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The "political prosecution"

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Wow poor Bill. He's gonna die in committee...again :(. Thanks for the trip down memory lane brother. And hislegacy too. Schoolhouse rock was classic, wholesome TV if that exists. Before we had to teach our young-uns how to stay alive in school during shootings.
Agreed. Times were much simpler back then in the 1970s, even in the 2000s (2007 or so) when my mom showed me this School House Rock video on DVD.

Germany has safer schools, without as much shootings, while still having a lot of gun ownership. The difference: sensible gun laws.
 
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That's right this whole sham trial (my opinion)....
Is saying that this is your opinion a tacit admission that you have no credible evidence that the trial was a sham?

How could it be a sham? What specific element of the trial is suspicious? Trump hired his lawyers and the jurors were selected in the usual manner that ensures that both prosecution and defence have to find jurors acceptable. So where is the sham?
 
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If we get what we want, how did we get the disaster currently occupying the Whitehouse?
With a slammin' economy like this, we must want the very best. And since Trump built the wall and Mexico paid for it, illegal immigration is not a problem and Biden needn't take any action. Who wouldn't want four more years of this?
 
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Is saying that this is your opinion a tacit admission that you have no credible evidence that the trial was a sham?

How could it be a sham? What specific element of the trial is suspicious? Trump hired his lawyers and the jurors were selected in the usual manner that ensures that both prosecution and defence have to find jurors acceptable. So where is the sham?
The only crime Donald Trump has committed is loving his country too much.
it might even fit on a bumpersticker?
 
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Over half the voters in the US
I'm sure you hope that will be the case...but the fact is, Trump has never gotten over half the voters in the US to vote for him. Not even when he won enough electoral votes.

-- A2SG, but I guess you always gotta have hope, right?
 
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Over half the voters in the US
What, exactly, are you saying? What, precisely, is the claim you are making here?

Are you saying that over half the US voters prefer Trump to Biden? Well, if that is what you are saying, where is the evidence?

Or are you pointing out that over 50% of voter disapprove of Biden? Yes, that's true, but what is your point? Surely you must know that just because a majority of voters disapprove of Biden, it does not follow logically that more than 50% would prefer Trump to be President.

So, again, what exactly are you saying?
 
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One in 10 Republicans less likely to vote for Trump after guilty verdict, Reuters/Ipsos poll finds

WASHINGTON, May 31 (Reuters) - Ten percent of Republican registered voters say they are less likely to vote for Donald Trump following his felony conviction for falsifying business records to cover up a hush money payment to a porn star, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll that closed on Friday.

The potential loss of a tenth of his party's voters is more significant for Trump than the stronger backing of more than a third of Republicans, since many of the latter would be likely to vote for him regardless of the conviction. Among independent registered voters, 25% said Trump's conviction made them less likely to support him in November, compared to 18% who said they were more likely and 56% who said the conviction would have no impact on their decision.
 
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What, exactly, are you saying? What, precisely, is the claim you are making here?

Are you saying that over half the US voters prefer Trump to Biden? Well, if that is what you are saying, where is the evidence?
Right here:

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Tie means 50/50 - is that specific enough for you?
Or are you pointing out that over 50% of voter disapprove of Biden? Yes, that's true, but what is your point? Surely you must know that just because a majority of voters disapprove of Biden, it does not follow logically that more than 50% would prefer Trump to be President.

So, again, what exactly are you saying?

You are correct - over 50% disapprove of the current occupant in the Whitehouse.

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Unless of course you are speaking of the ROBUST - BETTER THAN EVER ECONOMY - ie Bidenomics then his disapproval is:

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Is that specific enough?

People are not buying what they are being told -

Don't hand me a mud sandwich and tell me it is peanut butter.
 
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Right here:

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Tie means 50/50 - is that specific enough for you?
There is still a problem. In that last poll, it shows Trump at 51 and Biden at 49. But just know I saw a Forbes guy saying that in their most recent poll, it was Trump at 43%, Biden at 42%, and 14% undecided.

Your claim was that "Over half the voters in the US" do not want Biden.

That is simply not true according to my source - 43% is not over half. Here is the link:
(about a minute in for the key point).

I strongly suspect something is wrong with the source you are citing - it is very difficult to believe that there are 0% undecided voters as the data as that last poll claims.
 
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Is that specific enough?

People are not buying what they are being told -

Don't hand me a mud sandwich and tell me it is peanut butter.
No one, least of all me, ever claimed that Biden's approval rating was anywhere near 50%. But that is an entirely different question than "who would you vote for". And that last poll you cited with Trump at 51% and Biden at 49% almost certainly has to be wrong (or the question is not what you are passing it of as being) - there is simply no way that 0% of voters are undecided. And yet that is what the "Trump 51%, Biden 49%" poll is saying.

Something is wrong here.
 
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Is saying that this is your opinion a tacit admission that you have no credible evidence that the trial was a sham?

How could it be a sham? What specific element of the trial is suspicious? Trump hired his lawyers and the jurors were selected in the usual manner that ensures that both prosecution and defence have to find jurors acceptable. So where is the sham?

The sham is in the heads of Trump fans. They seem to have allowed their emotions to replace their reasoning abilities. The self-deception is the sham, and this deception is of their own device. It's a choice. They choose the sham so they won't need to reconcile their misguided perceptions with reality.
 
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There is still a problem. In that last poll, it shows Trump at 51 and Biden at 49. But just know I saw a Forbes guy saying that in their most recent poll, it was Trump at 43%, Biden at 42%, and 14% undecided.
Riight - simple math here - you have a heads up - 43 v 42 - I'm pointing to a two person field - more than half of that 85 - is for Trump - why is this so difficult for people to understand?
 
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Riight - simple math here - you have a heads up - 43 v 42 - I'm pointing to a two person field - more than half of that 85 - is for Trump - why is this so difficult for people to understand?

But that isn't half of the US -- that is half of the "85." Beyond that, it isn't taking into account the margin of error -- likely about 3% -- which means Biden may actually lead.
 
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Like nearly everything in Donald Trump’s world, this mass delusion will deteriorate. The only sustainable things I have noticed in Trump’s world for 40 years are Trump’s lies and his corruption.

His criminal convictions, with over 50 more to come, will not earn Mr Trump another term in our White House. That is industrial strength self-deception right there.
 
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Agreed. Times were much simpler back then in the 1970s, even in the 2000s (2007 or so) when my mom showed me this School House Rock video on DVD.

Germany has safer schools, without as much shootings, while still having a lot of gun ownership. The difference: sensible gun laws.
Oh.
There is a culture difference too. Don't kid yourself.
 
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