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Trump found guilty on all 34 counts

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They do!

The convicted felon paid a woman to keep secret their liaison and bound her to it with a non-disclosure agreement. The same man was overheard telling a reporter of all people that he could sexually assault women with impunity. He had to pay massive damages in a civil case for a sexual assault on another woman. He has publicly mocked and denigrated another woman for her disability - on television. None of this is disputable. Yet it is denied by him and his followers.

But this is the man to make America Great Again? Now, that is a tangled web!
Statements like that just enforce the it's all motivated by politics, rather than justice, perception so many (other than magas) have.
 
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Well, that means that you can ignore the points being made. Some people use the ignore button to save actually putting fingers in the ears.
If you stop with the personal complaints that belong in PM, I'll reconsider. I have no problem whatsoever debating an actual topic with you.
 
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The convicted felon paid a woman to keep secret their liaison and bound her to it with a non-disclosure agreement.
Yep, people do this all the time.
The same man was overheard telling a reporter of all people that he could sexually assault women with impunity.
Not relevant...
He had to pay massive damages in a civil case for a sexual assault on another woman. He has publicly mocked and denigrated another woman for her disability - on television. None of this is disputable. Yet it is denied by him and his followers.
Not relevant
But this is the man to make America Great Again? Now, that is a tangled web!
Now we go back to the web weaved to turn a non disclosure agreement election fraud.
 
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Statements like that just enforce the it's all motivated by politics, rather than justice, perception so many (other than magas) have.
Yes, indeed. Just like they do with a standard non disclosure agreement "hush money". CRIME!!!! Ironic to acknowledge money paid to hush someone NDA, becomes an election crime. Pull a rabbit out of a hat.
 
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Regarding Manafort I got, he shared polling data with a suspected Russian intelligence officer in hopes of financial gain for himself, not to aid Russia’s efforts to help Mr Trump defeat Hillary Clinton. I'm having difficulty finding where Flynn admitted to it. So it seems to add up to the usual Russia collusion nothingburger.
 
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Regarding Manafort I got, he shared polling data with a suspected Russian intelligence officer in hopes of financial gain for himself, not to aid Russia’s efforts to help Mr Trump defeat Hillary Clinton. I'm having difficulty finding where Flynn admitted to it.
Acceptance of a pardon is an admission of guilt.
So it seems to add up to the usual Russia collusion nothingburger.
34 Nothingburgers this week. That's a lot of meat.
 
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I'm waiting for Musk to start supporting Trump financially.

$355 million? That's like pocket change to him.
Musk has this exactly correct, if a candidate for President falsifies business documents to cover-up an illegal campaign-contribution repayment, no matter whom it may be, they’re liable to get indicted and convicted.

Why this is “bad” is lost on me though.
 
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No. But I don't need to be to understand federalism. The federal courts only have jurisdiction involving federal questions (so things involving federal law, including the Constitution) or diversity jurisdiction (citizens of different states, but that's limited to civil law).
I was listening to two scholars and ivy league law professors speaking yesterday. That is what I am talking about. One mentioned a way to hopefully fast track things, to get him out of New York courts as soon as possible is all. I will take their word they know what they are talking about.
Just because they are law professors doesn't make them automatically right. Dersoqitcz has had a reputation as a hired gun for decades and Turley has been so constantly pro-Republican, including expressing many dubious or even straight-out wrong hot takes, that he's hard to take seriously. I'll look at his argument, but I don't expect it to be convincing to anybody who isn't already of the mind set this whole thing was rigged.
 
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No. But I don't need to be to understand federalism. The federal courts only have jurisdiction involving federal questions (so things involving federal law, including the Constitution) or diversity jurisdiction (citizens of different states, but that's limited to civil law).

Just because they are law professors doesn't make them automatically right. Dersoqitcz has had a reputation as a hired gun for decades and Turley has been so constantly pro-Republican, including expressing many dubious or even straight-out wrong hot takes, that he's hard to take seriously. I'll look at his argument, but I don't expect it to be convincing to anybody who isn't already of the mind set this whole thing was rigged.
I will give weight to law professors.
 
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Yep, people do this all the time.
Really? How many NDAs are you a part of?

I've never known people who are proud of their behaviour to use NDAs with almost everyone you interact with.
 
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Statements like that just enforce the it's all motivated by politics, rather than justice, perception so many (other than magas) have.
None of what I said is disputed. There are many men in your country (and mine) in prison now that are there for the offences your hero openly brags about.

Do you think that a criminal of such moral turpitude is a suitable candidate to 'make America great again'? Or, perhaps you think these crimes are not serious.
 
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