeness all make a lot more sense.
 
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This is a hypothetical scenario.

In this hypothetical scenario Biden would have to be black. There's no way a white woman would have gotten his choice of VP in a world where he's also white. The whiteness of the 2020 Dem primary candidates was a real complaint in multiple legacy media sources that cater to the left.

It goes without saying....if Biden was black, Obama would have had to be white lol. I know that sounds a little nuts but you need to remember....the left cares about the optics of race a lot. They didn't put a twerking female rapper on stage with Harris because they want to appeal to your desire for a "classy" candidate.
 
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Obama jailed whistleblowers for trying to expose CIA torture programs and attacked civilians with drones. Colonel west calls him a war criminal as does amnesty international where they refer to the Bush/Obama doctrine

I wonder where Amnesty International has their HQ? Do you think it's Switzerland? I'd guess Switzerland.

I've also questioned where "Doctors Without Borders" is located... and if that location has borders.
 
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In this hypothetical scenario Biden would have to be black. There's no way a white woman would have gotten his choice of VP in a world where he's also white. The whiteness of the 2020 Dem primary candidates was a real complaint in multiple legacy media sources that cater to the left.

It goes without saying....if Biden was black, Obama would have had to be white lol. I know that sounds a little nuts but you need to remember....the left cares about the optics of race a lot. They didn't put a twerking female rapper on stage with Harris because they want to appeal to your desire for a "classy" candidate.
The twerking was totally demonic. I know you are an atheist, but scripture says there will be a great falling away and practice of immoral actions (2 Thessalonians 2, 2 Timothy 3:1-4). It is happening now in 2024, with a lot of woke stuff being spread. If this is the not the time to get into Christ, I am not sure what is. The Bible predicted this woke stuff, and predicted that there will be also a lot of wars and false teachers as well. Heck, scripture even predicted the modern tech revolution.

2 Timothy 3:1-4 (NIV): "But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God—"

And yes, the left sadly focuses too much on race, and every time the left brings up race in 2024, it makes me cringe. Ahh, makes me glad to be voting 3rd party this year.
 
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I am not so sure skin color has anything to do with it.

I'm pretty sure skin color is like 99% of it.

It's such a big part of it, black people have their own terms for skin color that aren't typically used by anyone else....like "redbone" or "high yellow".


I have a niece that had blond hair and blue eyes, yet she considers herself to be black. Under the one drop rule if they are one eighth that still counts.

I haven't looked them up in awhile....but I'm pretty sure the "1 drop rule" refers to having even 1 black ancestor (which is funny because we all have at least 1 black ancestor on a far enough timeline) whereas the 1/8th rule probably requires a black person to be one of your parents, grandparents, great grandparents, or great great grandparents.
 
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Well clearly her niece cares....right?
His niece. Diamond72 is a guy. :) But yeah, I sense a small amount of racism in his niece, but I am not here to judge. Anyways, it is getting late here (plus in a few hours, I will try to get through another few more episodes of Deep Space 9), but please mull over the verses/prophecies, and trust in God, as he can protect us from this world, and gave us tools to discern what is good and not good.
 
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I wonder where Amnesty International has their HQ? Do you think it's Switzerland? I'd guess Switzerland.

I've also questioned where "Doctors Without Borders" is located... and if that location has borders.
Amnesty is in London, UK apparently. For Doctors without Borders, the HQ is in Paris, France. And yes, France has borders, with 8 countries. ;)

List of French borders
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Amnesty HQ info:

Doctors without Borders info:
 
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The twerking was totally demonic.
It's a little crude but I don't know if I'd go as far as demonic.


I know you are an atheist, but scripture says there will be a great falling away and practice of immoral actions (2 Thessalonians 2, 2 Timothy 3:1-4).

I'd be more impressed if it predicted a great "falling towards" moral actions.

Saying that we're heading to a time of increasing disregard of moral norms is pretty much a constant thing happening somewhere, regardless of time period.



It is happening now in 2024, with a lot of woke stuff being spread. If this is the not the time to get into Christ, I am not sure what is.

I can't just flip it on Alex....though I consider your concern genuine.

It would be like me asking for you to just quit the faith for a bit. You can't really do it....right?

I've never been a part of any religion....organized or otherwise. I was introduced to Christianity by a neighbor at 10-11 and didn't really get it. That's when I realized I didn't believe in God but didn't even know that there was a term for that lol. As a result of not being indoctrinated....I don't think I have that "religious impulse" a lot of atheists who left the faith for some reason have in them.


The Bible predicted this woke stuff, and predicted that there will be also a lot of wars and false teachers as well. Heck, scripture even predicted the modern tech revolution.

What would you cite as evidence that the Bible predicted woke?

I'm just curious....I won't argue or anything.

2 Timothy 3:1-4 (NIV): "But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God—"

And yes, the left sadly focuses too much on race, and every time the left brings up race in 2024, it makes me cringe. Ahh, makes me glad to be voting 3rd party this year.

I can see how you're seeing that as a description of the here and now.

Tell you what....if Jesus comes around my door asking if I want to learn about him, I'll give him the same 10 minutes I give the 7th day adventists.
 
