Louisiana classrooms now required by law to display the Ten Commandments

[Hammster]

Just for reference, 10 of the states had established religions when the Constitution was written.

 

[BCP1928]

Just for reference, 10 of the states had established religions when the Constitution was written.

None of them recognized as authentic Christianity by today's right-wing Christians.

 

[Hammster]

None of them recognized as authentic Christianity by today's right-wing Christians.

Not that it’s relevant to the point, but all of them would be.

 

[BCP1928]

Not that it’s relevant to the point, but all of them would be.

If what? What would cause you to change your opinion about them? No, I'm not accusing you of denying their faith. We all know what your opinion is and needn't discuss it explicitly.

 

[Hans Blaster]

I live in the UK, and my little boy attends a secular school where he learns about Jesus, the Bible, and visits our local church for important events like Easter. They also celebrate Christmas with a traditional nativity play, which I appreciate. I think it’s disheartening that schools are choosing cancel these activities. Whether someone is religious or not, they are important aspects of our cultural heritage.

And the UK has a state church and the head of that church just inherited the position from his mummy. Established religion is explicitly forbidden by US law (and monarchs).

 

[essentialsaltes]

Just for reference, 10 of the states had established religions when the Constitution was written.

None of them lasted long. Since then, the 14th Amendment has, in the jurisprudence of more than the last century, incorporated the Bill of Rights so that it applies to the states. Obviously, things like stare decisis are age-old judicial traditions that this new crop of liberal activist Justices are likely to ignore.

 

[jayem]

Just for reference, 10 of the states had established religions when the Constitution was written.

So what? That was 237 years ago. Values and attitudes change.

And for your reference, the Constitution has been amended 27 times.

 

[Hans Blaster]

None of them lasted long. Since then, the 14th Amendment has, in the jurisprudence of more than the last century, incorporated the Bill of Rights so that it applies to the states. Obviously, things like stare decisis are age-old judicial traditions that this new crop of liberal activist Justices are likely to ignore.

Don't you mean illiberal activist judges?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Don't you mean illiberal activist judges?

Just trying to phrase it in a way conservatives should understand.

 

[Hammster]

If what? What would cause you to change your opinion about them? No, I'm not accusing you of denying their faith. We all know what your opinion is and needn't discuss it explicitly.

Then I’m not sure what you’re asking.

 

[Hammster]

None of them lasted long. Since then, the 14th Amendment has, in the jurisprudence of more than the last century, incorporated the Bill of Rights so that it applies to the states. Obviously, things like stare decisis are age-old judicial traditions that this new crop of liberal activist Justices are likely to ignore.

But we can see the intent of the framers. And it certainly wasn’t to dictate what’s the states do concerning religion. Just the opposite.

 

[essentialsaltes]

But we can see the intent of the framers. And it certainly wasn’t to dictate what’s the states do concerning religion. Just the opposite.

And the framers gave us a mechanism for altering the Constitution when we have a different intent. Like for all citizens to have due process and equal protection under the law, regardless of their state of residence.

 

[Sunflower39]

And the UK has a state church and the head of that church just inherited the position from his mummy. Established religion is explicitly forbidden by US law (and monarchs).

We also have state-funded religious schools, mainly Church of England and Roman Catholic…and evidence shows that children in these schools perform better academically than those in secular schools. Based on that, religion in schools is not all that bad. The only reason why I send my son to a secular school is because it’s our nearest school and it’s convenient but when he goes to high school, I’ll send him to a church school.

 

[High Fidelity]

And that uproar would be well justified.

Because it too would be unconstitutional as this is.

 

[BCP1928]

Then I’m not sure what you’re asking.

I'm asking because no one has yet said why that particular version of the Ten Commandments was selected as the 'official' version.

 

[Hammster]

I'm asking because no one has yet said why that particular version of the Ten Commandments was selected as the 'official' version.

I wasn’t in the meeting.

 

[BCP1928]

I wasn’t in the meeting.

Is it the same version used by your own church? Is it Canonical in any church?

 

[seeking.IAM]

I'm asking because no one has yet said why that particular version of the Ten Commandments was selected as the 'official' version.

The predominant Christian expression of Louisiana is Catholic. I believe this is the version from the Catholic catechism. Perhaps one of our Catholic brothers and sisters can check me on that.

The Catholic 10 Commandments - Catechism

 

[iluvatar5150]

Just for reference, 10 of the states had established religions when the Constitution was written.

And they all had slavery.

 

[essentialsaltes]

The predominant Christian expression of Louisiana is Catholic. I believe this is the version from the Catholic catechism. Perhaps one of our Catholic brothers and sisters can check me on that.

The Catholic 10 Commandments - Catechism

It doesn't seem to match either of those in the link.

The Catholic version in the link has no "graven images" but the law does.
The Protestant version has only one covet, but the law has two. That makes it more like the Catholic version, but the law starts with house, whereas the Catholic one from the link says wife.