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Who is JD Vance? What to know about Donald Trump's VP pick

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What you need to know is omitted. Vance has ties working for big tech, including Peter Theil, a billionaire who co-founded paypal and Palantir a data company that started with seed money from the CIA. You night also note that Vance flip flopped on religion, from evangelical, to near atheist to Catholic. Here is what he said about faith. What has JD Vance said about his faith? It leaves me very skeptical that he was chosen over other picks with far less baggage and far more experience.
 
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What you need to know is omitted. Vance has ties working for big tech, including Peter Theil, a billionaire who co-founded paypal and Palantir a data company that started with seed money from the CIA. You night also note that Vance flip flopped on religion, from evangelical, to near atheist to Catholic. Here is what he said about faith. What has JD Vance said about his faith? It leaves me very skeptical that he was chosen over other picks with far less baggage and far more experience.
Makes no difference to me. Trump could pick his neighbor's dog for a running mate and he'd still get my vote, simply because I will not cast a vote for a Democrat, most especially not for a Democrat like Joe Biden or any of his ilk.
 
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What you need to know is omitted. Vance has ties working for big tech, including Peter Theil, a billionaire who co-founded paypal and Palantir a data company that started with seed money from the CIA. You night also note that Vance flip flopped on religion, from evangelical, to near atheist to Catholic. Here is what he said about faith. What has JD Vance said about his faith? It leaves me very skeptical that he was chosen over other picks with far less baggage and far more experience.
I watched about him being in business before running.
He seems smart.
Knows how things work.
I think there's a movie about his life?
Or something. Glenn Close plays his mema or whatever.
[grandma]

Rough start - his mom an abusive addict at 1his age 12 got him the car and started speeding to kill him but he jumped out.

So his gam raised him.
She made him feel safe and pushed him to be smart.
 
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I don’t subscribe to Netflix. I can always pick up the book.
The movie, Hillbillie Eulogy, based on his book, is now on Netflix. That can be a window into who he is.
 
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What you need to know is omitted. Vance has ties working for big tech, including Peter Theil, a billionaire who co-founded paypal and Palantir a data company that started with seed money from the CIA. You night also note that Vance flip flopped on religion, from evangelical, to near atheist to Catholic. Here is what he said about faith. What has JD Vance said about his faith? It leaves me very skeptical that he was chosen over other picks with far less baggage and far more experience.
I like Tulsi but she isn't christian.
But she is smart and served the military.
She knows about how bad it is in the democratic party.

She'd whip Kamala like she did in the past.

However; if we're seeking perfect candidates, it's a miss.
 
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Hopefully he will not get back stabbed like he did with his last running mate.
Pence is actually a decent person. What he did was not backstabbing, it's called standing up for your morals, and not giving in to what a complete narc wants.

I dislike Vance based solely on something he said and then doubled down on. If you don't have children, he doesn't think you deserve as much of a say on anything as those who have children do. His entire quote was negative and nasty, and his views on this are actually dangerous. He, apparently, later amended himself that he didn't mean people who wanted kids, were conservative, but didn't have them yet or something. I don't care. I'm thoroughly turned off to him now. Not that I was planning on voting for Trump anyway, because I think he's an absolute trash person, whom I still don't see how Christians have allowed themselves to be bamboozled by.
 
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Not that I was planning on voting for Trump anyway, because I think he's an absolute trash person, whom I still don't see how Christians have allowed themselves to be bamboozled by.
The whole point is for us to see the need for Jesus to be Lord and King. He will rule and reign for 1,000 years and we can look forward to that when we see what a mess man makes out of things. They want people to vote so that they can think that a candidate is their choice when that is not true at all. Even if the election is not rigged the way they manipulate the voters is rigged. Then they laugh all the way to the bank with your money.
 
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Pence is actually a decent person. What he did was not backstabbing, it's called standing up for your morals, and not giving in to what a complete narc wants.

I dislike Vance based solely on something he said and then doubled down on. If you don't have children, he doesn't think you deserve as much of a say on anything as those who have children do. His entire quote was negative and nasty, and his views on this are actually dangerous. He, apparently, later amended himself that he didn't mean people who wanted kids, were conservative, but didn't have them yet or something. I don't care. I'm thoroughly turned off to him now. Not that I was planning on voting for Trump anyway, because I think he's an absolute trash person, whom I still don't see how Christians have allowed themselves to be bamboozled by.
He could have demanded scrutiny on the ballots.

Recounts happen.
It is not some new thing that just popped up.

I still cannot do the math the democrats pushed.
81 million votes for a man in decline who was hidden all through 2020.
THE most votes ever??? Really..?
That is absurd in a thriving economy.
It just does not happen unless our country is obtuse.


