Louisiana classrooms now required by law to display the Ten Commandments

[essentialsaltes]

The Supreme Court may have "written that", but these are not declarations with any defining legal meaning.

 

[HARK!]

They did the same thing with civil rights. People thought it was one thing and it opened the floodgates for the rest. That's why you have gay marriage

I'm not sure that I understand your point. Are you saying that posting the Decalogue in a public building is a civil rights violation; but that hanging a pride flag, or even mandating a pride day, is not?

 

[HARK!]

The thing is, you're the one looking to change the country.

LOL! I almost squirted my oversized soft drink out of my nose laughing.

Sorry, I'm too smart to fall for your gaslighting.

Do you have anything to add to the topic of this thread, which incidentally isn't about me?

 

[AlexB23]

Where does this Bill state that you must take an oath?

Does your post not pledge support for the American Civil Liberties Union, the American Civil Liberties Union of Louisiana, Americans United for Separation of Church and State and the Freedom from Religion Foundation's position?

My post said nothing about pledging to these organizations. I just follow the Bible. Let a man do what he wants to.

I will only pledge the Nicene Creed, and will never pledge to any nation. In fact, I do not even celebrate Halloween, as it is not Christian.

 

[MForbes]

It was required to be read out loud in public places. Is that what you would prefer? I would.

Good luck in your theocracy. It wouldn’t turn out well for anyone but those in power.

 

[HARK!]

Good luck in your theocracy. It wouldn’t turn out well for anyone but those in power.

שמע YHWH is one. He has always been in power. He always will be.​

 

[bèlla]

I'm not sure that I understand your point. Are you saying that posting the Decalogue in a public building is a civil rights violation; but that hanging a pride flag, or even mandating a pride day, is not?

Civil rights was the avenue for the rest. Some of the things you didn't want later on were made possible by that law. In like fashion, they'll make it christian to get the ball rolling but it's not about you. It's another form of indoctrination for your children. You don't know what they'll replace it with but they will. Look what they've done thus far.

While you're celebrating that they're discussing AI K-12 curriculum at a WEF event in China. Teachers aren't part of the plan. AI will be instructing your children and they'll have a humanoid eventually. That's where were heading.

~bella

 

[MForbes]

שמע YHWH is one. He has always been in power. He always will be.​

Not disputing that, just theocracy.

 

[HARK!]

Not disputing that, just theocracy.

theo-​

word-forming element of Greek origin meaning "god, gods, God," from Greek theos "god," which is reconstructed to be from PIE root *dhes-, forming words for religious concepts, such as Latin feriae "holidays," festus "festive," fanum "temple."

theo- | Etymology of prefix theo- by etymonline

"god, gods, God," from Greek theos "god," which is reconstructed to be from PIE root… See origin and meaning of theo-.

www.etymonline.com

-cracy​

word-forming element forming nouns meaning "rule or government by," from French -cratie or directly from Medieval Latin -cratia, from Greek -kratia "power, might; rule, sway; power over; a power, authority," from kratos "strength" (from PIE *kre-tes- "power, strength," suffixed form of root *kar- "hard").

-cracy | Etymology of prefix -cracy by etymonline

"rule or government by," from French -cratie or directly from Medieval Latin -cratia,… See origin and meaning of -cracy.

www.etymonline.com

His Kingdom was, and is, and is to come.

 

[essentialsaltes]

LOL! I almost squirted my oversized soft drink out of my nose laughing.

Sorry, I'm too smart to fall for your gaslighting.

The issue's been settled for decades. Mandated posting the Ten Commandments in schools is unconstitutional.

So for Louisiana to do so would require a change.

Sure there is. It's a matter of settled law. (<--- mild black humor)

Stone v. Graham​

Stone v. Graham, 449 U.S. 39 (1980), was a court case in which the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that a Kentucky statute was unconstitutional and in violation of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment, because it lacked a nonreligious, legislative purpose. The statute required the posting of a copy of the Ten Commandments on the wall of each public classroom in the state. The copies of the Ten Commandments were purchased with private funding, but the Court ruled that because they were being placed in public classrooms they were in violation of the First Amendment.

 

[HARK!]

Good luck

good (adj.)​

from Proto-Germanic *gōda- "fitting, suitable" (source also of Old Frisian god, Old Saxon gōd, Old Norse goðr, Middle Dutch goed, Dutch goed, Old High German guot, German gut, Gothic goþs).

Good - Etymology, Origin & Meaning

Originating from Old English gōd and god, from Proto-Germanic *gōda- meaning "fitting, suitable," the word means excellent, beneficial, righteous, or a good thing.

www.etymonline.com

luck (n.)​

c. 1500, "fortune good or bad, what happens to one by chance (conceived as being favorable or not); good luck, quality of having a tendency to receive desired or beneficial outcomes," not found in Old English, probably from early Middle Dutch luc, shortening of gheluc "happiness, good fortune," a word of unknown origin. It has cognates in Modern Dutch geluk, Middle High German g(e)lücke, German Glück "fortune, good luck."

