Black Lives Matter calls for public participation in the Democratic nomination process

[probinson]

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
JULY 23, 2024

Black Lives Matter calls on the DNC to host a virtual snap primary.

Washington D.C. – Black Lives Matter demands that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) immediately host an informal, virtual snap primary across the country prior to the DNC convention in August. We call for the Rules Committee to create a process that allows for public participation in the nomination process, not just a nomination by party delegates. The current political landscape is unprecedented, with President Biden stepping aside in a manner never seen before. This moment calls for decisive action to protect the integrity of our democracy and the voices of Black voters.

While Joe Biden wasn’t our preferred candidate, we cannot ignore the troubling actions of the Democratic Party:

• The DNC refused to host debates during the primary, even though a vast majority of Democratic voters wanted them. This would have likely allowed America to see the decline of Joe Biden in 2023.
• The DNC changed the primary schedule and created rules that made it almost impossible for non-Biden candidates to appear on the ballot, effectively clearing the field of any challengers to the incumbent president.
• Following the primary where millions of Black voters weighed in, after one poor debate performance, the DNC Party elites and billionaire donors bullied Joe Biden out of the race.

Now, Democratic Party elites and billionaire donors are attempting to manipulate Black voters by anointing Kamala Harris and an unknown vice president as the new Democratic ticket without a primary vote by the public. This blatant disregard for democratic principles is unacceptable. While the potential outcome of a Harris presidency may be historic, the process to achieve it must align with true democratic values. We have no idea where Kamala Harris stands on the issues, now that she has assumed Joe Biden’s place, and we have no idea of the record of her potential vice president because we don’t even know who it is yet.

https://blacklivesmatter.com/black-lives-matter-statement-on-kamala-harris-securing-enough-delegates-to-become-democratic-nominee/

 

[probinson]

Sounds like not everyone is happy with the way things are progressing.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Good thing we're not taking marching orders from those marxists anymore, eh?

 

[probinson]

Good thing we're not taking marching orders from those marxists anymore, eh?

It kind of throws a monkey wrench in the claim that it's only conservatives and the right that have issues with the way Harris was vaulted to the top by the Democratic elite. I don't think anyone would call BLM "conservative" or accuse them of being on the right.

 

[iluvatar5150]

It kind of throws a monkey wrench in the claim that it's only conservatives and the right that have issues with the way Harris was vaulted to the top by the Democratic elite. I don't think anyone would call BLM "conservative" or accuse them of being on the right.

Are people claiming that it's only the right who have issues with that?

 

[probinson]

Are people claiming that it's only the right who have issues with that?

Yeah. Right here on this forum. It's just rightists disingenuously telling Democrats how they should feel and "far right talking points". But here is a very non-right group clearly unhappy with the current turn of events.

 

[mark46]

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
JULY 23, 2024

Black Lives Matter calls on the DNC to host a virtual snap primary.

Washington D.C. – Black Lives Matter demands that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) immediately host an informal, virtual snap primary across the country prior to the DNC convention in August. We call for the Rules Committee to create a process that allows for public participation in the nomination process, not just a nomination by party delegates. The current political landscape is unprecedented, with President Biden stepping aside in a manner never seen before. This moment calls for decisive action to protect the integrity of our democracy and the voices of Black voters.

While Joe Biden wasn’t our preferred candidate, we cannot ignore the troubling actions of the Democratic Party:

• The DNC refused to host debates during the primary, even though a vast majority of Democratic voters wanted them. This would have likely allowed America to see the decline of Joe Biden in 2023.
• The DNC changed the primary schedule and created rules that made it almost impossible for non-Biden candidates to appear on the ballot, effectively clearing the field of any challengers to the incumbent president.
• Following the primary where millions of Black voters weighed in, after one poor debate performance, the DNC Party elites and billionaire donors bullied Joe Biden out of the race.

