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'Evil,' ripping off babies' legs, $1K for liver: 3 shocking scenes in CMP’s undercover videos

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Abortionist Deborah Nucatola, senior director of medical services for the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, explains how the organization sells aborted baby body parts such as the heart lungs, liver, limbs and brain to a fetal tissue wholesaler in Los Angeles, California, on July 25, 2014.
Abortionist Deborah Nucatola, senior director of medical services for the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, explains how the organization sells aborted baby body parts such as the heart lungs, liver, limbs and brain to a fetal tissue wholesaler in Los Angeles, California, on July 25, 2014. | Screenshot/Center for Medical Progress

Recently unsealed footage captured by the pro-life watchdog group Center for Medical Progress shows a Planned Parenthood abortionist demonstrating how she might “pull off a leg or two” when performing abortions to avoid violating federal law against partial-birth abortion.

CMP asserts that their recorded conversations with abortionists prove that Planned Parenthood violated the federal Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act and sold aborted babies' body parts for profit.

The pro-life investigative group released a series of undercover videos in 2015 that show Planned Parenthood abortionists describing how they might alter their methods of performing abortions to obtain intact organs, limbs and tissue from aborted babies. The group’s founder, David Daleiden, and fellow investigator Sandra Merritt are two of the individuals heard talking with the abortionists and clinic directors seen in the undercover videos.

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Abortionist Deborah Nucatola, senior director of medical services for the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, explains how the organization sells aborted baby body parts such as the heart lungs, liver, limbs and brain to a fetal tissue wholesaler in Los Angeles, California, on July 25, 2014.
Abortionist Deborah Nucatola, senior director of medical services for the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, explains how the organization sells aborted baby body parts such as the heart lungs, liver, limbs and brain to a fetal tissue wholesaler in Los Angeles, California, on July 25, 2014. | Screenshot/Center for Medical Progress

Recently unsealed footage captured by the pro-life watchdog group Center for Medical Progress shows a Planned Parenthood abortionist demonstrating how she might “pull off a leg or two” when performing abortions to avoid violating federal law against partial-birth abortion.

CMP asserts that their recorded conversations with abortionists prove that Planned Parenthood violated the federal Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act and sold aborted babies' body parts for profit.

The pro-life investigative group released a series of undercover videos in 2015 that show Planned Parenthood abortionists describing how they might alter their methods of performing abortions to obtain intact organs, limbs and tissue from aborted babies. The group’s founder, David Daleiden, and fellow investigator Sandra Merritt are two of the individuals heard talking with the abortionists and clinic directors seen in the undercover videos.

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Baby deletion is demonic stuff.

This is a video that discusses the stuff in the article.

Kap Chatfield discusses demonic activity (age rating 16+ due to heavy topic):
 
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Baby deletion is demonic stuff.

This is a video that discusses the stuff in the article.

Kap Chatfield discusses demonic activity (age rating 16+ due to heavy topic):

Baby deletion is a far too sanitized word for what this really is. We need to call it what it really is. It maiming and murdering children in the womb for profit.
 
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Baby deletion is a far too sanitized word for what this really is. We need to call it what it really is. It maiming and murdering children in the womb for profit.
Yeah, that is what it is. This is total demonic stuff, all in the name of money (mammon).
 
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In my opinion, somehow, the "pro-choice" Christians supporting a woman's right to have an abortion will find a way to either ignore, dismiss, or discredit the facts about the abortion industry.
 
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In my opinion, somehow, the "pro-choice" Christians supporting a woman's right to have an abortion will find a way to either ignore, dismiss, or discredit the facts about the abortion industry.
Yep, this is one of the reasons why I will be voting 3rd party. One can not be pro-choice and be a faithful Christian. Jesus may still forgive a pro-choice Christian, but that would leave a bitter taste in His mouth. However, if a pro-choice Christian does an abortion, and does not repent, then, bad things will happen for said pro-choice Christian.

As Christians, we must be pro-life, from womb to tomb. No abortions, no euthanasia, no death penalty (instead, life in prison without parole would be better).
 
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In my opinion, somehow, the "pro-choice" Christians supporting a woman's right to have an abortion will find a way to either ignore, dismiss, or discredit the facts about the abortion industry.
Of course.:praying:
 
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To me, it is inconceivable that a Christian would be willing to support the abortion industry. Thankfully, I am grateful that the Lord Jesus Christ has love, mercy, grace, and forgiveness that is infinitely superior than anyone else in all of the history of the universe.
 
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To me, it is inconceivable that a Christian would be willing to support the abortion industry. Thankfully, I am grateful that the Lord Jesus Christ has love, mercy, grace, and forgiveness that is infinitely superior than anyone else in all of the history of the universe.
Amen to that. It is good how Jesus has great levels of mercy. If I was Jesus, I would have returned already, and waged war on humanity (especially with the violent and woke types), but luckily, I am not Jesus. God is in control.
 
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Once again, as this thread is dark, I will have to leave this one. I pray that progressive Christians get back into scripture, and read these four verses, and avoid the demonic practice of baby slaughtering. Maybe, I should update my devotional to include Jeremiah 7:31, or make a future devotional about the decline of society.

Psalm 139:13-16 (NIV): "For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be."

Jeremiah 1:5 (NIV): "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations."

Exodus 20:13 (NIV): "You shall not murder."

Jeremiah 7:31 (NKJV): "And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, which I did not command, nor did it come into My heart."

Protecting the Unborn Devotional:
 
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Yep, this is one of the reasons why I will be voting 3rd party. One can not be pro-choice and be a faithful Christian. Jesus may still forgive a pro-choice Christian, but that would leave a bitter taste in His mouth. However, if a pro-choice Christian does an abortion, and does not repent, then, bad things will happen for said pro-choice Christian.

As Christians, we must be pro-life, from womb to tomb. No abortions, no euthanasia, no death penalty (instead, life in prison without parole would be better).
I like that: pro life from womb to tomb. I’m taking that phrase!
 
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I like that: pro life from womb to tomb. I’m taking that phrase!
Thank you. :) Now, if a baby naturally dies inside the womb without any intervention, there must be a legal construct to allow doctors to remove an already dead baby. But yes, abortion is bad.
 
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Thank you. :) Now, if a baby naturally dies inside the womb without any intervention, there must be a legal construct to allow doctors to remove an already dead baby. But yes, abortion is bad.
Agreed 100%!!!
 
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Agreed 100%!!!
Amen to that. :) We need a sensible ban on medically induced abortions, but allow procedures in case a natural miscarriage occurs. Hopefully, we can stop baby slaughter. Thankfully, the rate of abortions have been declining since the 1980s, but we still have a long way of getting it to zero.
 
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