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"But that means God has already decided some to go to hell and they don't have any kind of choice in the matter, and can't change it ever, etc?"No one is culpable/responsible for their actions or inactions.
Because we don't save or damn ourselves, but that has already been decided/chosen for us.
The universe is/has been always deterministic from the beginning, and this can be proven or shown with or by the laws of physics scientifically.
If even one level of the thing can be shown/proven to always behave/act deterministically, then all levels below or above it must also be deterministic. I am thinking of the level of the atom in this case, etc.
People don't like to admit this for a lot of reasons, etc. With the religious crowd, it is because it severely messes with their religious beliefs and/or theology, etc. For others, it's just plain old rebelliousness and wanting to be in control of their own destiny, etc.
But neither are adequate reasons for denying the truth that can be proven/shown scientifically, etc.
And as far as theology goes, if this world/us/this universe is not deterministic, and does not behave deterministically, etc, then there is no one, not even a God, who can know everything, etc.
But I believe there is, etc.
As for other theological issues associated with this, I have worked almost all of them out already, etc, and you can ask me about them if you want to.
But if you see any of this as a reason to behave or act evil, or in an evil way, then there is something very much seriously wrong with you, because that's just plain old stupid, and is the ultimate act of rebellion against any God, etc. But if that's what you truly want to do, then just do it I guess.
You'll go to hell, and show that you were just always one of those who was only ever destined for hell, but just do it if that's what you really want to do I guess.
God Bless.
This is correct.
But from our perspective, it still can be changed, etc, but just not from God's, etc.
And hell/lake of fire is not what you think it is either, etc. But in the end, it is just only getting/having only more of this only here, etc. And that has always been forever, etc.
And also, it was also necessary for God to have some vessels that only were/forever are, etc, only fit for a bad or evil use here, etc. And those don't ever get to go beyond here, etc. And that has also always been forever, etc. Or will always be from forever, and will always continue to into forever, etc. And cannot be changed from God's perspective, etc, but only still can be from ours, etc.
And as for other theological conundrums, ask me, etc.
God Bless.
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