Hush money trial - or ... business records trial -- just the facts please

[essentialsaltes]

leading legal scholars still don't know what Trump was actually convicted of.

What rubbish.

Not considered an illegal campaign contributions by the feds , they pasted on it.

What, the non-crime that David Pecker got an immunity deal for?

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

We don't need to re-adjudicate the case. We have a legal system that has done that.

 

[Postvieww]

What rubbish.

We really know better.

Jonathan Turley on NY v. Trump trial: What I saw today was outrageous | Fox News Video

George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley discusses accusations of political bias from Judge Merchan on 'Hannity.'

www.foxnews.com

I know liberals don't watch anything from Fox News. But here is scholarly legal analysis of just some of the Trump sham trial. There was NO election violation period, that claim is a hoax allowed to be advanced by the crooked Judge.

What, the non-crime that David Pecker got an immunity deal for?

Squashing a story to help in an election must not be a crime or there would have been charges for squashing the laptop story.

Pleading to a crime for a deal does not mean an actual crime occurred.

This was a get Trump for anything they could make up. Paying hush money to prevent bad press is not a crime. It is a common occurrence in the political and business world, NOT illegal and defiantly not an election violation.

Here is a real crime:

"Clinton campaign, DNC fined by FEC for lying about Steele dossier payments"​

Remember that Steele dossier that was intended to INFLUENCE AN ELECTION, that was ultimately debunked.

Even they were not charged with trying to influence an election they were charged with lying about it. Slap on the wrist, pay the fine and go on your merry way.

 

[rambot]

Ok....to be clear, what this OP seems to be asking for is a label that the media should be using....and frankly, little else.

 

[Reasonably Sane]

Nov 2016 the vote was cast for the Presidential term that started in 2017​

from: Hush money, catch and kill and more: A guide to unique terms used at Trump’s New York criminal trial ​

FALSIFYING BUSINESS RECORDS​

"DEFINITION: This is the criminal charge that’s being decided at Trump’s New York trial. He is charged with 34 counts of falsifying business records in the first degree​

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"Three payments that prosecutors say were made on Trump’s behalf to bury marital infidelity claims during his 2016 presidential campaign. They are the National Enquirer’s $30,000 payment (Jan 2016) to a Trump Tower doorman and $150,000 payment (August 2016) to former Playboy model Karen McDougal, and the $130,000 that Trump’s then-lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen arranged to pay porn actor Stormy Daniels.​

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"Paying hush money isn’t illegal on its own, but authorities say the payments made to suppress stories about Trump amounted to illegal campaign contributions.​

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from: Ex-Playboy model settles lawsuit over alleged Trump affair​

By MICHAEL BALSAMO Published 8:23 PM EDT, (Wednesday) April 18, 2018​

"LOS ANGELES (AP) — A former Playboy model who said she had a 10-month affair with President Donald Trump settled her lawsuit Wednesday with a supermarket tabloid over an agreement that prohibited her from discussing the relationship publicly.​

Karen McDougal’s settlement with the company that owns the National Enquirer “restores to me the rights to my life story and frees me from this contract ...​

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"In August 2016, the tabloid’s parent company, American Media Inc., paid McDougal $150,000 for the rights to her story about the alleged relationship, but the story never ran.​

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"Last month (March 2018), McDougal filed a lawsuit in Los Angeles asking to invalidate the contract, which she said she was misled into signing. The suit alleged that the company didn’t publish the story because AMI’s owner, David Pecker, is “close personal friends” with Trump. It also charged that Trump’s attorney, Michael Cohen, had inappropriately intervened and was secretly involved in discussions ..."​

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"with AMI executives about the agreement.​

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"Under the settlement agreement, McDougal can keep the $150,000 she was paid and AMI has the rights to up to $75,000 for any future profits from her story about the relationship.​

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"AMI had argued McDougal had been allowed to speak about her relationship since 2016 and the contract gave the company discretion over whether to publish the story.​

==================== next the 30,000 payment

from: $30,000 rumor? Tabloid paid for, spiked, salacious Trump tip

By JAKE PEARSON and JEFF HORWITZ Published 4:23 PM EDT, (Thursday) April 12, 2018

"NEW YORK (AP) — Eight months before (Jan 2016) the company that owns the National Enquirer paid $150,000 to a former Playboy Playmate (August 2016) who claimed she’d had an affair with Donald Trump, the tabloid’s parent made a $30,000 payment to... a former doorman at one of the real estate mogul’s New York City buildings.​

"As it did with the ex-Playmate, the Enquirer signed the ex-doorman to a contract that effectively prevented him from going public​

==================== Next the 130,000 payment stormy was supposed to pay back

Company offers to drop Stormy Daniels' hush-money agreement

The company set up by Donald Trump's former personal attorney is offering to rescind Stormy Daniels' hush-money agreement and drop its planned $20 million lawsuit against the porn actress for violating the agreement.

apnews.com

"An attorney for Essential Consultants said the company wants Daniels to repay the $130,000 she was paid as part of the nondisclosure agreement, which was signed days before the 2016 presidential election, according to a letter included in a Friday night court filing.​

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Wanted Daniels to repay 130k??

In any case, all of this is about "incorrect business records" (which is not legal, possibly misdemeanor, like jaywalking) not about "paying hush money" (which the article says is not illegal)

So then when is jaywalking a felony? Answer: "when one is jaywalking in order to rob a bank".
IN other words - all the "talk" was supposed to be about how problems with business records - was on the way to "robbing bank" and would mean that they should be pushing the crime of "robbing the bank" and not the crime of hush money or incorrect bank records.

So where has all the "Robbing the bank" sort of news been all this time??

Seems to be conspicuously absent.

The challenge is that what he was accused of is a misdemeanor and even then, the statute of limitations had expired. They had to do some fancy footwork to get past BOTH of those things to bring these charges. The whole thing is pretty funny, I think. And yeah, I truly mean, "funny". Let's see how this all goes.

 

[JustOneWay]

The challenge is that what he was accused of is a misdemeanor and even then, the statute of limitations had expired.

It was not a misdemeanor, and the he statute of limitations were not expired.

They had to do some fancy footwork to get past BOTH of those things to bring these charges. The whole thing is pretty funny, I think. And yeah, I truly mean, "funny". Let's see how this all goes.

It is all fun and games until they call him a convicted felon and put him in prison. Funny stuff!

 

[Reasonably Sane]

It was not a misdemeanor, and the he statute of limitations were not expired.


It is all fun and games until they call him a convicted felon and put him in prison. Funny stuff!