Project 2025 is NOT the Trump plan - do not get mislead

[essentialsaltes]

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"the problem for Trump is that he’s full of all of these contradictions. He’s kind of a tabula rasa on policy."

The Heritage Foundation has been uniquely successful in writing on that blank slate.

Trump at yesterday's Florida rally

And I didn’t want to be obnoxious because I felt it was the first time I’d ever done this. And what? I didn’t even know what the [heck] NATO was too much before, but it didn’t take me long to figure it out. Like about two minutes.

 

[Always in His Presence]

If Trump wants to distance himself from them, I hope the convention center is really really big.

Ooh. They gave a donation.

 

[Always in His Presence]

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Trump at yesterday's Florida rally

And I didn’t want to be obnoxious because I felt it was the first time I’d ever done this. And what? I didn’t even know what the [heck] NATO was too much before, but it didn’t take me long to figure it out. Like about two minutes.

Can we stay to the topic of the thread please. I know you like quoting your own posts - but it doesn't add to the veracity of the post - nor does it prove Trump and the RNC are connected with 2025

Wow! there a whole lot of juxtaposing animosity, hearsay and innuendo's here - just no proof.

 

[JustOneWay]

https://www.axios.com/2024/07/10/trump-undecided-voters-plan-election-2024

In this article from Axios.com, there is a good analysis of Project 2025, the RNC platform, and Donald Trump.

1. SEAL THE BORDER, AND STOP THE MIGRANT INVASION
2. CARRY OUT THE LARGEST DEPORTATION OPERATION IN AMERICAN HISTORY
3. END INFLATION, AND MAKE AMERICA AFFORDABLE AGAIN
4. MAKE AMERICA THE DOMINANT ENERGY PRODUCER IN THE WORLD, BY FAR!
5. STOP OUTSOURCING, AND TURN THE UNITED STATES INTO A MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER
6. LARGE TAX CUTS FOR WORKERS, AND NO TAX ON TIPS!
7. DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION, OUR BILL OF RIGHTS, AND OUR FUNDAMENTAL FREEDOMS, INCLUDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM OF RELIGION, AND THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS
8. PREVENT WORLD WAR THREE, RESTORE PEACE IN EUROPE AND IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AND BUILD A GREAT IRON DOME MISSILE DEFENSE SHIELD OVER OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY -- ALL MADE IN AMERICA
9. END THE WEAPONIZATION OF GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
10. STOP THE MIGRANT CRIME EPIDEMIC, DEMOLISH THE FOREIGN DRUG CARTELS, CRUSH GANG VIOLENCE, AND LOCK UP VIOLENT OFFENDERS
11. REBUILD OUR CITIES, INCLUDING WASHINGTON DC, MAKING THEM SAFE, CLEAN, AND BEAUTIFUL AGAIN.
12. STRENGTHEN AND MODERNIZE OUR MILITARY, MAKING IT, WITHOUT QUESTION, THE STRONGEST AND MOST POWERFUL IN THE WORLD
13. KEEP THE U.S. DOLLAR AS THE WORLD’S RESERVE CURRENCY
14. FIGHT FOR AND PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE WITH NO CUTS, INCLUDING NO CHANGES TO THE RETIREMENT AGE
15. CANCEL THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE MANDATE AND CUT COSTLY AND BURDENSOME REGULATIONS
16. CUT FEDERAL FUNDING FOR ANY SCHOOL PUSHING CRITICAL RACE THEORY, RADICAL GENDER IDEOLOGY, AND OTHER INAPPROPRIATE RACIAL, SEXUAL, OR POLITICAL CONTENT ON OUR CHILDREN
17. KEEP MEN OUT OF WOMEN’S SPORTS
18. DEPORT PRO-HAMAS RADICALS AND MAKE OUR COLLEGE CAMPUSES SAFE AND PATRIOTIC AGAIN
19. SECURE OUR ELECTIONS, INCLUDING SAME DAY VOTING, VOTER IDENTIFICATION, PAPER BALLOTS, AND PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP
20. UNITE OUR COUNTRY BY BRINGING IT TO NEW AND RECORD LEVELS OF SUCCESS

This looks like a child wrote this.
This is not a plan. It is campaign promise list. There are no details. Keep men out of women's sports. There's a winner....

