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Are Protestants allowed to receive the Catholic Eucharist?

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1 Cor 11:

23 For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took bread, 24and when he had given thanks,
Strong's Greek: 2168. εὐχαριστέω (eucharisteó) — 38 Occurrences

The English term *Eucharist" comes from G2168.

he broke it, and said, “This is my body, which is forf you. Do this in remembrance of me.”
Are Protestants allowed to receive the Catholic Eucharist?

Catholics believe in transubstantiation. If you don't, you are not a member of the Catholic Church. Officially, you are not allowed to participate in the Catholic Eucharist. Canon Law 844 §1:

Catholic ministers administer the sacraments licitly to Catholic members of the Christian faithful alone.
 

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1 Cor 11:


Strong's Greek: 2168. εὐχαριστέω (eucharisteó) — 38 Occurrences

The English term *Eucharist" comes from G2168.


Are Protestants allowed to receive the Catholic Eucharist?

Catholics believe in transubstantiation. If you don't, you are not a member of the Catholic Church. Officially, you are not allowed to participate in the Catholic Eucharist. Canon Law 844 §1:
ROMAN Catholics? I would not think so. Orthodox definitely not.
 
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1 Cor 11:


Strong's Greek: 2168. εὐχαριστέω (eucharisteó) — 38 Occurrences

The English term *Eucharist" comes from G2168.


Are Protestants allowed to receive the Catholic Eucharist?

Catholics believe in transubstantiation. If you don't, you are not a member of the Catholic Church. Officially, you are not allowed to participate in the Catholic Eucharist. Canon Law 844 §1:

On the Eucharist, from the Didache:

But let no one eat or drink of your Thanksgiving (Eucharist), but they who have been baptized into the name of the Lord; for concerning this also the Lord has said, Give not that which is holy to the dogs.

As Paul said:

1Co 11:27 Therefore whoever eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

1Co 11:29 For he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
 
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1 Cor 11:


Strong's Greek: 2168. εὐχαριστέω (eucharisteó) — 38 Occurrences

The English term *Eucharist" comes from G2168.


Are Protestants allowed to receive the Catholic Eucharist?

Catholics believe in transubstantiation. If you don't, you are not a member of the Catholic Church. Officially, you are not allowed to participate in the Catholic Eucharist. Canon Law 844 §1:
Sorry, but why would a Protestant wish to participate in a Roman Catholic Eucharist?
 
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Sorry, but why would a Protestant wish to participate in a Roman Catholic Eucharist?
For the same reason we might wish to participate in communion in any church.

I know what Catholic canon law says. For that reason, I generally don't go to Catholic communion services, or go forward for communion if I am at one. Occasionally I have been to one where the priest has made it clear his intention is to keep an open table, at least to non-Catholic Christians, at which point I receive with others and figure it's between him and his bishop to sort that out.
 
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For the same reason we might wish to participate in communion in any church.

I know what Catholic canon law says. For that reason, I generally don't go to Catholic communion services, or go forward for communion if I am at one. Occasionally I have been to one where the priest has made it clear his intention is to keep an open table, at least to non-Catholic Christians, at which point I receive with others and figure it's between him and his bishop to sort that out.
What I meant was, not what the Roman Catholic church will or will not allow, but the different meaning given to a Roman Catholic mass (a sacrifice) compared with a Protestant Communion service or Lord's Supper (a remembrance).
 
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What I meant was, not what the Roman Catholic church will or will not allow, but the different meaning given to a Roman Catholic mass (a sacrifice) compared with a Protestant Communion service or Lord's Supper (a remembrance).
As an Anglican, I see it as neither a sacrifice nor a remembrance, but as an encounter with the real presence of Christ.
 
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As an Anglican, I see it as neither a sacrifice nor a remembrance, but as an encounter with the real presence of Christ.
But Jesus Himself said it was to be done "in remembrance of" Him. Also, when He promised to be with His followers, He didn't say anything about being especially present in the Lord's Supper/Communion.
 
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But Jesus Himself said it was to be done "in remembrance of" Him. Also, when He promised to be with His followers, He didn't say anything about being especially present in the Lord's Supper/Communion.
You might say that. My point is that Protestants do not all share your particular view. And I see it as essentially no different in a Catholic celebration than one in my own church.
 
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What I meant was, not what the Roman Catholic church will or will not allow, but the different meaning given to a Roman Catholic mass (a sacrifice) compared with a Protestant Communion service or Lord's Supper (a remembrance).

