Harris has picked the socialism-praising governor of Minnesota as her running mate to create the most far-left ticket in American history

[dogs4thewin]

The passage that outlines all of that is in “Bible: The Extended Edition.”

nope it is actually in the Bible regular Edition.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

nope it is actually in the Bible regular Edition.

Sure it is pal. LoL

 

[dogs4thewin]

Sure it is pal. LoL

What does the Bible say about those who do not work? When Jesus healed the man on the mat what did He say "pick your mat up and walk He did not say keep lying here and allow people to provide for you. Again, there is a BIG difference in cannot and will not if someone ( for whatever reason) CANNOT provide for themselves/family then we are to help them and provide for them if someone WILL not and is making no effort to change then we owe them nothing, but to share the gospel with them.

 

[Hammster]

Good thing there’s no hyperbole the thread title. Otherwise people would just think you’re being hysterical.

Okay.

 

[wing2000]

Noted.
Which of Gov Walz's policies make him a leftist from your perspective?

Did you read the article, or did you just read the title?

...like I wrote, it's your argument to make.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Kamala Harris has picked the socialism-praising governor of Minnesota as her running mate to create the most far-left ticket in American history

Here we go, kids:

notthebee.com

As a Christian, all I can say is “Yikes!”

He's not "praising socialism." He's talking about propaganda or political messaging. What his statement means is "what one person calls 'socialism', another would call 'neighborliness'."

This article has a transcript of the entire section:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/08/06/gov_tim_walz_on_white_dudes_for_kamala_harris_call_one_persons_socialism_is_another_persons_neighborliness.html

No it doesn’t. Governments don’t produce income. That money comes from people.

Governments absolutely do produce income. Central banks create the money in the first place, which then gets loaned out through the economy. Governments then hire people to provide goods and services (in the US, it's mostly services) that generate value.

 

[Hammster]

...like I wrote, it's your argument to make.

It’s made in the article. Thats why I posted it.

 

[Hans Blaster]

So then do you not realize that since all scripture came from God and Jesus is God then Jesus did impire it to be written? In other words, just because it is not written in red does not mean it did not come from Jesus.

Those are claims. I see no reason to accept them. (Sort of like the claims that Walz is a "leftist".)

To use a secular example suppose that you are my boss and your boss tells you something ( maybe something that needs to get done) you then tell me whatever it is because maybe it is my " wheelhouse" maybe as a supervisor your job is to assign certain tasks to others since you cannot do it all whether the case is. Just because you told me as opposed to the overall boss does not mean that the instruction did not come from the boss.

If I tell you what to do, will you?

 

[Tropical Wilds]

What does the Bible say about those who do not work? When Jesus healed the man on the mat what did He say "pick your mat up and walk He did not say keep lying here and aallow people to provide for you. Again, there is a BIG difference in cannot and will not if someone ( for whatever reason) CANNOT provide for themselves/family then we are to help them and provide for them if someone WILL not and is making no effort to change then we owe them nothing, but to share the gospel with them.

This is where I point out the Bible says whomever is kind to the needy honors God, value others above yourself, if you’re a person who has and shows no pity or drive to help the have nots don’t have the light of God in them, and whomever doesn’t do for the least of people means you’re also not doing for God, or I point out that Mary was in need and it wasn’t the people who turned them away that were honored but the one who found room for them in the manger, or maybe that what we are talking about is taking care of children in schools and others in need who shouldn’t have to starve because you want to teach them a lesson… But you’ll just have a fit, find some other passage that you feel justifies marginalizing people, and round it goes.

I’ll just remember this is another case of a pro-lifer who says “children are important” until they hit school and deserve the basics to be successful in life, the basics every other modern country makes sure they have, at which point we tell them they’re old enough to feel hungry as punishment for not having parents who can provide for them while attending the school the government promises will care for them 7 hours a day, 5 days a week.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Those are claims. I see no reason to accept them. (Sort of like the claims that Walz is a "leftist".)

If I tell you what to do, will you?

If you are my boss and it is not morally wrong or illegal sure. If I were going to leave I would do it right put in a two week notice.

 

[dogs4thewin]

This is where I point out the Bible says whomever is kind to the needy honors God, value others above yourself, if you’re a person who has and shows no pity or drive to help the have nots don’t have the light of God in them, and whomever doesn’t do for the least of people means you’re also not doing for God, or I point out that Mary was in need and it wasn’t the people who turned them away that were honored but the one who found room for them in the manger, or maybe that what we are talking about is taking care of children in schools and others in need who shouldn’t have to starve because you want to teach them a lesson… But you’ll just have a fit, find some other passage that you feel justifies marginalizing people, and round it goes.

