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Elon Musk begins reinstating banned Twitter accounts, no decision on Donald Trump yet

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First he fired people based on the amount of code they'd written. There are some obvious problems with this approach. For example, more efficient code is shorter code, so on a like for like basis, a better coder would write less code. Another problem would be that, if a person's job was to correct code that was written by someone else, they wouldn't have written much code at all.

Not surprisingly, he tried to re-hire some of them when he realised he'd made a novice, schoolboy mistake.

He then gave the remaining staff an option; work much harder for the same pay or he'll pay them to leave.

Not surprisingly, most of the remaining staff chose to take the payment.

The least a person could expect of their employer is that they know what they are doing. He has demonstrated that he doesn't. Why should anyone working anywhere be expected to put up with their employer being an incompetent idiot?
If his decision was purely based on "lines of code written", then I would agree, that's not a great way to interpret developer worth.
 
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How is that strawman? lol it hardly fits the definition. (The typical straw man argument creates the illusion of having refuted or defeated an opponent's proposition through the covert replacement of it with a different proposition) I mean if anyone could be accused of that it would be your comment - which had nothing to do with what I was pointing out.

"Is nine engineers is going to lead to the end of SpaceX? Doubt it."

Daisy Day did not assert that it was going to lead to the end of SpaceX. Therefore, your post set up a strawman.
 
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Just hours after saying he had not yet decided on whether to lift the Twitter ban on Donald Trump, the social network's new owner Elon Musk asked users to vote on reinstating the former president to the platform.

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"Reinstate former President Trump," the billionaire Twitter owner posted, with a chance to vote either yes or no.

At 01:45 GMT, 59.6 percent of the nearly two million responses were in favor of a return of the former president, who was banned from Twitter for his role in last year's attack on the US Capitol by a mob seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election.

There was no indication that the mercurial boss of Space-X and Tesla would adhere to the results of the ad hoc poll.

But on Friday, he also posted a Latin adage suggesting that the decision would be up to Twitter users: "Vox Populi, Vox Dei" ("The voice of the people is the voice of God").

I thought it funny that someone noted that Musk should have quoted the full text of that sentence, “And those people should not be listened to who keep saying the voice of the people is the voice of God, since the riotousness of the crowd is always close to insanity.” (a letter from Alcuin of York to Charlemagne). For those interested in the Latin, "Nec audiendi qui solent dicere, Vox populi, vox Dei, quum tumultuositas vulgi semper insaniae proxima sit." ;)
 
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"Is nine engineers is going to lead to the end of SpaceX? Doubt it."

Daisy Day did not assert that it was going to lead to the end of SpaceX. Therefore, your post set up a strawman.
She didn't directly address the post either.

Therefore, it was a strawman.
 
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How is that strawman? lol it hardly fits the definition. (The typical straw man argument creates the illusion of having refuted or defeated an opponent's proposition through the covert replacement of it with a different proposition) I mean if anyone could be accused of that it would be your comment - which had nothing to do with what I was pointing out.
No, it fits the description because your arguing that firing nine engineers would not be the end of Spacex implies, wrongly, that I had said it would.

I was pointing out people are underestimating the man, and his resources to get the job done in restructuring. Then you link to some article over him firing 9 employees at SpaceX. The article hardly refutes what I mentioned.
I wasn't so much refudiating what you said as pointing out that Musk fires people for personal slights.

Firing people from his other ventures due to a strange open letter - and people complaining to management about over receiving the open letter and that impact on them - has nothing to do with him being able to bring competent people over from those same ventures to help with Twitter's restructuring.
He is running out of competent people.
Also saying that he could just pull people from his other ventures seems to say that the skill sets for Spacex and Tesla would be the same as for Twitter. Sure, they are all kind of techy, but otherwise, I don't think so.

She didn't directly address the post either.

Therefore, it was a strawman.
No, red herring maybe, but not a straw man.
 
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Elon Musk, owner and CEO of Twitter, has begun reinstating accounts that were previously subject to lifetime bans for breaking the platform's rules.

