'Fire of Revival' Spreads in Europe as Thousands Pack Stadiums in Hungary and Italy

[Vambram]

'Fire of Revival' Spreads in Europe as Thousands Pack Stadiums in Hungary and Italy

Another wave of massive revival gatherings took place across Europe this weekend – this time in Italy and Hungary.

www2.cbn.com

Another wave of massive revival gatherings took place across Europe this weekend, and more than a thousand people made decisions to follow Jesus Christ – this time in Hungary and Italy.

International evangelist Jean-Luc Trachsel says "the power of the Lord" moved at two huge conferences in Hungary and Italy as people were saved, healed, and delivered.

"Fire of revival is spreading everywhere in Europe to hungry and thirsty people," he wrote on social media. "Stop to watch and dare why it's not coming to your place. Go to your knees and cry out to The Lord of the harvest to save your region."

 

[AlexB23]

'Fire of Revival' Spreads in Europe as Thousands Pack Stadiums in Hungary and Italy

Another wave of massive revival gatherings took place across Europe this weekend – this time in Italy and Hungary.

www2.cbn.com

Another wave of massive revival gatherings took place across Europe this weekend, and more than a thousand people made decisions to follow Jesus Christ – this time in Hungary and Italy.

International evangelist Jean-Luc Trachsel says "the power of the Lord" moved at two huge conferences in Hungary and Italy as people were saved, healed, and delivered.

"Fire of revival is spreading everywhere in Europe to hungry and thirsty people," he wrote on social media. "Stop to watch and dare why it's not coming to your place. Go to your knees and cry out to The Lord of the harvest to save your region."

Amen for this. We will have to see the latest religious surveys over the next few years or so, and hope that Europe has an increase in faith. Now, we as Christians need a revival in northern Europe.

 

[trophy33]

1. "More than a thousand" will not move the needle at all, its statistically insignificant, compared to the population of Europe. Its no revival. An average soccer match is being visited by tens of thousands people every weekend.

2. These bombastically marketed stadium evangelizations are overblown. The visitors return to the "world" in 90%+ in the first few years. If not, they have mostly already been Christians and just visited the action to see the show.

 

[mourningdove~]

'Fire of Revival' Spreads in Europe as Thousands Pack Stadiums in Hungary and Italy

Another wave of massive revival gatherings took place across Europe this weekend – this time in Italy and Hungary.

www2.cbn.com

Another wave of massive revival gatherings took place across Europe this weekend, and more than a thousand people made decisions to follow Jesus Christ – this time in Hungary and Italy.

International evangelist Jean-Luc Trachsel says "the power of the Lord" moved at two huge conferences in Hungary and Italy as people were saved, healed, and delivered.

"Fire of revival is spreading everywhere in Europe to hungry and thirsty people," he wrote on social media. "Stop to watch and dare why it's not coming to your place. Go to your knees and cry out to The Lord of the harvest to save your region."

 

[rockytopva]

Amen for this. We will have to see the latest religious surveys over the next few years or so, and hope that Europe has an increase in faith. Now, we as Christians need a revival in northern Europe.

I experienced Christ and the Holy Spirit in the following environment...

1. Sunday Morning services
2. Dinner and family time Sunday afternoon
3. Sunday Evening services
4. Wednesday night family night
5. Saturday night prayer meeting
6. Many revivals in a year with good evangelists
7. Youth trips to retreats and even amusement parks

I worry that the online attempts are not something that sanctifies the soul for more of God. I am in hopes to see a return to the old paths here in America where we meet together in healthy spiritual environments. Which I believe are the foundations to good revival.

 

[AlexB23]

1. "More than a thousand" will not move the needle at all, its statistically insignificant, compared to the population of Europe. Its no revival. An average soccer match is being visited by tens of thousands people every weekend.

2. These bombastically marketed stadium evangelizations are overblown. The visitors return to the "world" in 90%+ in the first few years. If not, they have mostly already been Christians and just visited the action to see the show.

I do agree on that. Isn't the population of Europe around 700M? But, we can always pray for Europe to become Christian.

It saddens me when churches become abandoned.

Well, at least this church gets a second lease on life, though, I'd rather it be a place of worship for Jesus: A 15th Century Cathedral Transformed into a Modern Bookstore — Colossal

 

[trophy33]

I do agree on that. Isn't the population of Europe around 700M? But, we can always pray for Europe to become Christian.

