Exodus evidence (part 2 updated)

[Ace777]

That's not a flood, it is a sea. Also, look up "uplift".

Some people see a connection between Pangea and Noah's flood. If you don't you don't. Why would I care to indulge in negatives? We need to have a positive attitude in life. It makes even less sense that you would challenge me to prove you wrong. That would indicate to me that you are not sure of what you believe. You need to do all your own research and arrive at your own conclusions. You do not need me for that.

 

[AV1611VET]

Some people see a connection between Pangea and Noah's flood. If you don't you don't. Why would I care to indulge in negatives? We need to have a positive attitude in life. It makes even less sense that you would challenge me to prove you wrong. That would indicate to me that you are not sure of what you believe. You need to do all your own research and arrive at your own conclusions. You do not need me for that.

I love this song:

My faith has found a resting place,
Not in device or creed;
I trust the ever living One,
His wounds for me shall plead.
I need no other argument,
I need no other plea,
It is enough that Jesus died,
And that He died for me.

- My Faith Has Found A Resting Place

 

[sjastro]

Exodus causes later Egyptian loanwords? Or did this happen other times as well that Egyptian loanwords happened?

Exodus wasn't the cause, Egyptian loanwords in the Semitic language was accelerated by the Egypt's 18th dynasty's military expansion into the Levant.
Prior to this the Hyksos a Semitic speaking people who conquered most of Egypt formed the 16th dynasty; their name is an Egyptian loanword "ḥqꜣ-ḫꜣswt" meaning rulers of a foreign land.
In fact it was the Egyptians who used many Hyksos loanwords such as these.

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@sjastro you wrote, "Another problem with the Exodus if the Hebrews were in Egypt for 430 years before escaping and having been subjected to enslavement and cultural destruction how did their Semitic language survive?"

My thinking wondering?
How similar was Semitic to either Sanskrit or German?
Because I thought Sanskrit language went eastward while Germanic language went westward?

What is Semitic language I'll look online
What are the 7 Semitic languages?

The Semitic language family consists of dozens of distinct languages and modern day dialects, but the major Semitic languages are Arabic, Amharic (spoken in Ethiopia), Tigrinya (spoken in Ethiopia and Eritrea), Hebrew, Tigre (spoken in Sudan), Aramaic (spoken in Lebanon, Syria, Israel, Iraq and Iran) and Maltese.

All In The Language Family: The Semitic Languages - Babbel​

I doubt there is much similarity between Semitic to either Sanskrit or German as Semitic is part of the Afroasiatic language tree.

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Sanskrit and German are from the Indo-European language tree.

 

[Occams Barber]

Some people see a connection between Pangea and Noah's flood. If you don't you don't. Why would I care to indulge in negatives? We need to have a positive attitude in life. It makes even less sense that you would challenge me to prove you wrong. That would indicate to me that you are not sure of what you believe. You need to do all your own research and arrive at your own conclusions. You do not need me for that.

This is the Encyclopedia Britannica entry for Pangea. It describes Pangea as a 'super continent' which existed some 300 million years ago.

As you can see from the map below (from Wikipedia) Pangea comprised most of the continents we're now familiar with. Pangea started to break up around 200 million years ago as the continents drifted to their current position propelled by tectonic plate movement.

There was no flood involved.

Pangea, in early geologic time, a supercontinent that incorporated almost all the landmasses on Earth. Pangea was surrounded by a global ocean called Panthalassa, and it was fully assembled by the Early Permian Epoch (some 299 million to about 273 million years ago). The supercontinent began to break apart about 200 million years ago, during the Early Jurassic Epoch (201 million to 174 million years ago), eventually forming the modern continents and the Atlantic and Indian oceans.​

Pangea | Definition, Map, History, & Facts | Britannica

Pangea, supercontinent that incorporated almost all of Earth’s landmasses in early geologic time. Fully assembled by the Early Permian Epoch (some 299 million to about 273 million years ago), it began to break apart about 200 million years ago, eventually forming the modern continents and the...

www.britannica.com

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[Hans Blaster]

Some people see a connection between Pangea and Noah's flood. If you don't you don't. Why would I care to indulge in negatives?

It's not about positives or negatives, it's about facts. You literally posted:

"100 million years ago the entire state of Colorado and much of middle North America was submerged under the Western Interior seaway. This flooding left behind large amounts of sedimentary deposits, like the Pierre Shale and Fox Hills Formation (sandstone)."

In post #77 mentioning the "Western Interior Seaway" which is not a flood, but a shallow inland sea that lasted for millions of years

Western Interior Seaway - Wikipedia

The Fox Hills formation you mention also has a page:

Fox Hills Formation - Wikipedia

which is literally the opposite of a flood as it comes from a series of barrier islands as the sea retreated.

