Project 2025 is NOT the Trump plan - do not get mislead

[FenderTL5]

Thanks, but once again, that does not answer the questions I asked. I can see all sorts of stuff Donald approves of in one sentence and rejects in the next, but none of that answers the actual questions I asked. The vagueness underscores the plausible deniability he and his acolytes depend upon.

This is exactly why. The Donald will alter his position on any number of policies depending on who he's speaking to.
One can't commit to what he (Trump) says on any given day, because if one does, in time he will make one a liar.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

People should be looking at this (below) not agenda 2025. Agenda 2025 was put out by the Heritage Foundation not Trump
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47

This thread is not about agenda47. It's about convicted felon Trump denying that he has any knowledge of or knows who are the authors of Project2025. He is lying.

 

[Brihaha]

This is exactly why. The Donald will alter his position on any number of policies depending on who he's speaking to.
One can't commit to what he (Trump) says on any given day, because if one does, in time he will make one a liar.

This rings true. Yet Trump supporters are already on board with endorsing his deceitful rhetoric steeped in lies. By continuing to endorse the man they communicate to others that being a convicted criminal who lies with every breath he speaks is somehow completely acceptable to them. So being caught in a lie probably doesn't bother most of Trump’s supporters at this stage of the hoax. I'm not a licensed psychologist and this is merely my observation.

 

[Pommer]

That sounds a lot like Joe Biden and the leadership of the Democratic Party to me.

“The cult of Biden”?
Really?
What is the visible merch that identifies cult members?

 

[BCP1928]

This rings true. Yet Trump supporters are already on board with endorsing his deceitful rhetoric steeped in lies. By continuing to endorse the man they communicate to others that being a convicted criminal who lies with every breath he speaks is somehow completely acceptable to them. So being caught in a lie probably doesn't bother most of Trump’s supporters at this stage of the hoax. I'm not a licensed psychologist and this is merely my observation.

It's a measure of how badly they want what they think he can give them.

 

[Brihaha]

It's a measure of how badly they want what they think he can give them.

Yet that is the HOAX! Trump is a con artist who is not capable of achieving those feats of heroics. And it's ruining the America I love. It's the only reason I still bother with this forum. Social media is an obstacle to my faith and serenity. I may continue until November if it's meant to be. I'd rather not in all honesty. I feel compelled though. Nowadays I have to put waders on before I come in here to navigate the mucky terrain lol. Reality is whopping people upside the head and they still deny it.

 

[Vambram]

Biden isn't an authoritarian leader. His model of leadership is more like servant leadership than Trump's. He may not be a perfect leader but one shouldn't engage in fallacious thinking that refuses to make distinctions or equivocates.

Trump, as president, boasted many times about how the rules and norms don't apply to him (like shooting people on the street and getting away with it). This is the kind of thing authoritarian leaders do. They don't believe rules are real, or they only apply to other people. They also use threats of violence in place of claims of truth as the basis of their authority.

I see absolutely NOTHING at all in Joe Biden that even comes REMOTELY close to servant leadership. I also see an authoritarian Democratic Party that has been targeting their political opponents with the weaponization of the DOJ and the constant authoritarian lawfare used against conservatives.

 

[BPPLEE]

Yet that is the HOAX! Trump is a con artist who is not capable of achieving those feats of heroics. And it's ruining the America I love. It's the only reason I still bother with this forum. Social media is an obstacle to my faith and serenity. I may continue until November if it's meant to be. I'd rather not in all honesty. I feel compelled though. Nowadays I have to put waders on before I come in here to navigate the mucky terrain lol. Reality is whopping people upside the head and they still deny it.

Kind of like they have been denying for the last four years that there is something wrong with Biden?
It was all right wing propaganda, selectively edited clips that were deceitful and deep fake or cheap fake videos. Remember? It was just two weeks ago

 

[Brihaha]

Kind of like they have been denying for the last four years that there is something wrong with Biden?
It was all right wing propaganda, selectively edited clips that were deceitful and deep fake or cheap fake videos. Remember? It was just two weeks ago

Biden's maladies are not the point. The point seems to be a majority of Americans would prefer any form of Joe Biden to another Trump term in office. This is what republicans keep ignoring throughout the last several elections. Donald Trump has forced himself upon the republican party and the rest of America because the party is bereft of competent, strong leadership.

 

[BPPLEE]

Biden's maladies are not the point. The point seems to be a majority of Americans would prefer any form of Joe Biden to another Trump term in office. This is what republicans keep ignoring throughout the last several elections. Donald Trump has forced himself upon the republican party and the rest of America because the party is bereft of competent, strong leadership.