It saddens me when churches become abandoned.

Well, at least this church gets a second lease on life, though, I'd rather it be a place of worship for Jesus: A 15th Century Cathedral Transformed into a Modern Bookstore — Colossal
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People in Europe are leaving churches and organized religions, because these failed, historically - wars, lies, errors, persecutions, conflicts, corruption, perversion, fanaticism, anti-rationalism etc. Europeans have begun to think for themselves.

However, the moral values and social ideas are still mostly Christian, based upon Judeo-Roman systems.

 

[AlexB23]

I experienced Christ and the Holy Spirit in the following environment...

1. Sunday Morning services
2. Dinner and family time Sunday afternoon
3. Sunday Evening services
4. Wednesday night family night
5. Saturday night prayer meeting
6. Many revivals in a year with good evangelists
7. Youth trips to retreats and even amusement parks

I worry that the online attempts are not something that sanctifies the soul for more of God. I am in hopes to see a return to the old paths here in America where we meet together in healthy spiritual environments. Which I believe are the foundations to good revival.

Amen, same here, for the 1st one, but also when I am at a national park. Yosemite goes to show how God made a beautiful Earth. He planned the universe out, to form an Earth with beauty and wonder. It doesn't matter if one is an Old-Earth Creationist (such as myself), Theistic Evolutionist or a Young-Earth Creationist.

Speaking of national parks, many European countries have their own national parks: Nature conservation through parks and reserves | Savoie Mont Blanc (Savoie et Haute Savoie) - Alpes

Maybe, to get more Europeans to turn to Christ, trips to national parks could be made, and church groups could evangelize (albeit, carefully) there.

 

[AlexB23]

People in Europe are leaving churches and organized religions, because these failed, historically - wars, lies, errors, persecutions, conflicts, corruption, perversion, fanaticism, anti-rationalism etc. Europeans have begun to think for themselves.

However, the moral values and social ideas are still mostly Christian, based upon Judeo-Roman systems.

Yeah, the Crusades, wars, Roman corruption (yes, I am Catholic, but back in the 1500s, the Catholic church persecuted people), and extremists kinda ruined religion there. But yes, the churches made poor decisions. But, it is never too late to change our ways and make amends.

2 Peter 3:9 (NIV): "The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance."

Ephesians 4:32 (NIV): "Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you."

 

[trophy33]

Yeah, the Crusades, wars, Roman corruption (yes, I am Catholic, but back in the 1500s, the Catholic church persecuted people), and extremists kinda ruined religion there. But yes, the churches made poor decisions. But, it is never too late to change our ways and make amends.

2 Peter 3:9 (NIV): "The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance."

Ephesians 4:32 (NIV): "Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you."

The crusades, actually, do not have such bad reputation here, as they probably have outside of Europe.

More harm is done with various news and "preachers" from the USA who push the YEC, vegetarianism or even flat earth. This harms the credibility of Christianity quite a lot, in a developed society.

And the most harm was done by the catholic church sexual affairs with children. In the last decade, it was like an unending story, every few weeks some other case or memories of massive abuse in childhood of todays adults. I think this was the proverbial last drop.

So, lets say an average European is interested in Christianity. What are his choices:
a) pentecostal empty promises and emotionalism (not suiting well with the European mindset)
b) dozens of protestant mini-churches, all saying they are right
c) the sexually corrupted RCC
d) in news he sees Trump with a Bible or hears that the US Christians are trying to teach dinosaurs on the Noah's ark in schools or even believe in the flat earth

Such a person will rather stay open minded and outside of this mess.

 

[Whyayeman]

People in Europe are leaving churches and organized religions, because these failed, historically - wars, lies, errors, persecutions, conflicts, corruption, perversion, fanaticism, anti-rationalism etc. Europeans have begun to think for themselves.

This list of reasons for the decline of the church in Europe is true but not exhaustive. Many of us have simply rejected the reason for the existence of religion. We don't believe there is a God.

However, the moral values and social ideas are still mostly Christian, based upon Judeo-Roman systems.

Moral values are indeed similar to Christian, Roman and Judaic codes. There is nothing uniquely Christian about morality. Humans everywhere have remarkably similar values.

