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Suspect dead after 80-year-old hit by ATV in Hancock

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Another act of violence. The media is complicit in such political hate crimes.
 

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Another act of violence. The media is complicit in such political hate crimes.
Which part of the media?
 
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Another act of violence. The media is complicit in such political hate crimes.
Prayers for the man who was hit with the four-wheeler. We need a system to catch these criminals sooner before violence is committed, or at least a system where ATV drivers and vehicle owners are screened mentally by a doctor before getting an operator's or driver's license.
 
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Prayers for the man who was hit with the four-wheeler. We need a system to catch these criminals sooner before violence is committed, or at least a system where ATV drivers and vehicle owners are screened mentally by a doctor before getting an operator's or driver's license.
Why do we need laws to screen ATV owners?
Not every “problem” needs to be “fixed”.
 
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Why do we need laws to screen ATV owners?
Not every “problem” needs to be “fixed”.
I love fixing problems that are impossible to fix. A few days ago, I watched a police video (no one was harmed on screen), where an ATV driver drank too much alcohol, and hit a cyclist in the middle of the night on a non-ATV trail, and the driver denied the whole thing. Took an arrest to get him to finally plead guilty. Alcohol > legal limit + wheels + driving = danger to society.
 
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Why do we need laws to screen ATV owners?
Not every “problem” needs to be “fixed”.
Hate ATVs. People drive them like boats. Drunk and heedless. And they stomp them all over the fragile high country tundra.
 
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Hate ATVs. People drive them like boats. Drunk and heedless. And they stomp them all over the fragile high country tundra.
Amen brother. My parents and I used to live in the country, and we had a disdain for ATVs as well. Only a few people such as our neighbors and friends managed to drive the off-road vehicles nicely, while others cut through our property line and others, including destroying the pristine nature.
 
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