Now, Democratic Party elites and billionaire donors are attempting to manipulate Black voters by anointing Kamala Harris and an unknown vice president as the new Democratic ticket without a primary vote by the public. This blatant disregard for democratic principles is unacceptable. While the potential outcome of a Harris presidency may be historic, the process to achieve it must align with true democratic values. We have no idea where Kamala Harris stands on the issues, now that she has assumed Joe Biden’s place, and we have no idea of the record of her potential vice president because we don’t even know who it is yet.

https://blacklivesmatter.com/black-lives-matter-statement-on-kamala-harris-securing-enough-delegates-to-become-democratic-nominee/

I thought that BLM was run by Biden, Harris and left leaning House members. ROFL
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NOW, it is clear to see that BLM is not in any way in the mainstream of the Democratic Party, and certainly not very influential.

 

[A2SG]

Sounds like not everyone is happy with the way things are progressing.

When was the last time everyone was happy with the way things progressed?

Oh right....that's never happened.

-- A2SG, that's why we say you can't please everyone.....

 

[Bradskii]

Sounds like not everyone is happy with the way things are progressing.

You seem not to be.

 

[probinson]

Hmm. Where are all the accusations that these are just right-wing talking points, to say that democrats have usurped the democratic process in their appointment of Harris? Certainly no one is going to claim that BLM is "right-wing". But they have some pretty harsh criticisms of the Democrats. Just in case you didn't read their statement, here are some highlights.

Now, Democratic Party elites and billionaire donors are attempting to manipulate Black voters by anointing Kamala Harris and an unknown vice president as the new Democratic ticket without a primary vote by the public. This blatant disregard for democratic principles is unacceptable.​

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We do not live in a dictatorship. Delegates are not oligarchs. Any attempt to evade or override the will of voters in our primary system—no matter how historic the candidate—must be condemned. ​

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For the past few years, the Democratic Party has proclaimed that “democracy is on the ballot” in an effort to persuade Black voters to participate in the upcoming general election. They have presented this as the most serious election for democracy in our lifetimes. However, democracy isn’t just an ideal to be protected against Republicans; it must also be safeguarded from erosions within the Democratic Party. Calls for “unity” cannot come at the expense of democracy. The Democratic party, which has been the loudest in defending democracy, is now poised to commit some of the most undemocratic maneuvering to avoid listening to the will of the voters.​

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Let us be clear: This is about the Democratic Party following a process that protects the legitimacy of any future Democratic president following this unprecedented moment. Installing Kamala Harris as the Democratic nominee and an unknown vice president without any public voting process would make the modern Democratic Party a party of hypocrites. It would undermine their credibility on issues related to democracy. ​

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Since 1972, presidential candidates have needed to undergo a vote by the public to receive the nomination, which replaced the era when party bosses controlled the nomination process. Binding primaries were established to ensure that the nominee reflected the will of the people rather than party elites.​

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Those of us who care about the principles of democracy cannot be serious about installing Kamala Harris and an unknown vice president as the Democratic nominee without any semblance of a people-powered process. Not delegates and party elites, but actually asking communities across the country if they believe this should be the democratic ticket. Anything less is unserious in the quest for democracy. ​

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[probinson]

I thought that BLM was run by Biden, Harris and left leaning House members. ROFL
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NOW, it is clear to see that BLM is not in any way in the mainstream of the Democratic Party, and certainly not very influential.

Careful. Such a callous attitude might lead people to think you don't care about the concerns of black voters. That might not be the best strategy for your desired outcome come November.

 

[durangodawood]

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
JULY 23, 2024

Black Lives Matter calls on the DNC to host a virtual snap primary.

Washington D.C. – Black Lives Matter demands that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) immediately host an informal, virtual snap primary across the country prior to the DNC convention in August. We call for the Rules Committee to create a process that allows for public participation in the nomination process, not just a nomination by party delegates. The current political landscape is unprecedented, with President Biden stepping aside in a manner never seen before. This moment calls for decisive action to protect the integrity of our democracy and the voices of Black voters.