 

[trophy33]

This list of reasons for the decline of the church in Europe is true but not exhaustive. Many of us have simply rejected the reason for the existence of religion. We don't believe there is a God.

I think many people see no reason to think about such things, because their life is comfortable and full of entertainment/distraction.

True atheists are quite a minority, most people just do not care enough for any side and when asked, they give some vague "I believe in something..." or "I dont know". They have never given it a time to think it through and to formulate some ideas or even systems, so they are left with just intuitive answers.

Moral values are indeed similar to Christian, Roman and Judaic codes. There is nothing uniquely Christian about morality. Humans everywhere have remarkably similar values.

For example, when there is an immigration crisis from the Muslim countries, even the most atheistic country like I live in suddenly identify as "Christian" in political debates or online discussions. When there is some crisis, the Christian traditions and values are somehow more clear to common folk, suddenly, and they have no problem identifying with them.

 

[AlexB23]

The crusades, actually, do not have such bad reputation here, as they probably have outside of Europe.

More harm is done with various news and "preachers" from the USA who push the YEC, vegetarianism or even flat earth. This harms the credibility of Christianity quite a lot, in a developed society.

And the most harm was done by the catholic church sexual affairs with children. In the last decade, it was like an unending story, every few weeks some other case or memories of massive abuse in childhood of todays adults. I think this was the proverbial last drop.

So, lets say an average European is interested in Christianity. What are his choices:
a) pentecostal empty promises and emotionalism (not suiting well with the European mindset)
b) dozens of protestant mini-churches, all saying they are right
c) the sexually corrupted RCC
d) in news he sees Trump with a Bible or hears that the US Christians are trying to teach dinosaurs on the Noah's ark in schools or even believe in the flat earth

Such a person will rather stay open minded and outside of this mess.

I did not know that the crusades did not have as much of a bad reputation in Europe compared to outside Europe. And yes, it is true, there are a lot of pastors with strange doctrines here in the US. One such preacher which has toxic traits is Mark Driscoll. He has had some cult-like actions. In fact, I listened to some of his stuff a few weeks ago to a few days ago, and he had that charisma to drag people in. I told my parents about him, and mom told me that he has a cult-like church and that I should avoid him. There are a lot of toxic preachers out there, especially those on YouTube, so we must use discernment.

And yes, the Catholic church does have abuse in it, but the church is working on reparations. It will take a lot of time though.

Mark Driscoll Accused of Cult-Like Actions; 24/7 Surveillance, Mandated Loyalty

Former Members at Mark Driscoll's The Trinity Church say the church operates like a cult, surveilling people 24/7 & using a loyalty scale.

julieroys.com

 

[BCP1928]

The crusades, actually, do not have such bad reputation here, as they probably have outside of Europe.

More harm is done with various news and "preachers" from the USA who push the YEC, vegetarianism or even flat earth. This harms the credibility of Christianity quite a lot, in a developed society.

And the most harm was done by the catholic church sexual affairs with children. In the last decade, it was like an unending story, every few weeks some other case or memories of massive abuse in childhood of todays adults. I think this was the proverbial last drop.

So, lets say an average European is interested in Christianity. What are his choices:
a) pentecostal empty promises and emotionalism (not suiting well with the European mindset)
b) dozens of protestant mini-churches, all saying they are right
c) the sexually corrupted RCC
d) in news he sees Trump with a Bible or hears that the US Christians are trying to teach dinosaurs on the Noah's ark in schools or even believe in the flat earth

Such a person will rather stay open minded and outside of this mess.

Which is also why Christians in the US should wait a little before cheering the guy on. He doesn't sound like he's preaching the Gospel of Trump to me. They might not be pleased with what a restored Christian Europe looks like.

 

[rockytopva]

The pleasant result of a good revival...

My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you, - Galatians 4:19

And what was said of Christ?

