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Trump Found Guilty on All 34 Counts In Hush-Money Trial

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Which seems like quintessential tribalism. To overlook evidence and facts in preference to a political narrative. It is one of the most counterproductive elements this Trumpism has exacerbated in America. We forgot that we can disagree without being enemies. We Americans are one team of citizens and immigrants. No matter how hard people want to harden their hearts and divide themselves.

Misplaced anger and blame can be rectified by choice. Each of us chooses denial or truth. My experiences with denial force me to deal with truth, regardless of consequences. Truth is liberating and sets you free. Denial is a vicious cycle of anger, bitterness and unhappiness. It is baffling and cunning. I wish you well.
Amen to this. For myself, both sides have their pros and cons. I pick the best ones from each side which align closest to the Bible.

My ideologies try to align with Christ, and not a party. For convenience, these ideologies are color-coded by party traditions: Left, Center, Right

Pro-life
from womb to tomb (Psalm 139:13-16, Jeremiah 1:5, Exodus 20:13), unless both mother and baby are at risk
Environmental conservation (Genesis 2:15, Isaiah 24:4-6, Jeremiah 2:7)
Against gender transformation (Genesis 1:28, 1 Corinthians 6:19-20)
Against AK-47s but okay with hunters (Ecclesiastes 9:18, Matthew 26:52-54, Romans 12:19, Genesis 27:3-5)
For affordable healthcare (3 John 3:12, Matthew 9:12, Sirach 38:1-15)
For security screened, legal immigration or asylum (Leviticus 19:33-34, Philippians 3:20, 1 Peter 2:13-17)
Against woke and/or violent entertainment, but for warning labels on TV shows and books (Philippians 4:8, Psalm 11:5, Psalm 101:3, Acts 20:31)
 
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Amen to this. For myself, both sides have their pros and cons. I pick the best ones from each side which align closest to the Bible.

My ideologies try to align with Christ, and not a party. For convenience, these ideologies are color-coded by party traditions: Left, Center, Right

Pro-life
from womb to tomb (Psalm 139:13-16, Jeremiah 1:5, Exodus 20:13), unless both mother and baby are at risk
Environmental conservation (Genesis 2:15, Isaiah 24:4-6, Jeremiah 2:7)
Against gender transformation (Genesis 1:28, 1 Corinthians 6:19-20)
Against AK-47s but okay with hunters (Ecclesiastes 9:18, Matthew 26:52-54, Romans 12:19, Genesis 27:3-5)
For affordable healthcare (3 John 3:12, Matthew 9:12, Sirach 38:1-15)
For security screened, legal immigration or asylum (Leviticus 19:33-34, Philippians 3:20, 1 Peter 2:13-17)
Against woke and/or violent entertainment, but for warning labels on TV shows and books (Philippians 4:8, Psalm 11:5, Psalm 101:3, Acts 20:31)

Wow, that is quite a detailed synopsis with good quotes from the bible. I am impressed my friend. I've noticed your growth on these boards and applaud the example you set for others. Well done.

For my part, I'm doing my best to pay any attention to politics in America presently. I don't feel they have earned my time to worry about their self-serving, nonsensical performance art scam our elected officials have created out of our once functional government. I cannot tell you with confidence that I will even vote in November to be perfectly honest. And the feeling is like a breath of fresh air. I'm don't torture myself worrying about the cares of this world now that I'm learning a bit more about my faith. Politics is too cumbersome for this old long haired feller to carry on these weary shoulders.

I have re-engaged with these forums since Mr Trump has begun to receive his well-earned comeuppance. It is cathartic for law abiding Americans to see. We have waited seemingly forever to see Donald Trump being found responsible for his own behavior and faced actual real world consequences for his selfish, criminal activity. I feel this is a warning to Christians in America to return to the truth, which is living in the word of God. And turn away from living in the world of Donald Trump. I am encouraged by recent developments for sure. And whatever trust I have for our American institutions is slowly peeking thru the haze of uncertainty. Thanks for your reply.
 
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LOL, despite the chants, and that phrase, Hillary was never targeted by the DOJ during the Trump administration. Trump and the Republicans allowed Hillary to get away with her crimes. The biggest and worst grifters in politics today are the leaders of the Democratic political party.
Lol, mark that as a victory for the Deep State's respect for the rule of law. Trump tried to get his DOJ to go after her, and later after Obama, but there weren't any credible charges to be made.

Note that Biden's DOJ is prosecuting his own son even though it is fully within his power to pardon him. This same DOJ is currently prosecuting a US Democratic senator and his wife. This shows who has respect for law and who all does not.
 