Numbers 10:10 On the day of your gladness also, and at your appointed feasts, and at the beginnings of your months, you shall blow the trumpets over your burnt offerings and over the sacrifices of your peace offerings; they shall serve you for remembrance before your God: I am the Lord your God.” RSVCE

This Greek word translated to "remembrance" for Jews is a word associated with sacrifice.
anamnēsis Strong's G364

"Do this" is also critical to understanding. "Do this" means the blessing, breaking, and consecration of the bread and also (and this is why Jesus linked the sacrament to the Passover) the consumption by the people. The lamb, the lamb of God, is to be eaten. The Passover was not complete until the lamb was eaten, as per God's command.
 
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Numbers 10:10 On the day of your gladness also, and at your appointed feasts, and at the beginnings of your months, you shall blow the trumpets over your burnt offerings and over the sacrifices of your peace offerings; they shall serve you for remembrance before your God: I am the Lord your God.” RSVCE

This Greek word translated to "remembrance" for Jews is a word associated with sacrifice.
anamnēsis Strong's G364

"Do this" is also critical to understanding. "Do this" means the blessing, breaking, and consecration of the bread and also (and this is why Jesus linked the sacrament to the Passover) the consumption by the people. The lamb, the lamb of God, is to be eaten. The Passover was not complete until the lamb was eaten, as per God's command.
But just because the peace offerings were to be a remembrance, that doesn't mean that every time the bible uses the word "remembrance", it must mean sacrifice. Just one example of many:

“Then the LORD said to Moses, "Write this [for] a memorial in the book and recount [it] in the hearing of Joshua, that I will utterly blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven."” (Ex 17:14 NKJV)

Also, Jesus gave thanks and broke the bread, but we don't read that He "consecrated" it.
 
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But just because the peace offerings were to be a remembrance, that doesn't mean that every time the bible uses the word "remembrance", it must mean sacrifice. Just one example of many:

“Then the LORD said to Moses, "Write this [for] a memorial in the book and recount [it] in the hearing of Joshua, that I will utterly blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven."” (Ex 17:14 NKJV)

Also, Jesus gave thanks and broke the bread, but we don't read that He "consecrated" it.
You're referring to a different Greek word, rather than anamnēsis.
 
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You're referring to a different Greek word, rather than anamnēsis.
Sorry, I wasn't referring to a Greek word. The Hebrew word translated "remembrance" in the Exodus verse I quoted is "zeker".

Here is an example where "remembrance" does translate the Greek anamnēsis, but which doesn't refer to a sacrifice:

“I thank my God upon every remembrance of you,” (Php 1:3 NKJV)
 
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Sorry, I wasn't referring to a Greek word. The Hebrew word translated "remembrance" in the Exodus verse I quoted is "zeker".

Here is an example where "remembrance" does translate the Greek anamnēsis, but which doesn't refer to a sacrifice:

“I thank my God upon every remembrance of you,” (Php 1:3 NKJV)
You're mistaken again. In your example a different Greek word is used.
 
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You're mistaken again. In your example a different Greek word is used.
Sorry, and thanks for pointing it out. My original point still holds, that I wasn't talking about a Greek word in the post of mine you replied to first, but a Hebrew word (Old Testament). I apologise again for my error.
 
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As a Confessional Lutheran, we to believe in the real presence of the very body and blood our our Lord Jesus Christ given and shed for us, to be eaten and drank by our Lord's command as a means of grace for forgiveness of sins.
We confessional Lutherans accept that the Eucharist in the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church, and much of the Anglican Communion have a valid Eucharist.
While we agree with the Catholic Church, yet were I to commune at their altar, that would signify my agreement with both Papal authority and the authority of the Catholic magisterium.

Likewise, were they to commune with us, that would signify that they are in full agreement with our confessions. Therefore, we and they continue to practice closed communion.

For persons who are not Catholic to commune with do so are making a public confession of concord with the Catholic Church.

BTW, the confessional Lutherans would not allow the OP to commune with them either for the same reasons... and there are other reasons as well regarding their wellbeing, both physical and spiritual.
 
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Look how men have divided the Church with what was clearly in reference to the middle piece of unleavened bread wrapped in white linen and hidden until the 3rd cup of wine when the head of the home brought out the hidden/burried piece of unleavened bread after the meal was eaten during Passover. He was simply pointing out who He was and to partake of this with that in mind.
How did it ever get so controversial?
Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I understood that the very first time I witnessed Passover being celebrated.
Men have fought and died trying to force others to believe their carnal stubbornness somehow made rightious by man's design.
If that makes me a heretic, then so be it.
Stop fighting like those in the world over a spiritual truth.
There are people in this world who are hurting.
 
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Look how men have divided the Church with what was clearly in reference to the middle piece of unleavened bread wrapped in white linen and hidden until the 3rd cup of wine when the head of the home brought out the hidden/burried piece of unleavened bread after the meal was eaten during Passover.
See This is my body or represents my body? and follow up there
 
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