SC Senate Passes Bill Banning Affirmative Care For Minors

[rjs330]

So they can't share pronouns with the other two?

No. They are reserved for the sex of which they were intended. If you want to do away with pronouns all together then get the movement going.

Yes, the preoccupation with "women's spaces" and the fantasy about trans women's intense desire to "get" in them for some unspoken reason is very creepy.

Yes women find it very creepy when men try to get into their spaces. They are creeped out by the desire of men to get into them.

One door said "Ungendered toilet with urinals." the other said, "Ungendered toilet without urinals." Problem solved.

Not fir the women who didn't want to share a bathroom with men. Didn't solve a thing.
Doesn't sound lime biology won there.

 

[rjs330]

I don't think that when a Christian refers to their "personal relationship with God" they mean Santa.

I'll admit that I may be wrong though....and if any Christian here does believe Santa Claus = God....feel free to speak up.

Santa no, the tooth fairy? Maybe.

 

[RileyG]

Really? Do you go on vacation to a secluded island during late December?

-- A2SG, at least you won't have to listen to that Mariah Carey song again and again and again....

Christmas is a very commercialized holiday. Many people of different faiths- and no faith at all- celebrate it.

That Mariah Carey song at all does not mention God, Jesus or any religious figure at all- other than "St. Nick" meaning, Santa Clause.

 

[A2SG]

I don't think that when a Christian refers to their "personal relationship with God" they mean Santa.

I'll admit that I may be wrong though....and if any Christian here does believe Santa Claus = God....feel free to speak up.

Try sticking around next December, and see what happens. Why not wish a christian "Happy Holidays!" while you're at it.

-- A2SG, all I want for christmas is...to not hear that song again....

 

[RileyG]

Try sticking around next December, and see what happens. Why not wish a christian "Happy Holidays!" while you're at it.

-- A2SG, all I want for christmas is...to not hear that song again....

As a Christian, I have no problem with "Happy Holidays" and I find the whole "Merry Christmas vs Happy Holidays" pathetic, because a person is literally just wishing a person goodwill....but we are getting off topic

 

[A2SG]

That Mariah Carey song at all does not mention God, Jesus or any religious figure at all- other than "St. Nick" meaning, Santa Clause.

It's still annoying. I hear it on almost constant repeat every single day...and yet, the Pretenders song "2000 Miles," I'd be lucky to hear just once.

-- A2SG, though, I do enjoy listening to the Nutcracker Suite every year....but I have that on MP3 myself....

 

[A2SG]

As a Christian, I have no problem with "Happy Holidays" and I find the whole "Merry Christmas vs Happy Holidays" pathetic, because a person is literally just wishing a person goodwill....but we are getting off topic

Yup.

But, your view on this isn't exactly a common one among Christians during that time of year, y'know.

-- A2SG, especially if you watch Fox News....

 

[RileyG]

Yup.

But, your view on this isn't exactly a common one among Christians during that time of year, y'know.

-- A2SG, especially if you watch Fox News....

Well. It depends who you ask.

 

[RileyG]

It's still annoying. I hear it on almost constant repeat every single day...and yet, the Pretenders song "2000 Miles," I'd be lucky to hear just once.

-- A2SG, though, I do enjoy listening to the Nutcracker Suite every year....but I have that on MP3 myself....

I actually love that Mariah Carey song. Yes, it can be annoying, especially if you work retail

 

[Ana the Ist]

So they can't share pronouns with the other two?

The pronouns refer to distinct categories. We refer to men as "he" and women as "she".

I'm aware that people are trying to change this....but even those who go along with this change and advocate for it seem to be unable to consistently alter their language and revert back to the default above.

This isn't a personal or moral failure on their part....it's the result of these being distinct categories and the nature of the human mind as a pattern seeking/identifying mechanism due to thousands and thousands of years of evolution.

Sure, trans isn't the same as drag and what I attended was a trans women's beauty contest.

Ok.

But "drag " can be described as "male theatrical transvestism"

It can be described a lot of ways.

and a beauty pageant is certainly a theatrical performance

I'd say it's more of a contest/competition than mere performance. This is obvious from the declaration of a winner. It may have theatrical elements, but that isn't a necessary component.

--what else would you call attractive young women prancing about a stage in a variety of alluring costumes?

It could be a strip bar with a description that vague.

