Louisiana classrooms now required by law to display the Ten Commandments

[HARK!]

Yes, it does.....and it is also counter to a state requirement by law to post Old Testament bible commandments in public school's classroom

No it's not.

 

[HARK!]

We also have state-funded religious schools, mainly Church of England and Roman Catholic…and evidence shows that children in these schools perform better academically than those in secular schools

Awesome!

(CLV) Dt 11:26
See! I am setting before you today blessing and malediction:

(CLV) Dt 11:27
the blessing if you should hearken to the instructions of Yahweh your Elohim that I am enjoining on you today,


Hallelu YAH!

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


You were right. That was easy!

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of a religion

 

[jayem]

It must be Judeochristianity. At least people keep telling me that's a thing: Judeochristian values/morals/cultural heritage, etc.

You are correct, sir. And it is a fact that traditional Christianity in the US is losing adherents. Church attendance is decreasing among the largest denominations--especially Catholicism.

Infographic: The Decline of Christianity in the U.S.

Judaism too is declining. The link is from 2013. Even then, among Jews married after 2005, 58% married non-Jewish spouses.

Chapter 2: Intermarriage and Other Demographics

The religious landscape in the US is changing. Less rules and doctrines. More of a free-form spirituality.

 

[HARK!]

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of a religion

Heep reading!

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;


The US Congress has no authority to prohibit the free exercise of religion.


Let's read on. Here comes the BIGGIE!

or abridging the freedom of speech,

The state officials are not calling for heretics to be burned at the stake with is bill; but these duly elected officials are working for public sentiment to be posted in public buildings.

Why do some Americans fight so hard against free speech and Democracy?

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Heep reading!

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;


The US Congress has no authority to prohibit the free exercise of religion.


Let's read on. Here comes the BIGGIE!

or abridging the freedom of speech,

The state officials are not calling for heretics to be burned at the stake with is bill; but these duly elected officials are working for public sentiment to be posted in public buildings.

Why do some Americans fight so hard against free speech and Democracy?

The government requiring the placement of religious materials in public schools has nothing to do with the free exercise of religion or freedom of speech. And the fact that they're only requiring one specific set of religious materials is explicitly "making a law respecting an establishment of religion."

 

[HARK!]

The government requiring the placement of religious materials in public schools has nothing to do with the free exercise of religion or freedom of speech.

Our Founders would disagree.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Our Founders would disagree.

No, they wouldn't. See, I can make assertions too.

Do you perhaps have an argument of any substance?

 

[HARK!]

No, they wouldn't.

Wrong. Not only would they; but they did.

Do you perhaps have an argument of any substance?

I already presented an argument to that effect.

It seems to have either been ignored, overlooked, or left everyone speechless.

Do you perhaps have something more than bare assertion fallacies?

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Wrong. Not only would they; but they did.

I already presented an argument to that effect.

It seems to have either been ignored, overlooked, or left everyone speechless.

Do you perhaps have something more than bare assertion fallacies?

None of that has anything to do with how mandating that public schools display the ten commandments relates to free speech or free exercise of religion, as you asserted. You could make an argument that a law allowing the display of religious materials (such as the ten commandments) in classrooms would be in the spirit of the second and third clauses of the 1st amendment, but that's not what this law does. Rather, it requires the display of only the ten commandments. Please explain how that does not amount to a "law respecting the establishment of a religion."

 

[HARK!]

None of that has anything to do with how mandating that public schools display the ten commandments relates to free speech or free exercise of religion, as you asserted.

Whereas in 1777, Congress, facing a National shortage of `Bibles for our schools, and families, and for the public worship of God in our churches,' announced that they `desired to have a Bible printed under their care & by their encouragement' and therefore ordered 20,000 copies of the Bible to be imported `into the different ports of the States of the Union';


https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/house-resolution/397/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22HRES+397+IH+111th+CONGRESS%22%5D%7D&r=3&s=2
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.RES.397:

There is a severe Bible shortage in our public schools today. Congress needs to act quickly to appropriate funds to address this national emergency.