I’ll just remember this is another case of a pro-lifer who says “children are important” until they hit school and deserve the basics to be successful in life, the basics every other modern country makes sure they have, at which point we tell them they’re old enough to feel hungry as punishment for not having parents who can provide for them while attending the school the government promises will care for them 7 hours a day, 5 days a week.

Again there is a difference in cannot and will not if you either are needy through no faut of your own OR maybe your choices did put you there, but you are looking to and making an effort to change then sure a hand up is good. If however, you are in group B and are NOT WILLING to put in the effort to change then we owe you NOTHING.

The schools provide an EDUCATION that is what is owed nothing else. It is not a babysitting serveice it is not meant to provide ther other needs ( though as my sister who is a public school teacher will tell you in the time she has worked with children she has spent probably 1,000s out of her pocket to provide supplies and at one point even giving up part of her lunch for a kid whose parents clearly did not realize that people who have just gotten braces on their teeth cannoteat just anything. However, that was her choice S owed him nothing

 

[7thKeeper]

Yes, you did.

I can read what was written in the post you replied to. Your statement would clearly be false.

 

[eleos1954]

Kamala Harris has picked the socialism-praising governor of Minnesota as her running mate to create the most far-left ticket in American history

Here we go, kids:

notthebee.com

As a Christian, all I can say is “Yikes!”

I am surprised ... I really thought it would be Shapiro ... non the less Waltz is just as far left as Harris ... there is a great divide between the two parties. Either one might present their vision for the country .... but people need to know HOW they intend to promote that vision to happen. I find no clear stated policies put forth by the left of the HOW they intend to solve our countries challenges and that's very concerning. It's more popularity based than substance/policy based.

I searched to find something on this and find nothing cohesive (just sound bites) if somebody has a place where stated policies of the left are listed .... please send me the link.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Again there is a difference in cannot and will not if you either are needy through no faut of your own OR maybe your choices did put you there, but you are looking to and making an effort to change then sure a hand up is good. If however, you are in group B and are NOT WILLING to put in the effort to change then we owe you NOTHING.

The schools provide an EDUCATION that is what is owed nothing else. It is not a babysitting serveice it is not meant to provide ther other needs ( though as my sister who is a public school teacher will tell you in the time she has worked with children she has spent probably 1,000s out of her pocket to provide supplies and at one point even giving up part of her lunch for a kid whose parents clearly did not realize that people who have just gotten braces on their teeth cannoteat just anything. However, that was her choice S owed him nothing

As I said, though I think your post unintentionally made a very strong point for merits of a functional education.

 

[7thKeeper]

Kamala Harris has picked the socialism-praising governor of Minnesota as her running mate to create the most far-left ticket in American history

Here we go, kids:

notthebee.com

As a Christian, all I can say is “Yikes!”

By the way, can you provide a direct, non-quote mined, quote where he praises socialism?

 

[Hans Blaster]

If you are my boss and it is not morally wrong or illegal sure. If I were going to leave I would do it right put in a two week notice.

I'm not interested in your hypotheticals.

 

[iluvatar5150]

By the way, can you provide a direct, non-quoted mined, quote where he praises socialism?

If you're interested, I posted an article with the full quote in post 46.

 

[BPPLEE]

So, again, the criticism is simply that he a "leftist"?


And this... is being a "leftist" somehow the antithesis of being a Christian? I'm sure there are a whole group of Christians on this board you could have that discussion with.

There are also Christians that think I'm going to Hell because I go to Church on Sunday,
Just because a group holds a certain belief doesn't necessarily mean they're right

 

[Belk]

Oh look, the calls of "Most extreme!" , "Most left!", have begun. It must be great to just recycle the same accusations election after election. I mean, it is not like we have full blown avowed socialists that run every election. <Roll eyes>

Communist Party USA

Official website of the Communist Party USA, est. 1919.

www.cpusa.org

 

[Hammster]

This is where I point out the Bible says whomever is kind to the needy honors God, value others above yourself, if you’re a person who has and shows no pity or drive to help the have nots don’t have the light of God in them, and whomever doesn’t do for the least of people means you’re also not doing for God, or I point out that Mary was in need and it wasn’t the people who turned them away that were honored but the one who found room for them in the manger, or maybe that what we are talking about is taking care of children in schools and others in need who shouldn’t have to starve because you want to teach them a lesson… But you’ll just have a fit, find some other passage that you feel justifies marginalizing people, and round it goes.

I’ll just remember this is another case of a pro-lifer who says “children are important” until they hit school and deserve the basics to be successful in life, the basics every other modern country makes sure they have, at which point we tell them they’re old enough to feel hungry as punishment for not having parents who can provide for them while attending the school the government promises will care for them 7 hours a day, 5 days a week.

Where do you find the government helping?