 

[Vambram]

1. SEAL THE BORDER, AND STOP THE MIGRANT INVASION
2. CARRY OUT THE LARGEST DEPORTATION OPERATION IN AMERICAN HISTORY
3. END INFLATION, AND MAKE AMERICA AFFORDABLE AGAIN
4. MAKE AMERICA THE DOMINANT ENERGY PRODUCER IN THE WORLD, BY FAR!
5. STOP OUTSOURCING, AND TURN THE UNITED STATES INTO A MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER
6. LARGE TAX CUTS FOR WORKERS, AND NO TAX ON TIPS!
7. DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION, OUR BILL OF RIGHTS, AND OUR FUNDAMENTAL FREEDOMS, INCLUDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM OF RELIGION, AND THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS
8. PREVENT WORLD WAR THREE, RESTORE PEACE IN EUROPE AND IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AND BUILD A GREAT IRON DOME MISSILE DEFENSE SHIELD OVER OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY -- ALL MADE IN AMERICA
9. END THE WEAPONIZATION OF GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
10. STOP THE MIGRANT CRIME EPIDEMIC, DEMOLISH THE FOREIGN DRUG CARTELS, CRUSH GANG VIOLENCE, AND LOCK UP VIOLENT OFFENDERS
11. REBUILD OUR CITIES, INCLUDING WASHINGTON DC, MAKING THEM SAFE, CLEAN, AND BEAUTIFUL AGAIN.
12. STRENGTHEN AND MODERNIZE OUR MILITARY, MAKING IT, WITHOUT QUESTION, THE STRONGEST AND MOST POWERFUL IN THE WORLD
13. KEEP THE U.S. DOLLAR AS THE WORLD’S RESERVE CURRENCY
14. FIGHT FOR AND PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE WITH NO CUTS, INCLUDING NO CHANGES TO THE RETIREMENT AGE
15. CANCEL THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE MANDATE AND CUT COSTLY AND BURDENSOME REGULATIONS
16. CUT FEDERAL FUNDING FOR ANY SCHOOL PUSHING CRITICAL RACE THEORY, RADICAL GENDER IDEOLOGY, AND OTHER INAPPROPRIATE RACIAL, SEXUAL, OR POLITICAL CONTENT ON OUR CHILDREN
17. KEEP MEN OUT OF WOMEN’S SPORTS
18. DEPORT PRO-HAMAS RADICALS AND MAKE OUR COLLEGE CAMPUSES SAFE AND PATRIOTIC AGAIN
19. SECURE OUR ELECTIONS, INCLUDING SAME DAY VOTING, VOTER IDENTIFICATION, PAPER BALLOTS, AND PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP
20. UNITE OUR COUNTRY BY BRINGING IT TO NEW AND RECORD LEVELS OF SUCCESS

This looks like a child wrote this.
This is not a plan. It is campaign promise list. There are no details. Keep men out of women's sports. There's a winner....

Which ones of those 20 points do you disagree with?

 

[Tropical Wilds]

“I know nothing about Project 2025,” Trump posted on his social media website. “I have no idea who is behind it. I disagree with some of the things they’re saying and some of the things they’re saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal. Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have nothing to do with them.”

Trump Disavows Project 2025 Transition Plan

Donald Trump distanced himself Friday from Project 2025, a massive proposed overhaul of the federal government.

time.com

Trump has outlined his own plans to remake the government if he wins a second term, including staging the largest deportation operation in U.S. history and imposing tariffs on potentially all imports. His campaign has previously warned outside allies not to presume to speak for the former president and suggested their transition-in-waiting efforts were unhelpful.

You can also plainly see that the Project 2025 is not from the Trump Campaign nor is it from the Republican National Convention. Nor is Project 2025 endorsed by Trump nor the Republican Party.

It is the result of a think tank and not even all it's members agree with it.

