2024 Olympic Games: That Pistolero from Turkey

[RDKirk]

The laid-back, unencumbered, older shooter from Turkey who scored silver in the Olympics has inspired hundreds of memes, particularly in the IT community, where he is the hero of "simpler is better." He was defeated only by someone with the latest high-tech resources...but he had defeated all the others who had high-tech devices.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Being Turkish, he naturally likes cats, and some wags are (truthfully) saying that if something happens to his cat, we'll get a 4 movie franchise a la John Wick.

Also, like with Luke Skywalker, there is another (inasmuch as it was a team silver): Though she does at least have a bit more gear with a hat and ear protection.

 

[Offline4Better.]

The laid-back, unencumbered, older shooter from Turkey who scored silver in the Olympics has inspired hundreds of memes, particularly in the IT community, where he is the hero of "simpler is better." He was defeated only by someone with the latest high-tech resources...but he had defeated all the others who had high-tech devices.

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This is funny. All the other folks use tech to aim, while this guy did not. What a talented man.

 

[durangodawood]

Being Turkish, he naturally likes cats, and some wags are (truthfully) saying that if something happens to his cat, we'll get a 4 movie franchise a la John Wick.

Also, like with Luke Skywalker, there is another (inasmuch as it was a team silver): Though she does at least have a bit more gear with a hat and ear protection.

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This guy is wearing ear plugs. Theres nothing cool about blowing off hearing protection.

 

[Offline4Better.]

This guy is wearing ear protection. Theres nothing cool about blowing off hearing protection.

Agreed. Anything above 80-85 dB is unsafe.

Source:

https://hearillinois.com/when-should-you-wear-ear-protection/

 

[ThatRobGuy]

This guy is wearing ear plugs. Theres nothing cool about blowing off hearing protection.

I wonder how much of that is necessity, or just a overly-cautious rule...

They're using air pistols and not real pistols for that, correct? (admittedly, I'm not familiar with the exact model they're using there...but the general feedback I'm reading is that the sound level would be comparable to a suppressed .22lr, which could be comfortably fired without ear protection)

So maybe it's also a case where they where them just to block out any potential noise distractions from the crowd, etc?

 

[durangodawood]

I wonder how much of that is necessity, or just a overly-cautious rule...

They're using air pistols and not real pistols for that, correct? (admittedly, I'm not familiar with the exact model they're using there...but the general feedback I'm reading is that the sound level would be comparable to a suppressed .22lr, which could be comfortably fired without ear protection)

Fired repeatedly?

I wont be upset if it turns out The Olympics® has a blanket hearing protection rule for all shooting sports. People underrate hearing protection and its good to see competitors using it, especially when they look like the cool assassin we all want to be. If they extend the rule to archery, then that would be weird.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Fired repeatedly?

I wont be upset if it turns out The Olympics® has a blanket hearing protection rule for all shooting sports. People underrate hearing protection and its good to see competitors using it, especially when they look like the cool assassin we all want to be. If they extend the rule to archery, then that would be weird.

These folks don't appear to be using any hearing protection (at least not that I can spot in the video)

And the audience that's sitting feet behind them aren't wearing any hearing protection either (whereas they would definitely need to if there was a real gun being fired less than 20 feet away from them)

 

[Offline4Better.]

I wonder how much of that is necessity, or just a overly-cautious rule...

They're using air pistols and not real pistols for that, correct? (admittedly, I'm not familiar with the exact model they're using there...but the general feedback I'm reading is that the sound level would be comparable to a suppressed .22lr, which could be comfortably fired without ear protection)

So maybe it's also a case where they where them just to block out any potential noise distractions from the crowd, etc?

Yes, these athletes are using air pistols. I know nothing about pistols though, except the path of the projectile follows roughly the shape of a parabola.

Table from NIH document on air rifle loudness

Here is an NIH document on air rifle loudness:

Auditory Risk of Air Rifles - PMC

To characterize the impulse noise exposure and auditory risk for air rifle users for both youth and adults. Acoustic characteristics were examined and the auditory risk estimates were evaluated using contemporary damage-risk criteria for unprotected ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Yes, these athletes are using air pistols. I know nothing about pistols though, except the path of the projectile follows roughly the shape of a parabola.