He did not answer his policies. He did not campaign and when he had rallies few few people showed up.
200-2000 at most.

And somehow we are to believe that Trump was way ahead - and the write ins came in and TRUMP did not get another vote and Biden surpassed the landslide, who nobody knew what he ran on.

Not another vote for Trump in the harvested ballots.
Harvested. People went out and took ballots for people, and who knows how many Trump ballots hit the shredder.

That's mathematically impossible no votes came in for Trump.
 
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The whole point is for us to see the need for Jesus to be Lord and King. He will rule and reign for 1,000 years and we can look forward to that when we see what a mess man makes out of things. They want people to vote so that they can think that a candidate is their choice when that is not true at all. Even if the election is not rigged the way they manipulate the voters is rigged. Then they laugh all the way to the bank with your money.
Yes.
And the scriptures tell us the Lord gives us leaders to run a country via His laws.

He left us His steward to help humanity in His absense.

But nobody can tell me He wanted Biden in office.
Pro choice
Pro woke
Pro tax burdens
Lies boldly
Is treasonous
Goes after his opponent in the courts
The Lord said we are not to be deceitful.
TRUMP may not be the most polite, but he does not deceive.
It's one thing to have a character flaw, it's another to boldly lie and attack an opponent at a communist level.
Communism is meant to be a punishment - see the Visions of Fatima.

And he is senile.

Unless the Lord said - Meh, you're on your own.

Where the Lord can help, the serpent slithers in.
The deceiver wants us to ruin our children....
Democrat party ushered in.
 
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And the scriptures tell us the Lord gives us leaders to run a country via His laws.
What scripture is that? Did you read 1 Samual 8? "5“Look,” they said, “you are old, and your sons do not walk in your ways. Now appoint a king to judge us like all the other nations.” 6But when they said, “Give us a king to judge us,” their demand was displeasing in the sight of Samuel; so he prayed to the LORD. 7And the LORD said to Samuel, “Listen to the voice of the people in all that they say to you. For it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected Me as their king"

BECAUSE people reject God we have the government we have. There is a BIG difference between the permissive will of God and the perfect Divine will of God. God wants everyone to be saved but we have free will and He allows people to perish in their sin. He allows people to establish their own Government. But He puts limits on what He allows.

It is a huge theological question as to WHY God allows what HE allows. It is difficult to understand how God can cause good to come out of everything. Look at the Holocaust with Hitler as their elected official? HOW can God cause good to come out of that? But he does. Did God allow Hitler to be elected? According to you, yes He did. Did God allow 6 to 8 million people to be killed?

People reject God's provision, His leadership and His commandments.
This is why in the ARK was the manna, Arron's rod that budded and the ten commandments.
This is why Jesus went to Calvary because of His love for us. (The Joy set before HIm)
Even as Jesus sacrificed Himself for us, the husband is to sacrifice himself for his bride.
Then of course the Bride is to honor and respect.
 
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What scripture is that? Did you read 1 Samual 8? "5“Look,” they said, “you are old, and your sons do not walk in your ways. Now appoint a king to judge us like all the other nations.” 6But when they said, “Give us a king to judge us,” their demand was displeasing in the sight of Samuel; so he prayed to the LORD. 7And the LORD said to Samuel, “Listen to the voice of the people in all that they say to you. For it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected Me as their king"

BECAUSE people reject God we have the government we have. There is a BIG difference between the permissive will of God and the perfect Divine will of God. God wants everyone to be saved but we have free will and He allows people to perish in their sin. He allows people to establish their own Government. But He puts limits on what He allows.

It is a huge theological question as to WHY God allows what HE allows. It is difficult to understand how God can cause good to come out of everything. Look at the Holocaust with Hitler as their elected official? HOW can God cause good to come out of that? But he does. Did God allow Hitler to be elected? According to you, yes He did. Did God allow 6 to 8 million people to be killed?

People reject God's provision, His leadership and His commandments.
This is why in the ARK was the manna, Arron's rod that budded and the ten commandments.
This is why Jesus went to Calvary because of His love for us. (The Joy set before HIm)
Even as Jesus sacrificed Himself for us, the husband is to sacrifice himself for his bride.
Then of course the Bride is to honor and respect.
The apostle Paul, writing to Christians living in the capital city of the Roman Empire, wrote, “All authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God” (Romans 13:1, NLT 2013; see also Psalm 75:6-7; John 19:10-11).

As the Churches empty the world goes nuts with sins.
 
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I was hoping for Carson but I am sure Trump will give Carson whatever job he wants.
I hope the surgeon general, if he takes it this time.
Because the nut we have pushed trans surgeries on youth.
 
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