To serve his country, Donald Trump should leave the race

[eclipsenow]

Fake news! One is not convicted until the Judge enters the verdict. Tell us when that was done.

You seem to be confused between conviction and sentencing. This is an Aussie definition - but it's the same in the USA.

A conviction means that you have been found guilty of an offence by the court. This may be because you plead guilty, or because you were proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt despite not pleading guilty.​

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Following a conviction, you will be sentenced. This may occur on the day of the verdict, or within around 6-8 weeks. As part of your sentencing, you may be subject to criminal penalties such as fines, probation or jail time.​

The Difference Between an Arrest, Charge and Conviction | LY Lawyers

Find out what distinguishes charges, arrests and convictions in New South Wales, and the best way to proceed at each stage of the criminal justice system.

lylawyers.com.au

Trump has been convicted of the fraud! Past tense. And it's just embarrassing that he is the GOP candidate!

Trump, the presumed 2024 Republican presidential nominee, in late May became the first former president of the United States to be convicted of a felony. The historic conviction came after the jury in a New York trial found Trump guilty on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records to conceal a “hush money” payment made to an adult film star to prevent a scandal from circulating during the 2016 presidential campaign.

A Guide to the Criminal Cases Against Donald Trump | FRONTLINE

A federal judge dismissed one of three remaining criminal cases against former President Donald Trump in mid-July.

www.pbs.org

 

[Postvieww]

Despite media reports, Rubenfeld insisted that it's "not true" that Trump is already a "convicted felon," arguing that one is "not a convicted felon because of a jury verdict."

"You are not convicted until the judge enters that judgment of guilt.” Yale law professor Jed Rubenfeld.

 

[The Barbarian]

Nope. He's still a convicted criminal. SCOTUS has not overturned the jury decision. Trump is a convicted felon.

Fake news!

Hmmm...

A Manhattan jury found Donald Trump guilty of all 34 counts of falsifying business records in his hush money criminal trial, an unprecedented and historic verdict that makes him the first former president in US history to be convicted of a felony.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-hush-money-trial-05-30-24/index.html

You got that wrong. As you see, Trump is a convicted criminal.

 

[The Barbarian]

For example, Donald Trump has referred to veterans as "suckers" and "losers." Gen. Kelly confirmed it.

Denied by Pompeo, Bolton and Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

Extremist politicians vs. General Kelly. You lose.

 

[Postvieww]

For example, Donald Trump has referred to veterans as "suckers" and "losers." Gen. Kelly confirmed it.


Extremist politicians vs. General Kelly. You lose.

Disgruntled Kelly you lost before you started.

 

[Postvieww]

Nope. He's still a convicted criminal. SCOTUS has not overturned the jury decision. Trump is a convicted felon.


Hmmm...

A Manhattan jury found Donald Trump guilty of all 34 counts of falsifying business records in his hush money criminal trial, an unprecedented and historic verdict that makes him the first former president in US history to be convicted of a felony.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-hush-money-trial-05-30-24/index.html

You got that wrong. As you see, Trump is a convicted criminal.

See Post #302 You got it wrong. Yes a jury convicted but he is legally not yet a felon until the verdict has been entered by the judge. I know you love to throw that convicted felon label around but you are just a little premature. The Judge has not yet in court approved or entered the verdict. Hold your horses.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

For example, Donald Trump has referred to veterans as "suckers" and "losers." Gen. Kelly confirmed it.


Extremist politicians vs. General Kelly. You lose.

That was already fact checked numerous times and was considered unverified. So that fact that you so boadly claim this to be true shows your bias.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

See Post #302 You got it wrong. Yes a jury convicted but he is legally not yet a felon until the verdict has been entered by the judge. I know you love to throw that convicted felon label around but you are just a little premature. The Judge has not yet in court approved or entered the verdict. Hold your horses.

Myself, and the majority of Americans will gladly vote for that "convicted felon."

 

[The Barbarian]

That was already fact checked numerous times and was considered unverified.

We have Gen. Kelly's word on it. And his word is better than the politicians who deny it;. You're free to believe Sara Huckabee Sanders if you want, but given that the Mueller report documents a number of lies she told, that would not be a reasonable decision.

 

[The Barbarian]

Myself, and the majority of Americans will gladly vote for that "convicted felon."

So far, every time Trump has run for office, a majority of Americans voted for others. If you want to vote for a criminal, that's your call, of course. But it doesn't mean he's not a criminal.

 

[The Barbarian]

See Post #302 You got it wrong. Yes a jury convicted but he is legally not yet a felon until the verdict has been entered by the judge. I know you love to throw that convicted felon label around but you are just a little premature. The Judge has not yet in court approved or entered the verdict.

But you can't show us? I think I know why. The verdict is not only approved, the judge has scheduled sentencing.

Q&A on Trump's Criminal Conviction - FactCheck.org

We answer some of the questions raised by former President Donald Trump's conviction in New York.

www.factcheck.org

 

[eclipsenow]

That was already fact checked numerous times and was considered unverified. So that fact that you so boadly claim this to be true shows your bias.

I can't stand Trump and the current Republican policies on climate denial and exaggerating the threat from immigrants - but even I am agnostic on the "suckers" and "losers" claim. If it isn't clear enough for Snopes - it isn't clear enough for me.