Advisory Board | Project 2025

GET INVOLVED Does your organization want to join us in the fight for our country? Join Us

www.project2025.org

Project 2025, organized by The Heritage Foundation, is a movement-wide effort guided by the conservative cause to address and reform the failings of big government and an undemocratic administrative state. The opinions of Project 2025 and The Heritage Foundation do not necessarily represent the opinions of every one of its advisory board partners.​

Please - let's be intellectually honest .

I’m not falling for it. He didn’t fool me in 2016, he didn’t fool me in 2020, and he certainly won’t fool me in 2024 or 2025 into voting for him.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Ooh. They gave a donation.

The official sponsorship demonstrates the mainstream acceptability within the GOP of the Heritage Foundation and its ideas (such as those embodied in its Project 2025).

I'm almost 100% sure that a neo-Nazi group with a neo-Nazi manifesto for 2025 would have its sponsorship of the convention rejected.

 

[ozso]

1. SEAL THE BORDER, AND STOP THE MIGRANT INVASION
2. CARRY OUT THE LARGEST DEPORTATION OPERATION IN AMERICAN HISTORY
3. END INFLATION, AND MAKE AMERICA AFFORDABLE AGAIN
4. MAKE AMERICA THE DOMINANT ENERGY PRODUCER IN THE WORLD, BY FAR!
5. STOP OUTSOURCING, AND TURN THE UNITED STATES INTO A MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER
6. LARGE TAX CUTS FOR WORKERS, AND NO TAX ON TIPS!
7. DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION, OUR BILL OF RIGHTS, AND OUR FUNDAMENTAL FREEDOMS, INCLUDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM OF RELIGION, AND THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS
8. PREVENT WORLD WAR THREE, RESTORE PEACE IN EUROPE AND IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AND BUILD A GREAT IRON DOME MISSILE DEFENSE SHIELD OVER OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY -- ALL MADE IN AMERICA
9. END THE WEAPONIZATION OF GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
10. STOP THE MIGRANT CRIME EPIDEMIC, DEMOLISH THE FOREIGN DRUG CARTELS, CRUSH GANG VIOLENCE, AND LOCK UP VIOLENT OFFENDERS
11. REBUILD OUR CITIES, INCLUDING WASHINGTON DC, MAKING THEM SAFE, CLEAN, AND BEAUTIFUL AGAIN.
12. STRENGTHEN AND MODERNIZE OUR MILITARY, MAKING IT, WITHOUT QUESTION, THE STRONGEST AND MOST POWERFUL IN THE WORLD
13. KEEP THE U.S. DOLLAR AS THE WORLD’S RESERVE CURRENCY
14. FIGHT FOR AND PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE WITH NO CUTS, INCLUDING NO CHANGES TO THE RETIREMENT AGE
15. CANCEL THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE MANDATE AND CUT COSTLY AND BURDENSOME REGULATIONS
16. CUT FEDERAL FUNDING FOR ANY SCHOOL PUSHING CRITICAL RACE THEORY, RADICAL GENDER IDEOLOGY, AND OTHER INAPPROPRIATE RACIAL, SEXUAL, OR POLITICAL CONTENT ON OUR CHILDREN
17. KEEP MEN OUT OF WOMEN’S SPORTS
18. DEPORT PRO-HAMAS RADICALS AND MAKE OUR COLLEGE CAMPUSES SAFE AND PATRIOTIC AGAIN
19. SECURE OUR ELECTIONS, INCLUDING SAME DAY VOTING, VOTER IDENTIFICATION, PAPER BALLOTS, AND PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP
20. UNITE OUR COUNTRY BY BRINGING IT TO NEW AND RECORD LEVELS OF SUCCESS

This looks like a child wrote this.
This is not a plan. It is campaign promise list. There are no details.

It's a list of stated goals. When JFK said he wanted a moon landing within the decade, he didn't follow that up with the details of how it would be accomplished. The goal was set and then the legwork on achieving it began.

Keep men out of women's sports. There's a winner....

Indeed, along with keeping them out of women's private spaces, women's public restrooms, and out of women's penitentiaries.

 

[JustOneWay]

Which ones of those 20 points do you disagree with?