I thought we already agreed that transgender and drag aren't the same....so I'm not sure why you wouldn't just say you made an honest mistake in conflating the two and move on.

Consider what I said above about the mind seeking patterns and how that may have led to your minor mistake of labeling it a drag show. It's not a big deal.

I thought calling it a drag show was a nice turn of phrase.

Ok...you were being metaphorical....on purpose. Fine.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Santa no, the tooth fairy? Maybe.

I think they may be in cahoots. The tooth fairy clearly knows when you're sleeping and awake. They could be colluding in their respective schemes like the CIA and Mossad.

 

[Ana the Ist]

It's still annoying. I hear it on almost constant repeat every single day...and yet, the Pretenders song "2000 Miles," I'd be lucky to hear just once.

-- A2SG, though, I do enjoy listening to the Nutcracker Suite every year....but I have that on MP3 myself....

Hey....something we have in common. I also consider myself lucky if I hear "2000 miles" by the Pretenders just once.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Try sticking around next December, and see what happens. Why not wish a christian "Happy Holidays!" while you're at it.

Uh huh...maybe you can just tell me what happens? Do they spontaneously combust or something?

I daresay I've heard more talk about the "war on Christmas" from non-Christians on here than Christians. Perhaps it's different in the sections I'm locked out of though.

 

[A2SG]

Uh huh...maybe you can just tell me what happens? Do they spontaneously combust or something?

I daresay I've heard more talk about the "war on Christmas" from non-Christians on here than Christians. Perhaps it's different in the sections I'm locked out of though.

Really? You've heard non-christians demand that people alter their language to say Merry Christmas instead of Happy Holidays, or to validate the belief that Christ is the "reason for the season"?

'Cuz I've heard many a Christian say exactly that. Here, and elsewhere.

-- A2SG, if you haven't, you must not get internet on that secluded island of yours.....

 

[Ana the Ist]

Really?

Yes.

You've heard non-christians demand that people alter their language

Oh yeah....all the time. They try to pretend it's about "being polite" instead of the moralizing pseudo-religious nonsense it is because that would make them like the Christians they're bigoted against. They demand absurd things like the adoption of incorrect or completely fabricated pronouns that even they cannot explain. It's really silly stuff and yet despite it clearly being an issue of morality to them....they insist it's only about politeness.

In many ways, it's similar to how some people here will make blatantly racist generalizations about white people and claim it's not actually racism it's just "prejudice" or "stereotypes"....because if it were racism that would make them too similar to the white people they're bigoted against in their minds. There's a similar thing wherein they're sexist towards men but refer to it as "addressing toxic masculinity" which doesn't really mean anything apart from disliking something they see a man do or say. They even invented a term for heterosexual men and women called "cisgender" for the purposes of making bigoted statements about them. Fascinating group of extremely superficial and bitter people.

to say Merry Christmas instead of Happy Holidays, or to validate the belief that Christ is the "reason for the season"?

Oh...I didn't say any of that. No...I meant they literally bring up the "war on Christmas" which was a fabricated "attack" on the phrase merry Christmas around 1-2 decades ago. I'm sure that back then....there was some tiny minority of Christians talking about it....but I haven't heard any Christians bring it up since then....

I do see non-christians bring it up around 6-12 times a year, every year, on this forum though....as if they're starring in some Back To The Future sequel where they're stuck in the past, talking about it as if it's some current issue lol.

'Cuz I've heard many a Christian say exactly that. Here, and elsewhere.

Sure sure....try to forgive me if my memory fails because as I said, the last time I recall Christians complaining about the "war on Christmas" was years and years ago and they weren't demanding that people say "Merry Christmas" but rather they were upset that store owners and other liberal people were demanding that employees say "Happy Holidays" instead. They didn't think it was right for others to try and control their speech and wanted to be able to say "Merry Christmas" without being called a bigot or fired from their job. Perhaps I'm wrong though (I doubt it) and they were demanding control over the speech of others long ago and I just don't recall because it's been so very long since I heard a Christian bring it up.

Either way....the cool thing is this site has a search function and we can both search the phrase "war on Christmas" and see who has been saying it and in what context. Wanna give it a go?

 

[A2SG]

Yes.




