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Will the Democratic Party drop Joe Biden?

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I don't normally pay attention to Hollywood types...but in this case, I agree with George Clooney's Op-Ed in today's NYT's:

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I don't normally pay attention to Hollywood types...but in this case, I agree with George Clooney's Op-Ed in today's NYT's:

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No, Joe needs to stay in. Remember all the people who said they met with him and he was sharp as a tack? General Milly, Mayorkus, Morning Joe all said Biden was at the top of his game. Video showing otherwise was selectively edited propaganda and deep fake videos.
Why are left leaning people only seeing now what we’ve been telling them for at least 3 years.
Biden 2024, stay in Joe!
 
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No, Joe needs to stay in. Remember all the people who said they met with him and he was sharp as a tack? General Milly, Mayorkus, Morning Joe all said Biden was at the top of his game. Video showing otherwise was selectively edited propaganda and deep fake videos.
Why are left leaning people only seeing now what we’ve been telling them for at least 3 years.
Biden 2024, stay in Joe!

Your preference is noted.
 
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You know if Biden stays in it, and ends up winning.... Then you *know* it's rigged!

...I'm pretty sure France was rigged in the left's favor too.
Good grief! Have you considered that right wing politics aren't as popular as you seem to think they are?
 
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You know if Biden stays in it, and ends up winning.... Then you *know* it's rigged!

...I'm pretty sure France was rigged in the left's favor too.
The recent UK elections were a landslide victory for the political left (Labour). Were they also rigged?

Australia also has a left-wing government. Did they also cheat the election?

Have you ever considered the possibility that elections are often won simply because the winner gets more votes?

OB
 
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No comment necessary....

Starts at 47 seconds.....

....otherwise, he spoke competently and convered a broad range of foreign policy topics, in depth...which is to be expected by a POTUS who was the Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and served two terms as VP. His opponent didn't know what NATO was.....

Having said that, I still think Joe should step aside...and I think he will by next week.
 
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You know if Biden stays in it, and ends up winning.... Then you *know* it's rigged!

...I'm pretty sure France was rigged in the left's favor too.

This is self deception friend. What we would know from Biden beating Trump again is how awful Donald is as a presidential candidate. And that more Americans prefer President Biden in our Oval Office. Donald Trump earned 7,000,000 fewer votes than Joe Biden in 2020, and that was before Mr Trump was convicted of 34 criminal felonies. To convince oneself another Biden win would be proof of a fix is disrespectful to oneself and our electoral process. And sans evidence, disrespectful of truth in general.
 
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NYT is reporting Biden's perception of the race is shaped by a small circle of advisors and family....Biden needs a reality check.


Recent interviews with more than three dozen people, some of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations about the campaign, reveal a truth about the state of Mr. Biden’s campaign: the people steering Mr. Biden through the biggest political crisis of his presidency are true believers in the mythology of Joe Biden as the comeback kid, and they discount opinions to the contrary.

The result is a historic standoff between Mr. Biden and his small inner circle on the one hand, and broad swaths of voters and elected Democrats fearful of an electoral wipeout in November on the other.

It’s a battle Mr. Biden has seemed to embrace in recent days. When asked on Monday night about whom he consults on issues like remaining in the race or dropping out, the president offered a terse response: “Me.”

“Look, I’ve been doing this a long time,” he said in an interview with NBC’s Lester Holt, adding, “My mental acuity’s been pretty damn good.”

 
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NYT is reporting Biden's perception of the race is shaped by a small circle of advisors and family....Biden needs a reality check.


Recent interviews with more than three dozen people, some of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations about the campaign, reveal a truth about the state of Mr. Biden’s campaign: the people steering Mr. Biden through the biggest political crisis of his presidency are true believers in the mythology of Joe Biden as the comeback kid, and they discount opinions to the contrary.

The result is a historic standoff between Mr. Biden and his small inner circle on the one hand, and broad swaths of voters and elected Democrats fearful of an electoral wipeout in November on the other.

It’s a battle Mr. Biden has seemed to embrace in recent days. When asked on Monday night about whom he consults on issues like remaining in the race or dropping out, the president offered a terse response: “Me.”

“Look, I’ve been doing this a long time,” he said in an interview with NBC’s Lester Holt, adding, “My mental acuity’s been pretty damn good.”

Fear is a highly sought-after voter-motivation and could be used by the Biden team to help secure reelection by allowing the “but can he even win?” meme to percolate through the country, thus ensuring a fearful public to cast their votes according to these fears.

This is a higher plane of politicking but politicking, nonetheless.
 
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Joe's not going anywhere unless the DNC convention turns against him and there is still time for that to happen. But that would take another disaster probably worse than his debate performance that would make even his handlers realize it can't be hidden/explained away any longer. Personally I think Trump would prefer Biden stay simply for 'revenge' purposes. I hope Biden stays because he is a 99.9% guaranteed loss. But we got 3.5 months until the election and a lot can happen between now and then so we will see.......
 
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So Joe criticizes Trump for wanting to send Nat. Guard to Minneapolis during riots. Joe seems to appear OK with letting Minneapolis burn down and tear itself apart. Crowd does not sound very enthusiastic with Joe's approach.


Excerpt take from Bidens Las Vegas speech on 7/16

 
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Or will they hold onto him like grim death?
If so basically handing the election to a from of government we will no longer recognize. Very selfish of Joe.
 
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Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi privately told President Joe Biden in a recent conversation that polling shows that the president cannot defeat Donald Trump and that Biden could destroy Democrats’ chances of winning the House in November if he continues seeking a second term, according to four sources briefed on the call.

The president responded by pushing back, telling Pelosi he has seen polls that indicate he can win, one source said. Another one of the sources described Biden as getting defensive about the polls. At one point, Pelosi asked Mike Donilon, Biden’s longtime adviser, to get on the line to talk over the data.

 
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