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UK will extradite Americans for social media posts

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Should you be free to actively encourage people to burn down buildings containing children? In the USA are you allowed to promote the murder of people through arson?
Well, no one should have the freedoms to do those things. So that stuff being said is jailable. But what if one wants to say that the Olympic ceremony is woke? What if the law says one can not criticize anything anymore?
 
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Should someone have their life ruined and even potentially face legal consequences just because they said something dumb and just didn't think about how it came across?
It's is stupendously easy not to say accidently racist things by not saying anything that is racist.

I really don't see the issue.
 
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Well, no one should have the freedoms to do those things. So that stuff being said is jailable. But what if one wants to say that the Olympic ceremony is woke? What if the law says one can not criticize anything anymore?
That is not the law. The UK is not doing that. Feel free to describe someone or an event as woke.
 
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It's when the British threatens to impose UK laws on US citizens outside its borders that it becomes every American's business.
In what world is this happening? A few years ago an American national ran over and killed an Englishman because she was driving on the wrong side of the road. She then fled back to the USA neatly avoiding the local authorities because of diplomatic immunity.


The UK asked for her return but America said no and that was that; for murder.
 
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In what world is this happening? A few years ago an American national ran over and killed an Englishman because she was driving on the wrong side of the road. She then fled back to the USA neatly avoiding the local authorities because of diplomatic immunity.


The UK asked for her return but America said no and that was that; for murder.
Not murder, as no intent. Still absolutely wrong and should have faced justice, it's not as if a UK jury and judge would not have been sympathetic to inexperience in driving on different side of the road.
 
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And who says they going to stop there, the list can get bigger and who put a stop in what they ban?.
The fact that it's been like that for ages. That's what laws are for. Woe unto the party that tries to engage slippery slope protocols.
 
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But what if one wants to say that the Olympic ceremony is woke?
Again, that does not attack a protected class or incite violence.
 
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America has form for not handing people over when asked.
That is true, for sure. But it's not the standard to say that laws don't apply to Americans when in other countries. Even in that scenario, it's not that the law didn't apply to her, it's that she flouted it.
 
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Should you be free to actively encourage people to burn down buildings containing children? In the USA are you allowed to promote the murder of people through arson?

No....to the second question.
 
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It's is stupendously easy not to say accidently racist things by not saying anything that is racist.

I really don't see the issue.

I've seen at least a half dozen racist things stated by a poster I don't really think is racist in just the past 48 hours on this site.
 
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I've seen at least a half dozen racist things stated by a poster I don't really think is racist in just the past 48 hours on this site.
I mean, if it’s talking like a duck… At some point you have to consider it is, in fact, a duck.
 
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The fact that it's been like that for ages.

Has it? The earliest case I recall involved a guy getting his dog to do a little nazi salute online.

I'd be surprised if it were over 10-12 years ago. How long have these laws been on the books?
 
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I mean, if it’s talking like a duck… At some point you have to consider it is, in fact, a duck.

I don't think he realized what he said was racist. I also don't report people.

I could be wrong...but that's my honest opinion.
 
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Not murder, as no intent. Still absolutely wrong and should have faced justice, it's not as if a UK jury and judge would not have been sympathetic to inexperience in driving on different side of the road.

I tend to think of diplomatic immunity serving a sort of purpose that shouldn't be cast aside easily.
 
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Yes, I support the far right in England. I'm allowed to!
You’re allowed to support whomever and whatever action you want, and we are all allowed to make a mental note of that support and arrive at some very definite conclusions about it.
 
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I don't think he realized what he said was racist. I also don't report people.

I could be wrong...but that's my honest opinion.
Again, at some point we have to say if it walks and talks like a duck, it’s likely a duck. The fact it thinks it’s an eagle is fun trivia, but doesn’t change that it is a duck.
 
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