Was the 2020 U/S Presidential election stolen from Trump?

[Akita Suggagaki]

I am just wondering where we stand here.

 

[Fantine]

Surely you jest. 60 legal challenges were found to be groundless.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Absolutely not.

 

[Vambram]

The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election

For more than a year, a loosely organized coalition of operatives scrambled to shore up America’s institutions

time.com

This very, very long article was written by a liberal Democratic point of view. Although the writer tries to show how wonderful it was that all those different groups "saved the 2020 election" ; what I believe these groups did was work together, starting months before the election, to make sure that Donald Trump was not going to be reelected. Unfortunately, they succeeded.

 

[HTacianas]

I am just wondering where we stand here.

It depends on how you define stolen and who exactly stole it. Could the national media blackout of the Hunter Biden laptop story be considered stealing the election? Could social media's ban on public discussions of it be considered stealing? Could "fifty current and former intelligence officials" signing on to what they knew was a lie be considered stealing the election? Could Mark Zuckerberg's spending millions of dollars to "register voters" in urban heavily-Democratic areas while ignoring rural Republican-leaning voters altogether be considered stealing the election?

Who knows.

 

[Hazelelponi]

I am just wondering where we stand here.

Yes, Definitely. That's my answer.

2020 was so corrupt that if Americans had any faith in the impartiality of the UN I'd be demanding UN oversight for this one. We all would be.

But alas, the UN is the twin for the New Democratic party and just as corrupt, so here we are, giving one more shot hoping we can, with God's help, overcome all the obstacles before us.

God willing we can restore our integrity.

 

[Yarddog]

I am just wondering where we stand here.

It been proven that the election wasn't stolen. Trump's lawyers all admitted in court that there was no fraud.

 

[Vambram]

It been proven that the election wasn't stolen. Trump's lawyers all admitted in court that there was no fraud.

Links?

 

[Yarddog]

Links?

In Court, Trump's Lawyers Aren't Claiming 'Massive' Fraud

While the President and his lawyers make histrionic claims in public, the campaign's legal filings are narrow in scope

time.com

 

[Yarddog]

Links?

Trump May Push Voter Fraud Claims During A Trial—But Even His Own Lawyers Won’t

Rudy Giuliani conceding that claims he made about Georgia election workers were false is the latest instance of the ex-president’s attorneys failing to defend his election fraud claims in court.

www.forbes.com

 

[Vambram]

In Court, Trump's Lawyers Aren't Claiming 'Massive' Fraud

While the President and his lawyers make histrionic claims in public, the campaign's legal filings are narrow in scope

time.com

Thank you.
The lawyers should have stayed with the charges of fraud. In my opinion, they made their case weak by being wishy-washy.

 

[Vambram]

@Yarddog

May I have your thoughts about the following article from Time.com

The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election

For more than a year, a loosely organized coalition of operatives scrambled to shore up America’s institutions

time.com

 

[Yarddog]

Thank you.
The lawyers should have stayed with the charges of fraud. In my opinion, they made their case weak by being wishy-washy.

They had no case. If they would have claimed it, while knowing it never happened, they would have been charged with pergury.l

 

[Vambram]

They had no case. If they would have claimed it, while knowing it never happened, they would have been charged with pergury.l

I disagree. I believe that they had a case. In too many states, there were election laws that were changed by governors or a secretary of state. By law, the laws of a state are only supposed to be changed by the state legislators or by the voters instead of politicians in the executive branch.

 

[Yarddog]

@Yarddog

May I have your thoughts about the following article from Time.com

The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election

For more than a year, a loosely organized coalition of operatives scrambled to shore up America’s institutions

time.com

The National Review said the article made claims with no evidence to back it up.

 

[Vambram]

The National Review said the article made claims with no evidence to back it up.

Do you believe The National Review?

 

[Yarddog]

Do you believe The National Review?

Why not? They are a Conservative magazine which is shooting down a conspiracy theory which would help a conservative candidate.

 

[Vambram]

Why not? They are a Conservative magazine which is shooting down a conspiracy theory which would help a conservative candidate.

For over a decade, I have not trusted them to be actual conservatives. I believe that they ain't really America first or really constitutional conservatives.

 

[Yarddog]

For over a decade, I have not trusted them to be actual conservatives. I believe that they ain't really America first or really constitutional conservatives.

I don't think there are many Constitutional Conservatives.

 

[Servus]

They had no case. If they would have claimed it, while knowing it never happened, they would have been charged with pergury.l

So if they did think it was stolen, there might have been negative repercussions if they had said so.