• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

Walz to join Harris for interview. Why? Because she needs a babysitter.

Hammster

Carpe Chaos
Site Supporter
Apr 5, 2007
144,404
27,062
57
New Jerusalem
Visit site
✟1,963,038.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Reformed
Marital Status
Married
She's burying Trump. I think it's clear she can speak "off script." This thread should be removed.

That’s cute that you think it wasn’t scripted.
 
Upvote 0

BPPLEE

Well-Known Member
Apr 13, 2022
16,742
7,798
61
Montgomery
✟268,372.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Sometimes we project what we are instead of seeing what is the case. Not always, but sometimes.
She said her values had not changed. Does that mean she still wants to ban fracking, eliminate gas powered vehicles and eliminate private health insurance?
 
Upvote 0

public hermit

social troglodyte
Site Supporter
Aug 20, 2019
12,669
13,517
East Coast
✟1,063,154.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
She said her values had not changed. Does that mean she still wants to ban fracking, eliminate gas powered vehicles and eliminate private health insurance?

She wants those ideal things but understands it's a process. It's a perfectly moderate position.
 
Upvote 0

childeye 2

Well-Known Member
Aug 18, 2018
6,209
3,436
67
Denver CO
✟251,385.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
It's a 180 degree turn
FWIW I think @public hermit is correct, it's the center of a left/right dichotomy, (the centrist or moderate view). A left/right dichotomy contains two subjective yet equally valid views, with the objective view at the center. For example, in this case one side could be for natural gas production through fracking, while the other side could be against destroying drinking water due to contamination of the water table when fracking. Good lawmakers can articulate both points of view so that they can find solutions, while a propagandist will play one end against the other.
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

Fantine

Dona Quixote
Site Supporter
Jun 11, 2005
41,912
16,945
Fort Smith
✟1,458,091.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Democrat
So superficial stuff. Thankfully I’m not like Walz. I would never support the vicious murder of the unborn.
You mean the anguished choices real live women sometimes make, often for serious, life-saving reasons? These "vicious murderers" whose sin is believing differently from you about when personhood begins--living in a country with no legal definition supporting either their position--or yours?
A country where even Christian denominations hold different views?
This vituperative hatred of those whose sin is believing differently from you troubles my soul.
I am encouraged by the Christians I know who focus on positive action instead of damaging rhetoric. Who use their time and talent to work for the common good, like Walz.
My life experience has shown me that people who struggle with infertility often hold the most anger at women who have abortions, that they would make this decision heedless of the infertile families' suffering. That Tim Walz could feel this compassion despite his own family struggle speaks highly of him.
 
Upvote 0

Fantine

Dona Quixote
Site Supporter
Jun 11, 2005
41,912
16,945
Fort Smith
✟1,458,091.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Democrat
Thanks to environmental regulations, fracking is safer today.
Our state has large lithium deposits--needed for electric batteries for cars, solar storage, etc. Several companies are getting ready to develop their lands--but they have already done research and developed ways to extract lithium from brine economically and safely, returning the brine to the earth.
I don't like fracking, but recognize the need and support safe technical improvements.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Hank77
Upvote 0