"It was deposited as a regressive sequence of barrier islands during the retreat of the Western Interior Seaway in Late Cretaceous time."

We need to have a positive attitude in life. It makes even less sense that you would challenge me to prove you wrong. That would indicate to me that you are not sure of what you believe. You need to do all your own research and arrive at your own conclusions. You do not need me for that.

Attitude and belief are irrelevant to this. It is about facts and data.

 

[Ace777]

"100 million years ago the entire state of Colorado and much of middle North America was submerged under the Western Interior seaway. This flooding left behind large amounts of sedimentary deposits, like the Pierre Shale and Fox Hills Formation (sandstone)."

Did I give you the link for this? That should explain what you want to know.

Geology of Rocky Mountain National Park

The creation of Rocky Mountain National Park has been over a billion years in the making!

www.usgs.gov

 

[Astrid]

That's not a flood, it is a sea. Also, look up "uplift".

And " facile".

 

[Astrid]

Some people see a connection between Pangea and Noah's flood. If you don't you don't. Why would I care to indulge in negatives? We need to have a positive attitude in life. It makes even less sense that you would challenge me to prove you wrong. That would indicate to me that you are not sure of what you believe. You need to do all your own research and arrive at your own conclusions. You do not need me for that.

Why are you in a debate forum about science?

 

[Hans Blaster]

Did I give you the link for this? That should explain what you want to know.

Geology of Rocky Mountain National Park

The creation of Rocky Mountain National Park has been over a billion years in the making!

www.usgs.gov

I already know these things. This makes no claim that the Colorado Plateau is a flood deposit.

I don't know what you are doing here other than quoting vague creationist claims and then not engaging with defending them relative to established scientific results.

 

[Ace777]

I already know these things. This makes no claim that the Colorado Plateau is a flood deposit.

It is a quote from that link. I have NOTHING more to say about it.

not engaging with defending them

I just do not see any reason to defend anything. It does not look like it would accomplish anything. And I really do not care what people believe or think. It has nothing to do with me and my life.

 

[Hans Blaster]

It is a quote from that link. I have NOTHING more to say about it.


I just do not see any reason to defend anything. It does not look like it would accomplish anything. And I really do not care what people believe or think. It has nothing to do with me and my life.

What are you doing here then?

 

[Astrid]

It is a quote from that link. I have NOTHING more to say about it.


I just do not see any reason to defend anything. It does not look like it would accomplish anything. And I really do not care what people believe or think. It has nothing to do with me and my life.

I think that is the most anti intellectual thing I ever heard.

 

[Hans Blaster]

I think that is the most anti intellectual thing I ever heard.

At least from posters with out "1611" in their username. (I expect a ghost poster to crow about this, but I shall not see it.)

 

[AV1611VET]

I think that is the most anti intellectual thing I ever heard.

Welcome to the world of faith.

We need no other argument,
We need no other plea.

It is enough that Jesus died,
And that He died for me.

 

[AV1611VET]

At least from posters with out "1611" in their username. (I expect a ghost poster to crow about this, but I shall not see it.)

Ya -- you might read something you never thought of before.

 

[Astrid]

At least from posters with out "1611" in their username. (I expect a ghost poster to crow about this, but I shall not see it.)

It would be a fine thing if those with neither learning,,
nor interest, nor any capacity to contribute would
just have to simple- possibly Christian, even-
decency or self respect to stay out.

 

[Ace777]

I think that is the most anti intellectual thing I ever heard.

Great, wonderful I am glad I am the most of something in your book.

 

[AV1611VET]

It would be a fine thing if those with neither learning, nor interest, nor any capacity to contribute ...

How would you know that, if I'm on IGNORE?

Also, how do you know I'm not contributing, if you don't understand what it is I'm contributing?

... would just have to simple - possibly Christian, even - decency or self respect to stay out.

If you want me to show decency and self-respect, learn what decency and self-respect are.

 

[Ace777]

It would be a fine thing if those with neither learning,,h
nor interest, nor any capacity to contribute would
just have to simple- possibly Christian, even-
decency or self respect to stay out.

Nothing is impossible for God. WE can ALL be washed and cleansed in the Precious Blood of Jesus.
There is wonder working power in the Blood of the Lamb of God. He was humble in all of His ways.
Except maybe when He had to deal with the Money Changers that Polluted the Temple.
But that was just righteous indignation.

 

[Astrid]

Nothing is impossible for God. WE can ALL be washed and cleansed in the Precious Blood of Jesus.
There is wonder working power in the Blood of the Lamb of God. He was humble in all of His ways.
Except maybe when He had to deal with the Money Changers that Polluted the Temple.
But that was just righteous indignation.

Could you, Please, read the statement of
purpose for this, the PHYSICAL SCIENCE forum, and abide by it?