While Joe Biden wasn’t our preferred candidate, we cannot ignore the troubling actions of the Democratic Party:

• The DNC refused to host debates during the primary, even though a vast majority of Democratic voters wanted them. This would have likely allowed America to see the decline of Joe Biden in 2023.
• The DNC changed the primary schedule and created rules that made it almost impossible for non-Biden candidates to appear on the ballot, effectively clearing the field of any challengers to the incumbent president.
• Following the primary where millions of Black voters weighed in, after one poor debate performance, the DNC Party elites and billionaire donors bullied Joe Biden out of the race.

Now, Democratic Party elites and billionaire donors are attempting to manipulate Black voters by anointing Kamala Harris and an unknown vice president as the new Democratic ticket without a primary vote by the public. This blatant disregard for democratic principles is unacceptable. While the potential outcome of a Harris presidency may be historic, the process to achieve it must align with true democratic values. We have no idea where Kamala Harris stands on the issues, now that she has assumed Joe Biden’s place, and we have no idea of the record of her potential vice president because we don’t even know who it is yet.

https://blacklivesmatter.com/black-lives-matter-statement-on-kamala-harris-securing-enough-delegates-to-become-democratic-nominee/

Where did you first learn about this?

 

[probinson]

Where did you first learn about this?

Black Lives Matter denounces Democrats for "anointing" Kamala Harris

BLM has said the rapid installment of Kamala Harris as the expected Democratic presidential nominee is "not democratic."

www.newsweek.com

 

[iluvatar5150]

Yeah. Right here on this forum. It's just rightists disingenuously telling Democrats how they should feel and "far right talking points". But here is a very non-right group clearly unhappy with the current turn of events.

It can both be true that the complaints from the right are disingenuous while there are similar, sincere complaints from the left. I don't know anybody on the left who preferred this course, though most I'm aware of accept this as being the course most likely to win.

I'd add that, IME, few people care much about what BLM the organization says. Most folks care about "Black Lives Matter" the concept, not the legal entity.

 

[durangodawood]

Black Lives Matter denounces Democrats for "anointing" Kamala Harris

BLM has said the rapid installment of Kamala Harris as the expected Democratic presidential nominee is "not democratic."

www.newsweek.com

You read Newsweek?

I thought they were like Time - referred to when convenient but never anyones primary media.

 

[probinson]

It can both be true that the complaints from the right are disingenuous while there are similar, sincere complaints from the left.

How does that work? If the complaints are EXACTLY. THE. SAME. how can one complaint be "disingenuous" while another is "sincere"?

I'd add that, IME, few people care much about what BLM the organization says. Most folks care about "Black Lives Matter" the concept, not the legal entity.

 

[probinson]

You read Newsweek?

I thought they were like Time - referred to when convenient but never anyones primary media.

I read lots of stuff. Apple News is my aggregator of choice, so I guess it would be more accurate to say I saw it on Apple News first. I intentionally choose to read news from all viewpoints (even those I disagree with) and multiple sources. Doesn't everyone?

 

[iluvatar5150]

How does that work? If the complaints are EXACTLY. THE. SAME. how can one complaint be "disingenuous" while another is "sincere"?

It's disingenuous (tbf - I think that word is a bit strong in this case, though I concede I can't think of a better one) when you don't actually care about the thing you're complaining about. In this thread, do you actually care about the DNC listening to BLM and living up to some democratic ideal, or do you just want to point out how the DNC are a bunch of doodooheads?

 

[durangodawood]

Next up: the antifa take.

 

[BCP1928]

I read lots of stuff. Apple News is my aggregator of choice, so I guess it would be more accurate to say I saw it on Apple News first. I intentionally choose to read news from all viewpoints (even those I disagree with) and multiple sources. Doesn't everyone?

Most of us. But why did you post this particular story? It's hardly breaking news that there are Democrats unhappy with the rush to Harris.