 

[Hans Blaster]

There is no such religion, and the question wasn’t addressed to you.

You were just repeating your claim to me to another person.

As for "judeo-christian" it is usually you'se guys who promote constitutional violations like the one in the OP that try to convince the rest of that "judeo-christian" is a thing. Now when it doen't fit your "dozens of judeo-christian religions" narrative you reject it. One religion or two, it is still a very narrow thing that is by no means universal and has no place in a public school.

 

[HARK!]

None of that has anything to do with how mandating that public schools display the ten commandments relates to free speech or free exercise of religion, as you asserted.

Whereas in 1782, Congress pursued a plan to print a Bible that would be `a neat edition of the Holy Scriptures for the use of schools' and therefore approved the production of the first English language Bible printed in America that contained the congressional endorsement that `the United States in Congress assembled . . . recommend this edition of the Bible to the inhabitants of the United States';

The 10 Commandments are in all of my Bibles.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Whereas in 1777, Congress, facing a National shortage of `Bibles for our schools, and families, and for the public worship of God in our churches,' announced that they `desired to have a Bible printed under their care & by their encouragement' and therefore ordered 20,000 copies of the Bible to be imported `into the different ports of the States of the Union';


https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th...arch":["HRES+397+IH+111th+CONGRESS"]}&r=3&s=2
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.RES.397:

Only problem is, that statement is misleading. A legislative committee recommended the action, but it was never voted on. They later endorsed the work of Robert Aitken in printing the first American bible, but likewise did not fund or distribute them.

Did Congress Print the First American Bible?

An episode that reveals the source of one of the hardiest myths of “Christian America” writers.

www.thegospelcoalition.org

 

[Hans Blaster]

The 10 Commandments are in all of my Bibles.

Three times, but that's the point. They are religious in nature and verboten in public schools.

Did anything become of that resolution you posted? I recall someone posting it before, perhaps you.

ETA: No, nothing became of it. It was just a resolution introduced by a few Representatives. It was never even voted on.

 

[HARK!]

None of that has anything to do with how mandating that public schools display the ten commandments relates to free speech or free exercise of religion, as you asserted.

Whereas throughout the American Founding, Congress frequently appropriated money for missionaries and for religious instruction, a practice that Congress repeated for decades after the passage of the Constitution and the First Amendment;

Congress should appropriate more money for missionaries in our schools today. Our educational system is failing.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Congress should appropriate more money for missionaries in our schools today. Our educational system is failing.

How about no. If you want a theocracy, go elsewhere.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

The 10 Commandments are in all of my Bibles.

Again, what does that have to do with how mandating that public schools display the ten commandments relates to free speech or free exercise of religion?

 

[HARK!]

Only problem is, that statement is misleading. A legislative committee recommended the action, but it was never voted on

No one refuted the facts. Perhaps you might attempt that over your bare assertion.

Whereas images of the Ten Commandments are found in many Federal buildings across Washington, DC, including in bronze in the floor of the National Archives; in a bronze statue of Moses in the Main Reading Room of the Library of Congress; in numerous locations at the U.S. Supreme Court, including in the frieze above the Justices, the oak door at the rear of the Chamber, the gable apex, and in dozens of locations on the bronze latticework surrounding the Supreme Court Bar seating;

 

[HARK!]

How about no. If you want a theocracy, go elsewhere.

I didn't call for a Theocracy, nor did the Founders of this Christian nation.

Whereas the United States Supreme Court has declared throughout the course of our Nation's history that the United States is `a Christian country', `a Christian nation', `a Christian people', `a religious people whose institutions presuppose a Supreme Being', and that `we cannot read into the Bill of Rights a philosophy of hostility to religion';

If you don't like it here; you are as free as I am to take your own advice.


God Bless America!