They are not points. It is a list of grievances.

 

[ozso]

Which ones of those 20 points do you disagree with?

That's what I'm waiting for. So far it's just been the usual "this is bad" rhetoric.

 

[Vambram]

They are not points. It is a list of grievances.

I see here just another post of liberal dismissal instead of an interesting answer.

 

[ozso]

They are not points. It is a list of grievances.

Do you have anything of more substance to offer than generalized carping wisecracks?

 

[Always in His Presence]

The official sponsorship demonstrates the mainstream acceptability within the GOP of the Heritage Foundation and its ideas (such as those embodied in its Project 2025).

Acceptability does not mean endorsement - we can review this 100 times - and you can post your reasoning 150 times - I'm looking for actual facts - and there are none but the Candidates and organization open statements they are not part of 2025 - nor do they accept them as policy.

It is that plain and simple. I could be wrong, but didn't you actually link to the 16 page roll out from Donald Trumps own website just a couple days ago?

So, which is it? The one you linked from Donald Trumps website that has his endorsement or the one from Project 2025 that he doesn't endorse or support - in fact the Project 2025 website states not all over their members agree.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Do you have anything of more substance to offer than generalized carping wisecracks?

FIGHT FOR AND PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE WITH NO CUTS, INCLUDING NO CHANGES TO THE RETIREMENT AGE

Given the projections that the SS Trust Fund will run out of money in a decade or so, resulting in a shortfall where incoming funds will only cover 83% of obligations, how will the Trump Administration achieve 100% funding for these programs without any benefit cuts?

I notice there is no mention of the federal debt. Will Social Security be funded in the future on additional debt left to our descendants?

 

[Always in His Presence]

FIGHT FOR AND PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE WITH NO CUTS, INCLUDING NO CHANGES TO THE RETIREMENT AGE

Given the projections that the SS Trust Fund will run out of money in a decade or so, resulting in a shortfall where incoming funds will only cover 83% of obligations, how will the Trump Administration achieve 100% funding for these programs without any benefit cuts?

I notice there is no mention of the federal debt. Will Social Security be funded in the future on additional debt left to our descendants?

you should open a thread on it =

Please again - do not derail this thread - the topic of the thread is plainly stated numerous times.

 

[ralliann]

Trump wants to distance himself from far-right Project 2025 plan while his PAC pushes ads promoting it​

Meanwhile, the chief political action committee supporting Trump has been running online ads promoting Project 2025, explicitly calling it “Trump’s Project 2025.”


The judicial system ruled that Trump committed fraud and lied. He lied to the courts. He has no credibility and for all we know that he is lying about this too.

Oh that was just project lawfare 2024, LOL. That is hopefully winding down

 

[ozso]

FIGHT FOR AND PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE WITH NO CUTS, INCLUDING NO CHANGES TO THE RETIREMENT AGE

Given the projections that the SS Trust Fund will run out of money in a decade or so, resulting in a shortfall where incoming funds will only cover 83% of obligations, how will the Trump Administration achieve 100% funding for these programs without any benefit cuts?

I notice there is no mention of the federal debt. Will Social Security be funded in the future on additional debt left to our descendants?

How far have you looked for details? As for funding what I'm supposed to be getting in 5 years after paying into it for 50 years, there's trillions of dollars spent on other stuff like Biden's $1.4 Trillion student loan scheme. Or the mega billions that gets shelled out as welfare money to other countries. And however much money is being shelled out to illegal invaders claiming to be refugees etc etc. There's probably enough trillions being flushed to be able to pay retired 67 year olds at least $5000 a month for the rest of their life.

 

[ozso]

you should open a thread on it =

Please again - do not derail this thread - the topic of the thread is plainly stated numerous times.

Good point. We should be discussing how these are the ideas of a non-government private foundation, and not ideas being posted by Trump or the RNC.

 

[JustOneWay]

Indeed, along with keeping them out of women's private spaces, women's public restrooms, and out of women's penitentiaries.

If only this would include men also getting out of controlling women's reproductive rights.

 

[ozso]

If only this would include men also getting out of controlling women's reproductive rights.