Table from NIH document on air rifle loudness
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Here is an NIH document on air rifle loudness:

Auditory Risk of Air Rifles - PMC

To characterize the impulse noise exposure and auditory risk for air rifle users for both youth and adults. Acoustic characteristics were examined and the auditory risk estimates were evaluated using contemporary damage-risk criteria for unprotected ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I noticed that article before:

None of the air rifles generated peak levels that exceeded the 140 dB peak limit for adults and 8 (80%) exceeded the 120 dB peak SPL limit for youth. In general, for both adults and youth there is minimal auditory risk when shooting less than 100 unprotected shots with pellet air rifles.

Conclusion​

To minimize auditory risk, youth should utilize air rifles with an integrated suppressor and lower velocity ratings. Air rifle shooters are advised to wear hearing protection whenever engaging in shooting activities in order to gain self-efficacy and model appropriate hearing health behaviors necessary for recreational firearm use.


So it sounds like the some of the advice is geared toward "it's a good habit to be in if you ever switch to real firearms" sort of thing.

 

[durangodawood]

Yes, these athletes are using air pistols. I know nothing about pistols though, except the path of the projectile follows roughly the shape of a parabola.

Table from NIH document on air rifle loudness
View attachment 352791

Here is an NIH document on air rifle loudness:

Auditory Risk of Air Rifles - PMC

To characterize the impulse noise exposure and auditory risk for air rifle users for both youth and adults. Acoustic characteristics were examined and the auditory risk estimates were evaluated using contemporary damage-risk criteria for unprotected ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Those are way over safe levels.

As a drummer Im glad I started wearing hearing protection early on. A snare drum or open hi hat in front of your head is not healthy when repeated for minutes - or hours.

 

[Laodicean60]

As a drummer Im glad I started wearing hearing protection early on.

I wish I had worn hearing protection to all the concerts I went to and left the baffle in my exhaust pipe.

 

[RDKirk]

I wonder how much of that is necessity, or just a overly-cautious rule...

They're using air pistols and not real pistols for that, correct? (admittedly, I'm not familiar with the exact model they're using there...but the general feedback I'm reading is that the sound level would be comparable to a suppressed .22lr, which could be comfortably fired without ear protection)

So maybe it's also a case where they where them just to block out any potential noise distractions from the crowd, etc?

Yes, it was air pistol, and yes, he was still wearing ear plugs. Hearing damage is cumulative. When we're talking about people who shoot thousands upon thousands of rounds, even that adds up.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Here's a video on the subject from someone who shoots the same discipline:

In short, Dikec shoots using a more classical style (~20 degree off-axis, rather than squared off at 90 degrees); his lack of eye devices (eye blank, iris) is just indicative of him having strong eye dominance and good eyesight. All of these things are about reducing tension in the body so that the shooter is as relaxed as possible.

 

[Lost4words]

Great story...

 

[Offline4Better.]

I noticed that article before:

None of the air rifles generated peak levels that exceeded the 140 dB peak limit for adults and 8 (80%) exceeded the 120 dB peak SPL limit for youth. In general, for both adults and youth there is minimal auditory risk when shooting less than 100 unprotected shots with pellet air rifles.

Conclusion​

To minimize auditory risk, youth should utilize air rifles with an integrated suppressor and lower velocity ratings. Air rifle shooters are advised to wear hearing protection whenever engaging in shooting activities in order to gain self-efficacy and model appropriate hearing health behaviors necessary for recreational firearm use.


So it sounds like the some of the advice is geared toward "it's a good habit to be in if you ever switch to real firearms" sort of thing.

You have seen this article also? But yes, wearing ear protection, even if the air rifles did not exceed limits, is a good habit.

 

[Offline4Better.]

Those are way over safe levels.

As a drummer Im glad I started wearing hearing protection early on. A snare drum or open hi hat in front of your head is not healthy when repeated for minutes - or hours.

Good idea to wear hearing protection as you drum. And yes, 130 dB is way over safe levels, even for a second.