Trump Called Fallen US Soldiers 'Suckers' and 'Losers'?

U.S. President Joe Biden accused Trump of deriding military service members during the 2024 presidential debate.

www.snopes.com

But whether or not that particular conversation panned out that way, it's in keeping with his other famous and verifiable comments about what constitutes a war hero or loser.

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The article Trump shared in July 2015 was referring to an appearance then-candidate Trump made at the Family Leadership Summit in Iowa. Conservative pollster Frank Luntz asked Trump if it was appropriate for a man running for the country's highest office to refer to McCain — a war hero and navy pilot who became a prisoner of war after his plane was shot down over Vietnam — as a "dummy."​

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Trump said: "He lost [the 2008 election], so I never liked him as much after that because I don't like losers."​

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When Luntz repeated that McCain was a war hero, Trump said: "He's not a war hero. He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren't captured."

Did Trump Call McCain a Loser?

U.S. President Donald Trump said that he "never called John (McCain) a loser," but that isn't true.

www.snopes.com

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[Oompa Loompa]

If it isn't clear enough for Snopes - it isn't clear enough for me.

Then we are done. You are not worth wasting my time.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

So far, every time Trump has run for office, a majority of Americans voted for others. If you want to vote for a criminal, that's your call, of course. But it doesn't mean he's not a criminal.

So what? Being tried in a kangaroo court makes Trump a martyr to the deep state. Heck, he even took a bullet for this country. So Trump has my vote.

 

[th1bill]

Donald Trump, in context, called Captain McCain a loser because he lost his quest to become President. President Trump did not call any Veterans losers, that is a lie promoted here by Barbarian to me and I know nothing else of the matter except to say Trump is now, a born again Christian that loves God, country and the military that defend it/

 

[eclipsenow]

Donald Trump, in context, called Captain McCain a loser because he lost his quest to become President. President Trump did not call any Veterans losers, that is a lie promoted here by Barbarian to me and I know nothing else of the matter except to say Trump is now, a born again Christian that loves God, country and the military that defend it/

When Luntz repeated that McCain was a war hero, Trump said: "He's not a war hero. He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren't captured."

Also - what evidence do you have that Trump is actually a practicing Christian? Which church does he attend? Has he even opened the bible?

 

[th1bill]

When Luntz repeated that McCain was a war hero, Trump said: "He's not a war hero. He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren't captured."

Also - what evidence do you have that Trump is actually a practicing Christian? Which church does he attend? Has he even opened the bible?

The same proof you have that I am a Christian and the same proof I have about your status. In President Trump's case he put this nation back on it's feet and empowered the common man. I have only your posts and their timber in which they are written to judge. I forgive Trump just as my LORD forgave me of mine. Why would anyone not forgive the President and risk never being forgiven? Matt. 6:14

 

[BPPLEE]

The same proof you have that I am a Christian and the same proof I have about your status. In President Trump's case he put this nation back on it's feet and empowered the common man. I have only your posts and their timber in which they are written to judge. I forgive Trump just as my LORD forgave me of mine. Why would anyone not forgive the President and risk never being forgiven? Matt. 6:14

In an interview with Laura Ingraham he said he prays for family, for the country and for the world.

 

[eclipsenow]

In President Trump's case he put this nation back on it's feet and empowered the common man.

It's not about whether I can forgive or not - but whether I think the world needs Trump in charge of the world's largest military. Consider - he's been diagnosed with Malignant Narcissistic Personality Disorder, threatened to do nothing to defend countries who 'didn't pay - you delinquent', threatened to pull out of NATO, actually pulled out of the Paris agreement on climate change, gave tax cuts to Billionaires and Corporations while cutting government services - especially the pandemic response team just before the pandemic, etc.

He made your country weaker.
Even the abortion stats show that!

Did you know abortion increases when people are feeling economically insecure?
EG: There are countries where abortion is ILLEGAL but has 4 times the abortions of the USA due to poverty.
In Europe - which has universal public healthcare and a stronger welfare state - abortion rates are half what they are in the USA.

But thankfully, the historical trend over the last few decades has been abortion rates coming down - at least in the USA which has got wealthier over that time. However, it comes down faster under Democrats.

In other word, abortion is about the economy - not legality. Conservatives rant about changing words on a bit of paper (legal to illegal) - but the reality is they'll just drive it down - and due to all the stress around it - maybe even increase abortion rates! This is what the global data shows.

All of that to get to this: Trump so mismanaged Covid and blamed the states and hospitals and nurses for using too much PPE - when it was HIS fault for cutting the staff of the pandemic response team - that America's abortion rates went up for the first time in decades!

Even murder rates went up under Trump!​

Do you think it is his hateful, blaming, incendiary speech?

 

[JustOneWay]

Donald Trump, in context, called Captain McCain a loser because he lost his quest to become President. President Trump did not call any Veterans losers, that is a lie promoted here by Barbarian to me and I know nothing else of the matter except to say Trump is now, a born again Christian that loves God, country and the military that defend it/

A draft deferment American male is criticizing a POW who was imprisoned for years behind enemy lines.

And republicans want to vote for this guy? This is why the republican Mayor in Mesa AZ said he was voting for a democrat over Trump.