Valleus says that in Judea he met a man called Jesus of Nazareth, who was one of the most remarkable characters he had ever seen; that he was more afraid of Jesus than of a whole army, for he cured all manner of diseases and raised the dead, and when he cursed the orchards or fruit-trees for their barrenness, they instantly withered to their roots, After referring to the wonderful work of Jesus, he says that, although Jesus had such power, he did not use it to injure any one, but seemed always inclined to help the poor. Valleus says the Jews were divided in their opinion of him., the poorer class claiming him as their king and their deliverer from Roman authority, and that if Jesus should raise an army and give it the power he could sweep the world in a single day; but the rich Jews hated and cursed 'him behind him back, and called him an Egyptian necromancer, though they were as afraid of him as of death. - Valleus Paterculus, B. 72, found in the Vatican at Rome

Christ formed on the inside is always a pleasant thing to behold!

 

[Whyayeman]

True atheists are quite a minority, most people just do not care enough for any side and when asked, they give some vague "I believe in something..." or "I dont know". They have never given it a time to think it through and to formulate some ideas or even systems, so they are left with just intuitive answers.

I don't think that is true these days in the UK or France, the two countries I know best. Getting on for 40% of people in England and Wales declared that they had 'No Religion' in the 2021 Census. It is thought that that this understates the true figure.

For the first time fewer than half of people in England and Wales describe themselves as Christian, the Census 2021 has revealed. ​

The proportion of people who said they were Christian was 46.2%, down from 59.3% in the last census in 2011.​

In contrast the number who said they had no religion increased to 37.2% of the population, up from a quarter.​

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Less than half of England and Wales population Christian, Census 2021 shows

The number of people who say they have no religion has risen, the 2021 Census for England and Wales shows.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Occams Barber]

I don't think that is true these days in the UK or France, the two countries I know best. Getting on for 40% of people in England and Wales declared that they had 'No Religion' in the 2021 Census. It is thought that that this understates the true figure.

For the first time fewer than half of people in England and Wales describe themselves as Christian, the Census 2021 has revealed. ​

The proportion of people who said they were Christian was 46.2%, down from 59.3% in the last census in 2011.​

In contrast the number who said they had no religion increased to 37.2% of the population, up from a quarter.​

​

Less than half of England and Wales population Christian, Census 2021 shows

The number of people who say they have no religion has risen, the 2021 Census for England and Wales shows.

www.bbc.co.uk

The growing group with 'No Religion' (aka the 'Nones') are not atheists. 'Nones' are simply people who don't identify with any particular religion or denomination. Nones have been studied in some depth and the consensus is that they are growing rapidly and generally have some form of spiritual belief (e.g. a vague belief in a 'higher power'). This group represents a risk to Christianity due to indifference rather than opposition.

Atheist numbers are fairly static or very slightly increasing. Atheists represent a very small proportion (perhaps 10%?) of the population with little overall impact.

This article covers the issue from a US POV but the UK (and Australia) are similar:

The Rise of the Nones – Mark L. Movsesian

What will the social and political life of an “ex-Christian” nation look like?

lawliberty.org

OB

 

[2PhiloVoid]

'Fire of Revival' Spreads in Europe as Thousands Pack Stadiums in Hungary and Italy

Another wave of massive revival gatherings took place across Europe this weekend – this time in Italy and Hungary.

www2.cbn.com

Another wave of massive revival gatherings took place across Europe this weekend, and more than a thousand people made decisions to follow Jesus Christ – this time in Hungary and Italy.

International evangelist Jean-Luc Trachsel says "the power of the Lord" moved at two huge conferences in Hungary and Italy as people were saved, healed, and delivered.

"Fire of revival is spreading everywhere in Europe to hungry and thirsty people," he wrote on social media. "Stop to watch and dare why it's not coming to your place. Go to your knees and cry out to The Lord of the harvest to save your region."

M'boy! Excuse me if I don't get overly excited at the news since I once saw Rodney Howard Brown "in concert." It was a spectacle. Not an impressive spectacle. But it was a spectacle.

 

[Vambram]

He doesn't sound like he's preaching the Gospel of Trump to me.

There is no such thing as the Gospel of Trump. In my opinion, to suggest otherwise is borderline blasphemy if not outright actual blasphemy.

 

[Occams Barber]

There is no such thing as the Gospel of Trump. In my opinion, to suggest otherwise is borderline blasphemy if not outright actual blasphemy.

"Gospel of xxx" is a common metaphor for a strongly held belief. It's often used to ridicule someone who tends to go over the top. To suggest blasphemy is a little ridiculous.

OB