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Wow, that is quite a detailed synopsis with good quotes from the bible. I am impressed my friend. I've noticed your growth on these boards and applaud the example you set for others. Well done.

For my part, I'm doing my best to pay any attention to politics in America presently. I don't feel they have earned my time to worry about their self-serving, nonsensical performance art scam our elected officials have created out of our once functional government. I cannot tell you with confidence that I will even vote in November to be perfectly honest. And the feeling is like a breath of fresh air. I'm don't torture myself worrying about the cares of this world now that I'm learning a bit more about my faith. Politics is too cumbersome for this old long haired feller to carry on these weary shoulders.

I have re-engaged with these forums since Mr Trump has begun to receive his well-earned comeuppance. It is cathartic for law abiding Americans to see. We have waited seemingly forever to see Donald Trump being found responsible for his own behavior and faced actual real world consequences for his selfish, criminal activity. I feel this is a warning to Christians in America to return to the truth, which is living in the word of God. And turn away from living in the world of Donald Trump. I am encouraged by recent developments for sure. And whatever trust I have for our American institutions is slowly peeking thru the haze of uncertainty. Thanks for your reply.
Hey, thank you for the compliments. It is not me you should be complimenting, it is the Bible that should be lifted up. The Bible has helped me understand God's intentions better. I try to stay out of politics also, but this forum gets me into it. :) With both parties ignoring the Bible, or cherry picking what is good, and what is bad, 2024 might be the last election I wanna vote in. In 2028, I might not vote anymore (or just vote centrist), cos by that time, the democratic side would go even farther left. Following Trump or Biden is a worldly thing to do. Glad that Donald got convicted.

Isn't it funny how the Bible has solutions to a lot of these world issues? Here is another one:

Proverbs 28:4-6 (ESV): "Those who forsake the law praise the wicked, but those who keep the law strive against them. Evil men do not understand justice, but those who seek the Lord understand it completely. Better is a poor man who walks in his integrity than a rich man who is crooked in his ways."
 
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Rule 18. Place of Prosecution and Trial​



Unless a statute or these rules permit otherwise, the government must prosecute an offense in a district where the offense was committed. The court must set the place of trial within the district with due regard for the convenience of the defendant, any victim, and the witnesses, and the prompt administration of justice.


Perhaps next time Donald should do any potential future criming in republican friendly areas of the country....

Blame Donald, not the court system.
Those are the rules for Federal Courts. This was a case in NY state court.

There are probably similar ones for NY state courts. The crimes as charged were committed in NY by a NYer.
 
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Those are the rules for Federal Courts. This was a case in NY state court.

There are probably similar ones for NY state courts. The crimes as charged were committed in NY by a NYer.
In New York which is also why the trial was there.
 
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Hillary didn't commit any crimes.
She was never tried. She did delete and bleach bit documents which were under subpoena.
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"The FBI’s summary of its investigation of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton contradicted some of her past statements about her use of a private email system for government business:

  • The Clinton campaign previously had indicated that her personal emails were deleted before Clinton received a congressional subpoena on March 4, 2015. But the FBI said her emails were deleted “between March 25-31, 2015” — three weeks after the subpoena. The campaign now says it only learned when the emails were deleted from the FBI report."
 
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She was never tried. She did delete and bleach bit documents which were under subpoena.

  • The Clinton campaign previously had indicated that her personal emails were deleted before Clinton received a congressional subpoena on March 4, 2015. But the FBI said her emails were deleted “between March 25-31, 2015” — three weeks after the subpoena. The campaign now says it only learned when the emails were deleted from the FBI report."
The personal emails were not subpoenaed, and so deleting them was not a crime.

But if you're trying to claim that Hillary (who has never been convicted of a crime) is guilty, while the convicted felon Donald Trump is innocent, by all means go for it.
 
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The personal emails were not subpoenaed, and so deleting them was not a crime.
Subpoenaed documents were BleachBit.
LOL, she did not want them disclosed. Her intent was political. Payment for that process of bleach bit how was it recorded????
Oh when such tactics come back and bite.
Hopefully this snakes head will be cut off in the appeals process.
 
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Subpoenaed documents were BleachBit.
LOL, she did not want them disclosed. Her intent was political. Payment for that process of bleach bit how was it recorded????

This is incoherent.
 
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Wow, this alleged human-trafficker makes a good argument.
It's a typical argument used in class struggle including Marxism. What I don't understand is why it would be a message for all the "Trump Haters"?
 
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It's a typical argument used in class struggle including Marxism. What I don't understand is why it would be a message for all the "Trump Haters"?
Confirmation-bias plays well with cognitive-dissonance?
 
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