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I don’t care if they practice their religion, though I would hope that they’d convert to Christianity. However, our laws should be based on God’s word, and not various forms of paganism. I would think you’d agree.
You realize they think they’re right and you’re wrong, right? And by the “because I said so” standard you’re applying, that means they are just as right and legitimate in legislating their belief over yours.
 
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OK, so you can't be more specific because YOU have no concept of how things work so you project your own ignorance of a subject onto others.....you could have just said that and we would both be just fine.
You asked what I meant. I explained it. If you want to invent a narrative, cool, whatever you have to do to get by.

However, I promise you I’ve know and forgotten more on the subject than you will ever even know. Not that it matters… Hysterical yelling about morality is revered more than knowledge by some and there’s nothing I can do about that.
 
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Well that must be the secret. I’m in my mid 40s and I need a hysterectomy but the process to get it has taken well over a year and a half. Apparently if I’m 13, they just hand them out to everybody. No screening. No nothing. An idle wish and, blam, out comes the uterus.
Hmmmmm....you should join the Army. I had a vasectomy at 22 at Gorgas Hospital, Panama Canal Zone. I agreed to it, so did my wife and it was done. Knowing all the red tape of the military and the quickness of my procedure forgive me for saying but I don't believe your story......at all.
 
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Um…..okay.
Ok what? You’re the one alleging they’re just handing them out to any person who wants one, not me. I’m actually familiar with the process so I know better.
 
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Hmmmmm....you should join the Army. I had a vasectomy at 22 at Gorgas Hospital, Panama Canal Zone. I agreed to it, so did my wife and it was done. Knowing all the red tape of the military and the quickness of my procedure forgive me for saying but I don't believe your story......at all.
Yes yes, we’ve already established you don’t believe a lot of factual things. No need to keep reminding us because I promise you, we all know you are hype to tell people how you think they should go about getting treatments.
 
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You asked what I meant. I explained it. If you want to invent a narrative, cool, whatever you have to do to get by.

However, I promise you I’ve know and forgotten more on the subject than you will ever even know. Not that it matters… Hysterical yelling about morality is revered more than knowledge by some and there’s nothing I can do about that.
It seems you have a very high opinion of your knowledge and a very low opinion of the same for those who oppose your position based on "I promise you I’ve know and forgotten more on the subject than you will ever even know' comment. Since you don't know me or really anything about me, that demonstrates a true arrogance towards those who oppose your positions. It is very difficult to have a rational discussion with those who are this arrogant. Maybe you should take a break from the thread and breath deeply for a while before beginning again.
 
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It seems you have a very high opinion of your knowledge and a very low opinion of the same for those who oppose your position based on "I promise you I’ve know and forgotten more on the subject than you will ever even know' comment. Since you don't know me or really anything about me, that demonstrates a true arrogance towards those who oppose your positions. It is very difficult to have a rational discussion with those who are this arrogant. Maybe you should take a break from the thread and breath deeply for a while before beginning again.
I love the irony of being called arrogant and not knowing anything about you exactly 3 posts down from arrogantly telling me you know better than I do the process to getting my hysterectomy, lol.

No need to be threatened, darling, it’s ok that you don’t know as much about something as somebody else. If the stress of it bothers you, perhaps you should take the time to learn about whatever it is before trying to debate it.
 
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Yes yes, we’ve already established you don’t believe a lot of factual things. No need to keep reminding us because I promise you, we all know you are hype to tell people how you think they should go about getting treatments.
Well, after 25+ years working in Interventional Cardiology and Electrophysiology it is something of a learned habit. But a year and half (?) for a 40yo to get a hysterectomy?.....You either need a new doctor or a new medical insurance company (since they are the ones who really pull the strings (control the billing) in the civilian medical arena).
 
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You realize they think they’re right and you’re wrong, right? And by the “because I said so” standard you’re applying, that means they are just as right and legitimate in legislating their belief over yours.
That’s not my standard. I hope it’s not yours, either.
 
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Ok what? You’re the one alleging they’re just handing them out to any person who wants one, not me. I’m actually familiar with the process so I know better.
I get it now. You aren’t following my argument. Whew. That’s a load off.
 
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Well that must be the secret. I’m in my mid 40s and I need a hysterectomy but the process to get it has taken well over a year and a half. Apparently if I’m 13, they just hand them out to everybody. No screening. No nothing. An idle wish and, blam, out comes the uterus.
Hysterectomy? Uterus?

Unless I'm confusing you with someone else or my memory is very faulty, I thought you stated you were transgendered?

Not that it's my business anyway.
 
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If his parents and his doctors think it's the right thing for him, then it's not mutilation any more than it would be if they took his appendix out.
No. They have a life to make bad decisions. A child doesn't need sex reassignment surgery. Period.

Let's protect the CHILDREN.
 
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I thought personal attacks were against the rules here.

But in any case, I guess that's all that remains if there's no coherent rational way to address the topic.
There is no "personal attacks." He is only simply stating his Christian beliefs.

Good grief.
 
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Honestly, I fail to comprehend how Christians can support the so-called gender affirming care being pushed by the progressive left and the transgenderism agenda.
Yup. The whole transgender ideology is straight from Satan. It only means to confuse and cause division.
 
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Well, after 25+ years working in Interventional Cardiology and Electrophysiology it is something of a learned habit. But a year and half (?) for a 40yo to get a hysterectomy?.....You either need a new doctor or a new medical insurance company (since they are the ones who really pull the strings (control the billing) in the civilian medical arena).
Well, I tried to go to my cardiologist to get my hysterectomy, but he pointed out that isn’t his field and I should probably go to a surgical OB/GYN. Frustrating, since I had just gone to the GYN to for my ventricular tachycardia and wouldn’t you know, they couldn’t help me with with that.

That whole “oh I work in (insert medical field here)” thing may work on some people, but it doesn’t work on me. Working in a hospital, in a unit, or in a specialty doesn’t make you a doctor, a specialist in all medical treatments, an expert in another non-patient’s medical treatment, or an I disputable authority on how all treatments for all things go.

So forgive me for not thinking “guy who carefully worded he worked in a highly specific unrelated specialty in an unknown capacity, but got a vasectomy several decades ago in another country” is in any way even remotely equipped to explain to me what my hysterectomy experience must really be. LoL!
 
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That’s not my standard. I hope it’s not yours, either.
Clearly it is, though, since your answer is “but Christianity is right” and not answering the question I asked.
 
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Hysterectomy? Uterus?

Unless I'm confusing you with someone else or my memory is very faulty, I thought you stated you were transgendered?

Not that it's my business anyway.
Maybe I am. I’m waiting for the people of this board to tell me, apparently.
 
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Maybe I am. I’m waiting for the people of this board to tell me, apparently.
It doesn't matter, anyway. I'm not telling you anything, other than my memory must be very faulty, apparently. lol

I hope I didn't make you uncomfortable.

Take care.
 
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It doesn't matter, anyway. I'm not telling you anything, other than my memory must be very faulty, apparently. lol

I hope I didn't make you uncomfortable.

Take care.
Not you, some other poster is currently explaining to me what my process to getting a hysterectomy has really been like. I was under the impression it has taken more than a year, but he says otherwise.

I was always under the impression I was a woman, but people tell me new things about myself on here all the time. It’s hard keeping straight what I think I am from what I’m told I am.
 
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