Announced Friday, the first reinstated accounts belong to author Jordan Peterson, comedian Kathy Griffin, and conservative parody outlet The Babylon Bee.

"The new Twitter policy is freedom of speech, but not freedom to reach" the public, explained Elon Musk on his Twitter account.


"Negative or hateful tweets will be demoted and demonetized, so there will be no back-to-back ads or other revenue for Twitter. You won't find these tweets unless you specifically look for them, which is no different than the rest of the internet," he added.



Thoughts?


I would say that there should also be a push to reinstate some accounts that were banned for "vaccine hesitancy".

As much as I go hard on the actual anti-vaxxers, there were some who got that label, and were banned, for topics surrounding aspects of it that NBC and Washington Post are running articles about now that everyone has let their "covid politics" guard down a little.
My thoughts are "why not?" Who cares who is on Twitter or not expressing their political views? If you don't like it, don't read what that person writes.

There are very, very few literal "anti-vaxers". Statistics demonstrate about 95% of children have received all standard childhood vaccines. That is a misnomer when applied inappropriately to people who objected to lack of long term data or other particulars on this particular Covid jab.
 
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My thoughts are "why not?" Who cares who is on Twitter or not expressing their political views? If you don't like it, don't read what that person writes.

There are very, very few literal "anti-vaxers". Statistics demonstrate about 95% of children have received all standard childhood vaccines. That is a misnomer when applied inappropriately to people who objected to lack of long term data or other particulars on this particular Covid jab.
CDC statistics say that children in the US are from 80.4% (DTaP) to 92.5% (polio) vaccinated. Do you prefer “vaccine hesitant”?
 
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CDC statistics say that children in the US are from 80.4% (DTaP) to 92.5% (polio) vaccinated. Do you prefer “vaccine hesitant”?
There has been a little temporary blip in customary practice due to the lockdowns and other factors of the past 2 years or so. Prior to 2020 - and shortly- it will be back to standard uptake for standard childhood vaccines with long term data.

Not an issue. The reality is that there are very few "anti-vaxers".

"The drop has not been precipitous: About 94% of kindergarteners had their required vaccines during the 2020-2021 school year, a drop of about one percentage point and just below the 95% vaccination target, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said in a new report."
 
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There has been a little temporary blip in customary practice due to the lockdowns and other factors of the past 2 years or so. Prior to 2020 - and shortly- it will be back to standard uptake for standard childhood vaccines with long term data.

Not an issue. The reality is that there are very few "anti-vaxers".

"The drop has not been precipitous: About 94% of kindergarteners had their required vaccines during the 2020-2021 school year, a drop of about one percentage point and just below the 95% vaccination target, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said in a new report."
I hope you are right. What is the level necessary for herd immunity?
 
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Trump has been reinstated. He hasn't tweeted yet. Previously he indicated he would remain loyal to the Truth. Truth Social that is.
Loyalty? Trump? Heh.

‘Mean Tweets’ Make Sunday Comeback, But Is Trump’s Return to Musk Platform Permanent?

Donald Trump’s absence from X (formerly Twitter) throughout the last three-and-a-half years has left many of the former president’s most passionate supporters longing for a return to so-called “mean tweets” over the policies of the Biden-Harris administration.

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I stopped using Twitter when Musk took over. Anytime I miss it, I’ll remind myself that Trump is back to posting on it.
He actually rarely posts on Twitter/X.

Free speech is too important to give up the site, in my view, but then I took an oath to uphold the Constitution.
 
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He actually rarely posts on Twitter/X.

Free speech is too important to give up the site, in my view, but then I took an oath to uphold the Constitution.
Free speech exists on the site, with or without Trump being banned or not. Just when he was banned and Musk wasn’t in charge, the number of skijowees and trolls was far less.
 
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I love what Musk is doing regarding Twitter. Back to free speech baby.
He, ironically, reinstated Kathy Griffin, too.

[Yes, I know this comment is over 2 years old]
 
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