Oh yeah....all the time. They try to pretend it's about "being polite" instead of the moralizing pseudo-religious nonsense it is because that would make them like the Christians they're bigoted against. They demand absurd things like the adoption of incorrect or completely fabricated pronouns that even they cannot explain. It's really silly stuff and yet despite it clearly being an issue of morality to them....they insist it's only about politeness.

In many ways, it's similar to how some people here will make blatantly racist generalizations about white people and claim it's not actually racism it's just "prejudice" or "stereotypes"....because if it were racism that would make them too similar to the white people they're bigoted against in their minds. There's a similar thing wherein they're sexist towards men but refer to it as "addressing toxic masculinity" which doesn't really mean anything apart from disliking something they see a man do or say. They even invented a term for heterosexual men and women called "cisgender" for the purposes of making bigoted statements about them. Fascinating group of extremely superficial and bitter people.




Oh...I didn't say any of that. No...I meant they literally bring up the "war on Christmas" which was a fabricated "attack" on the phrase merry Christmas around 1-2 decades ago. I'm sure that back then....there was some tiny minority of Christians talking about it....but I haven't heard any Christians bring it up since then....

I do see non-christians bring it up around 6-12 times a year, every year, on this forum though....as if they're starring in some Back To The Future sequel where they're stuck in the past, talking about it as if it's some current issue lol.




Sure sure....try to forgive me if my memory fails because as I said, the last time I recall Christians complaining about the "war on Christmas" was years and years ago and they weren't demanding that people say "Merry Christmas" but rather they were upset that store owners and other liberal people were demanding that employees say "Happy Holidays" instead. They didn't think it was right for others to try and control their speech and wanted to be able to say "Merry Christmas" without being called a bigot or fired from their job. Perhaps I'm wrong though (I doubt it) and they were demanding control over the speech of others long ago and I just don't recall because it's been so very long since I heard a Christian bring it up.

Either way....the cool thing is this site has a search function and we can both search the phrase "war on Christmas" and see who has been saying it and in what context. Wanna give it a go?

Oh well. Tell you what, instead of visiting your secluded isle next December, stick around and we'll see.

-- A2SG, shoulda known better...but I'm still taking the cannoli....

 

[KCfromNC]

Careful. Showing contempt for Christianity is forbidden here, sir. It’s against the forums rules.

I stand with real women.

Not mentally ill men who think they are women.

Sorry

Luckily I didn't expect an attempt to answer so I'm not disappointed by this point.

Just shows this latest excuse for attacking LGBT people is another in a long line of those which aren't meant to be taken seriously. Does make one wonder what the actual reason behind those attacks are, though.

 

[KCfromNC]

I don't think you're going to find it that easy to alter the first amendment.

Almost as if there's legal precedent for accepting people's feelings about self identification without requiring them to prove anything?

 

[KCfromNC]

Our faith dies not have to be validated by you or anyone else.

Ignoring the court cases where it is validated by ignoring anti-discrimination laws simply because a business owner claims faith, of course.

I thin you are confused about what legal protections mean.

Just not in any with this post can explain.

 

[BCP1928]

The pronouns refer to distinct categories. We refer to men as "he" and women as "she".

I'm aware that people are trying to change this....but even those who go along with this change and advocate for it seem to be unable to consistently alter their language and revert back to the default above.

This isn't a personal or moral failure on their part....it's the result of these being distinct categories and the nature of the human mind as a pattern seeking/identifying mechanism due to thousands and thousands of years of evolution.

The categories we put things in are human constructs of our minds with no ontological status other than that. If the thing we want to categorize doesn't quite seem to fit in the category we want to assign it to, then it is the fault of the category, not the thing being categorized.

Ok.



It can be described a lot of ways.



I'd say it's more of a contest/competition than mere performance. This is obvious from the declaration of a winner. It may have theatrical elements, but that isn't a necessary component.




It could be a strip bar with a description that vague.

There's not that much difference in any case, except that the audience is not usually drinking at a fashion show,

I thought we already agreed that transgender and drag aren't the same....so I'm not sure why you wouldn't just say you made an honest mistake in conflating the two and move on.

Right we had agreed on that, so I'm either too stupid to remember or I just use language more flexibly than you do. Not every utterance needs to be a rigidly defined premise in a logical discourse.

Consider what I said above about the mind seeking patterns and how that may have led to your minor mistake of labeling it a drag show. It's not a big deal.



Ok...you were being metaphorical....on purpose. Fine.

Whatever.