A majority? I doubt that

 

[Brihaha]

A majority? I doubt that

Why? These are established facts. A majority of Americans voted for Hillary.
A larger majority voted for Biden. Why the irresistible urge to deny reality? Maybe your perception is incorrect and Donald Trump really is that repulsive to a majority of Americans (and the world for that matter). Search deep within to discover why you feel the compunction to deceive yourself. I believe you deserve to treat yourself better than that. Then again I like to accentuate the positives rather than dwell on the negative. Peace

 

[BPPLEE]

Why? These are established facts. A majority of Americans voted for Hillary.
A larger majority voted for Biden. Why the irresistible urge to deny reality? Maybe your perception is incorrect and Donald Trump really is that repulsive to a majority of Americans (and the world for that matter). Search deep within to discover why you feel the compunction to deceive yourself. I believe you deserve to treat yourself better than that. Then again I like to accentuate the positives rather than dwell on the negative. Peace

It’s possible that Biden could win the popular vote, get a majority and still lose the election, like Hillary did.
But I think you need to accept the number of people who have no confidence in Biden.
His press conference didn’t help

 

[Brihaha]

It’s possible that Biden could win the popular vote, get a majority and still lose the election, like Hillary did.
But I think you need to accept the number of people who have no confidence in Biden.
His press conference didn’t help

Yes, I can accept that fact. I am one who lacks confidence in him. It all seems more and more like a stage performance to me presently. And not a particularly good performance haha. Biden may be stubborn, but he may be right. Kamala could face more obstacles than Joe in a general election against Donald Trump. He's put his party in a tight spot though. I'll let them sort it out. I'm not exactly a huge fan of the President's party either. I'll probably vote though because I feel obligated as a citizen who has a tendency to complain about the government occasionally.

 

[Bradskii]

Please read through all of that article and you may see why Trump distanced himself from Project 2025.

How on earth can you say that? This has been quoted at least 3 times:

'they’re going to lay the groundwork and detail plans for exactly what our movement will do...'

 

[Bradskii]

Hey liberals , hey conservatives . THEY DONT care about you , about me , or humanity .
That is a fact . They are simply pandering to ya to create a system FOR THEM .

Down the corridor, hang a right, and It's the second...no, the third door on the left. The Conspiracy Section is looking for new members. You'll feel right at home there.

 

[BPPLEE]

Yes, I can accept that fact. I am one who lacks confidence in him. It all seems more and more like a stage performance to me presently. And not a particularly good performance haha. Biden may be stubborn, but he may be right. Kamala could face more obstacles than Joe in a general election against Donald Trump. He's put his party in a tight spot though. I'll let them sort it out. I'm not exactly a huge fan of the President's party either. I'll probably vote though because I feel obligated as a citizen who has a tendency to complain about the government occasionally.

I did not support Trump in the primary and when it looked like he was going to be the nominee I said he had no chance of winning the general election.
But things have changed.

 

[Bradskii]

I did not support Trump in the primary and when it looked like he was going to be the nominee I said he had no chance of winning the general election.
But things have changed.

You only vote for people that you think can win?

 

[rturner76]

For everything that you believe Trump has lied about, I could point you over to at least double the amount of times Joe Biden has lied and also told half-truths. In my opinion, Joe Biden has lied more often than any other POTUS in recent memory.

Prove it.

Trump's false or misleading claims total 30573 over 4 years​

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/

False or misleading statements by Donald Trump​

False or misleading statements by Donald Trump - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Opinion | President Trump's Lies, the Definitive List​

Opinion | President Trump’s Lies, the Definitive List (Published 2017)

We have catalogued nearly every outright lie the president has told publicly since taking the oath of office.

www.nytimes.com

I'm sure Biden lies like all politicians but Trump tells so many lies that news source after news source, and fact-checking site after fact-checking site lists the thousands of lies Trump told.

The AP stated that "Biden, who tends to lean more on exaggerations and embellishments rather than outright lies"

Here's a look at some of the false claims made during Biden and Trump's first debate

The Associated Press examines false and misleading statements made by Donald Trump and Joe Biden as they prepare to face off in the Election 2024 presidential debate.

apnews.com

Have you ever really researched the massive number of lies that Trump has told (and tells)? I doubt it because it's just "Left Wing media vilifying him" right? People have bought into his lies so deeply that they can no longer tell when they hear the truth or a lie. It seems that Trump supporters will support him no matter what he has done. Rape, sexual harassment, cheating on taxes, steal labor from contractors, etc like character/integrity has nothing to do with getting elected.

 

[BPPLEE]

You only vote for people that you think can win?

No, I said I would vote for the Republican nominee. I thought he had no chance of winning the general election

 

[Vambram]

Prove it.

Trump's false or misleading claims total 30573 over 4 years​

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/

False or misleading statements by Donald Trump​

False or misleading statements by Donald Trump - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Opinion | President Trump's Lies, the Definitive List​

Opinion | President Trump’s Lies, the Definitive List (Published 2017)

We have catalogued nearly every outright lie the president has told publicly since taking the oath of office.

www.nytimes.com

I'm sure Biden lies like all politicians but Trump tells so many lies that news source after news source, and fact-checking site after fact-checking site lists the thousands of lies Trump told.

The AP stated that "Biden, who tends to lean more on exaggerations and embellishments rather than outright lies"

Here's a look at some of the false claims made during Biden and Trump's first debate

The Associated Press examines false and misleading statements made by Donald Trump and Joe Biden as they prepare to face off in the Election 2024 presidential debate.

apnews.com

Have you ever really researched the massive number of lies that Trump has told (and tells)? I doubt it because it's just "Left Wing media vilifying him" right? People have bought into his lies so deeply that they can no longer tell when they hear the truth or a lie. It seems that Trump supporters will support him no matter what he has done. Rape, sexual harassment, cheating on taxes, steal labor from contractors, etc like character/integrity has nothing to do with getting elected.

NY Times, the Washington Post, and the AP News are among the most far left wing fake news sources on the internet, in my opinion.