Luck - Etymology, Origin & Meaning

Originating c. 1500 from early Middle Dutch "luc" meaning "happiness," luck means good or bad fortune and also the verb "to have good luck" (1945).

www.etymonline.com

fortune (n.)​

c. 1300, "chance, luck as a force in human affairs," from Old French fortune "lot, good fortune, misfortune" (12c.), from Latin fortuna "chance, fate, good luck," from fors (genitive fortis) "chance, luck,"

Fortune - Etymology, Origin & Meaning

Originating c.1300 from Old French and Latin fortuna, meaning chance or luck, this word derives from PIE root *bher- implying "to carry," linking to fate or fortune.

www.etymonline.com

Fortuna (Latin: Fortūna, equivalent to the Greek goddess Tyche) is the goddess of fortune and the personification of luck in Roman religion who, largely thanks to the Late Antique author Boethius, remained popular through the Middle Ages until at least the Renaissance. The blindfolded depiction of her is still an important figure in many aspects of today's Italian culture, where the dichotomy fortuna / sfortuna (luck / unluck) plays a prominent role in everyday social life, also represented by the very common refrain "La [dea] fortuna è cieca" (latin Fortuna caeca est; "Luck [goddess] is blind").

Fortuna - Wikipedia

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I don't recognize that.

Can public school teachers say that?

 

[HARK!]

“God’s government” has never been God’s government. It doesn’t and has never worked that way. God has not ruled any of the governments that have existed.

He rules those who recognize his authority.

That limitation will change.


(CLV) Re 2:27
and he shall be shepherding them with an iron club, as vessels of pottery are being crushed, as I also have obtained from My Father.

(CLV) Php 2:10
that in the name of Jesus every knee should be bowing, celestial and terrestrial and subterranean,

(CLV) Php 2:11
and every tongue should be acclaiming that Jesus Christ is Lord, for the glory of God, the Father.



“We recognize no sovereign but God, and no king but Jesus!” --John Hancock, April 18, 1775

 

[HARK!]

The issue's been settled for decades. Mandated posting the Ten Commandments in schools is unconstitutional.

So for Louisiana to do so would require a change.

Oh that pesky 10th Amendment.

 

[MForbes]

“We recognize no sovereign but God, and no king but Jesus!” --John Hancock, April 18, 1775

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[HARK!]

The “No King But Jesus” Myth

Here’s a myth about the fighting at Lexington in April 1775 that’s become popular on the American far right over the last thirty years. W...

boston1775.blogspot.com

“No king but Jesus” and the American Revolution

Did John Adams and John Hancock reply to Major Pitcairn We recognize no sovereign but God and no king but Jesus! when the British officer called on the assembled minutemen to disperse on 19 April 1…

fakehistory.wordpress.com

Wordpress and a blogspot?

If you are going to attempt to dismiss the quote; can't you do better?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Oh that pesky 10th Amendment.

Great, now we've come full circle to the relevance of my response to Hammster several pages ago that you quoted.

But we can see the intent of the framers. And it certainly wasn’t to dictate what’s the states do concerning religion. Just the opposite.

And the framers gave us a mechanism for altering the Constitution when we have a different intent. Like for all citizens to have due process and equal protection under the law, regardless of their state of residence.

The Equal Protection clause of the 14h Amendment sets some boundaries to what the States can do. It explicitly "prohibits" the states from doing certain things. Thus the ability to establish one religion over another is no longer a power reserved to the states. That power was taken away in 1868 by Amending the Constitution.

 

[HARK!]

The Equal Protection clause of the 14h Amendment sets some boundaries to what the States can do. It explicitly "prohibits" the states from doing certain things. Thus the ability to establish one religion over another is no longer a power reserved to the states. That power was taken away in 1868 by Amending the Constitution.

If that's the way that it works; then I guess that Biden will have to send in armed men (or whatever pronouns he has to back him up) to shut down the schools.

We'll see how that works out; as numerous States are nullifying, and have been nullifying, Federal overreach for about two decades.

″Any and all laws that are in conflict with the Constitution are invalid and of no force or effect.″ (Marbury v. Madison)

Maybe they can work their way there from DC.

Whereas images of the Ten Commandments are found in many Federal buildings across Washington, DC, including in bronze in the floor of the National Archives; in a bronze statue of Moses in the Main Reading Room of the Library of Congress; in numerous locations at the U.S. Supreme Court, including in the frieze above the Justices, the oak door at the rear of the Chamber, the gable apex, and in dozens of locations on the bronze latticework surrounding the Supreme Court Bar seating;

 

[essentialsaltes]

If that's the way that it works; then I guess that Biden will have to send in armed men (or whatever pronouns he has to back him up) to shut down the schools.

Wat

No. The state is being sued, and the Judiciary will sort it out.

Only in the case that the state tries to defy a court decision will we have a situation like Eisenhower calling in the 101st Airborne to ensure that black children can go to public school.

We'll see how that works out; as numerous States are nullifying, and have been nullifying, Federal overreach for about two decades.

″Any and all laws that are in conflict with the Constitution are invalid and of no force or effect.″ (Marbury v. Madison)

That decision came from the same court that said posting the Ten Commandments is unconstitutional.

The Lousiana law is the one that is, on the face of it, null and void by precedent.

Presidents, however, don't pass laws, and can (as of this year) do as they like in their official capacities.

 

[bèlla]

@essentialsaltes

Your deduction is good. You would have excelled at law. ;-)

~bella

 

[HARK!]

The Lousiana law is the one that is, on the face of it, null and void by precedent.

ORLY?

Where in the Constitution did the States concede their right to religious freedom to the Federal Government?