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I'm pretty sure skin color is like 99% of it.
My wife is Filipino and people tell her they want her color. Not to light, not to dark. The funny thing is no one has ever guessed my son is asian. They usually guess mexican or black because of his hair.
 
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It's a little crude but I don't know if I'd go as far as demonic.




I'd be more impressed if it predicted a great "falling towards" moral actions.

Saying that we're heading to a time of increasing disregard of moral norms is pretty much a constant thing happening somewhere, regardless of time period.





I can't just flip it on Alex....though I consider your concern genuine.

It would be like me asking for you to just quit the faith for a bit. You can't really do it....right?

I've never been a part of any religion....organized or otherwise. I was introduced to Christianity by a neighbor at 10-11 and didn't really get it. That's when I realized I didn't believe in God but didn't even know that there was a term for that lol. As a result of not being indoctrinated....I don't think I have that "religious impulse" a lot of atheists who left the faith for some reason have in them.




What would you cite as evidence that the Bible predicted woke?

I'm just curious....I won't argue or anything.



I can see how you're seeing that as a description of the here and now.

Tell you what....if Jesus comes around my door asking if I want to learn about him, I'll give him the same 10 minutes I give the 7th day adventists.
I hear your points about Christianity, and yes, someone such as a neighbor should not have introduced you to Christianity when you were in junior high, as a lot of junior high students can be a little, how can I put it, they like to go their own way and buck the norms. Trust me, I was like that as well, but at age 12 to just a few years ago in my late teens ;). My parents raised me Christian, without forcing it down my throat, and now my faith is stronger than ever.

From a Christian brother to an atheist, I care deeply about you, cos we both have very similar ideas on how our world is getting worse, and that the Bible describes that the current days were predicted nearly 2000 years ago or more. Plus as an aside, I believe in an old Earth that is billions of years old and trust in science as well (Psalm 111:2), so not all Christians believe in a young Earth. Christians come in many flavors, denominations, and individual interpretations of certain parts of Old Testament scriptures and Revelation. The OT and Revelation are pretty complicated, so that is why I stick to the New Testament mostly.

I. Life Anecdote:
Bro, in just 3-5 years of my life, we went from a society that had less woke stuff, to now an overload of woke stuff. Yes, there were woke moments in the past, but it seems like everything is going woke. Already ruined my favorite TV franchises such as Doctor Who and Star Trek. You can check my Lust Month (June) rant here about which franchises got ruined in 2023-2024: Lust Month is finally over

II. Later Days (1 Tim 4)
This verse from 1 Timothy 4 below reminds me of what happened at the 2024 Olympics/opening ceremony. Yes, I am pro-environment up to an extent (my A/C smart thermostat is set to 79 F during the day, 74 at night, and I use LED lighting), but the Olympics went overboard. For instance, Paris Olympic officials attempted to offer more plant-based foods in an effort to reduce the Games' carbon footprint. While there is a variety of cuisine available to accommodate the tastes of different countries — and an abundance of baguettes in France — vegan meals aren't in line with what the athletes prefer to eat while competing.

Also, in 2024, it is harder to get married for some people, as a lot of people prefer to be single, though the first part of the verse could refer to Gnosticism, a heretical denomination that was common for the first three centuries AD. I am not a theologian, so I can not explain Gnosticism.

The verse:
1 Timothy 4:1-6: "The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer. If you point these things out to the brothers and sisters, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, nourished on the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed."

III. Signs of the Times (Matt 24):
Finally, Jesus says in Matthew 24, some signs of the times. There will be more wars, nations rise against nations, more droughts, and more quakes. This is completely normal, and is expected due to the advancements in military technology. Before 1914, there was no war that was ever fought on a global scale, as we did not the technology to facilitate the logistics of sending and communicating with troops in other locations in a short period of time. Radio telegraphy played a role in allowing the war to be fought internationally, according to the Smithsonian.

WWI tech explained + bonus art material from the Smithsonian:
More quakes are happening due to fracking: Earthquakes in Texas doubled in 2021. Scientists cite years of oil companies injecting sludgy water underground.
WWII was the second global war, and where multiple nations rose against each other, same with WWI: World War II - Wikipedia
More famines due to global warming, including in Madagascar in 2021 (article contains images of starving children, viewer discretion advised): Madagascar on the brink of climate change-induced famine

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Matthew 24:4-8 (NIV): "Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains."
 
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His niece. Diamond72 is a guy. :)

Gotcha.



But yeah, I sense a small amount of racism in his niece, but I am not here to judge.

Well....

Is that racism? I'd agree that it may be...because whenever we consider white people who think race is an important part of their identity...we inevitably think of racists regardless of whether we're talking about the conservative right arguing for segregation....or the modern left arguing for segregation and racial quotas.

But for other races it's often seen as perfectly normal and not at all racist to be proud of your race and believe your racial identity is important.

Anyways, it is getting late here (plus in a few hours, I will try to get through another few more episodes of Deep Space 9), but please mull over the verses/prophecies, and trust in God, as he can protect us from this world, and gave us tools to discern what is good and not good.

I'll mull it over @AlexB23
 
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