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And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth.

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Revelation 6 : 2And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

As school kids we were taught that stars are suns , so how could suns fall to the earth ?
Even if one of them came close wouldn't we burn up?

Yet our bible says they fell to the earth.
 
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Revelation 6 : 2And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

As school kids we were taught that stars are suns , so how could suns fall to the earth ?
Even if one of them came close wouldn't we burn up?

Yet our bible says they fell to the earth.
Well, I do not like participating in the conspiracy sub-forum, but maybe this verse could refer to asteroids, the larger cousin of shooting stars.

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Revelation 6 : 2And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

As school kids we were taught that stars are suns , so how could suns fall to the earth ?
Even if one of them came close wouldn't we burn up?

Yet our bible says the sun came to Earth.
 
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Revelation 6 : 2And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

As school kids we were taught that stars are suns , so how could suns fall to the earth ?
Even if one of them came close wouldn't we burn up?

Yet our bible says they fell to the earth.

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So who are you going to believe, The Bible or science (or men of science), personally i believe The Bible.

The stars will fall to earth because they are not suns million to billions of light years away. But are lights created by God and placed in the raqia to give light to the earth. Along with the other two greater created lights, the sun and the moon.
 
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So who are you going to believe, The Bible or science (or men of science), personally i believe The Bible.

The stars will fall to earth because they are not suns million to billions of light years away. But are lights created by God and placed in the raqia to give light to the earth. Along with the other two greater created lights, the sun and the moon.
Well that idea is interesting , certainly different from the norm......:)
 
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Revelation 6 : 2And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

As school kids we were taught that stars are suns , so how could suns fall to the earth ?
Even if one of them came close wouldn't we burn up?

Yet our bible says they fell to the earth.
You must take into consideration that Bible is not written in our modern vocabulary.

Ancient people did not understand the difference between stars and meteorites, it all looked like lights so they had only one term for them. They also called planets "wandering stars", because for them they were just lights that moved in the sky (without falling down).

Falling stars in the Bible are meteorites in our modern language, scientifically. Metaphorically, they sometimes represent angels or authorities.
 
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Revelation 6 : 2And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

As school kids we were taught that stars are suns , so how could suns fall to the earth ?
Even if one of them came close wouldn't we burn up?

Yet our bible says they fell to the earth.
Stars can be interpreted as angels. Like when it says lucifer swept a third of the stars out of the sky (Revelation 12:4), as meaning he got a third of the angels to join him.
 
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As school kids we were taught that stars are suns , so how could suns fall to the earth ?

Since your question is posted in Conspiracy Theories, I will give you an answer that matches the forum.

CERN could create a Black Hole that gets larger and larger until it begins to engulf not only the Earth, but neighboring stars as well.

Tada! Stars falling to Earth. :p

A more plausible answer is, as others have already noted, that Stars in the Bible can represent Angels...

Revelation 1:20
"The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches."


Here is a Fallen Angel...

Revelation 9:1
"And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit."


The 'Star' is a 'him'.

Jesus is the Bright and Morning Star...

Revelation 22:16
"I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."


The Falling Stars could be the 'falling away' we see in this verse...

2 Thessalonians 2:3
"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition"


In other words, Falling Angels are going to leave Heaven and join the Man of Sin.
 
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Revelation 6 : 2And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

As school kids we were taught that stars are suns , so how could suns fall to the earth ?
Even if one of them came close wouldn't we burn up?

Yet our bible says they fell to the earth.
It could be a reference to the fallen angels. Revelation is a tough book to follow in many places because of the ample usage of figurative language. Jesus and satan are both referred to as “The Morning Stars” in the Bible so maybe it’s a reference to other fallen angels.
 
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In the context where it is found Jesus stating the stars will fall to heaven. The sun and moon are also mention, so it would be very unlikely this is a reference to angels.​

If one really wishes to understand the deeper meanings, the basic symbolism of Sun, Moon and Stars has to do with conception and birth...

Sun = Father/Male Seed
Moon = Mother/Female Seed
Star = Child
 
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If one really wishes to understand the deeper meanings, the basic symbolism of Sun, Moon and Stars has to do with conception and birth...

Sun = Father/Male Seed
Moon = Mother/Female Seed
Star = Child
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There is more than one star
 
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There is more than one star​

Indeed. Joseph's siblings were referred to as Stars...

Genesis 37:9
"And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me."


The Sun and Moon were of course his parents.
 
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Indeed. Joseph's siblings were referred to as Stars...

Genesis 37:9
"And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me."


The Sun and Moon were of course his parents.

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In that context dealing with Josephs dream yes the sun, moon and 11 stars represent Joseph's family. But if you are trying to say that goes for throughout The Bible, you a wrong.
 
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So who are you going to believe, The Bible or science (or men of science), personally i believe The Bible.

The stars will fall to earth because they are not suns million to billions of light years away. But are lights created by God and placed in the raqia to give light to the earth. Along with the other two greater created lights, the sun and the moon.
If this question is open to everyone, my answer would be that the two ideas don't conflict. When these balls of light are far away, they are stars which are also suns for each solar system. I believe the difference between the two is related to distance rather than substance.

The main reason I believe that the scientific data is solid is that science has figured out that gold is produced in the middle of a dying star and when it finally goes nova, the gold is shot across the galaxy landing on asteroids and meteors which then collide with the Earth as they fly through space

Gold can't be made nor duplicated using any materials found on Earth.. Ancient historical texts agree that gold is made by the sun and comes to Earth via the heavens which I believe was divinely inspired knowledge. We have visual evidence of stars being in different stages of death and how the process works from start to finish. We have sent super-advanced telescopes into other solar systems in order to take a visual record of this process in its various stages.

While I believe The Bible is divinely inspired and valid. The thing I struggle with as a man of faith and of scientific discovery is at the heart of the question of yours I quoted. For me it is almost like asking "do you believe what you read more than what you can see in front of you?" While we are creatures of faith, we are also creatures of reason. I do not believe the two conflict.
 
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If this question is open to everyone, my answer would be that the two ideas don't conflict. When these balls of light are far away, they are stars which are also suns for each solar system. I believe the difference between the two is related to distance rather than substance.

The main reason I believe that the scientific data is solid is that science has figured out that gold is produced in the middle of a dying star and when it finally goes nova, the gold is shot across the galaxy landing on asteroids and meteors which then collide with the Earth as they fly through space

Gold can't be made nor duplicated using any materials found on Earth.. Ancient historical texts agree that gold is made by the sun and comes to Earth via the heavens which I believe was divinely inspired knowledge. We have visual evidence of stars being in different stages of death and how the process works from start to finish. We have sent super-advanced telescopes into other solar systems in order to take a visual record of this process in its various stages.

While I believe The Bible is divinely inspired and valid. The thing I struggle with as a man of faith and of scientific discovery is at the heart of the question of yours I quoted. For me it is almost like asking "do you believe what you read more than what you can see in front of you?" While we are creatures of faith, we are also creatures of reason. I do not believe the two conflict.
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Observation, unless you personally are making these observations. Then you are simply taking another mans word that this is true.

Since mans words about God's creation do not agree with God's descriptions. I will go with God's and not try and make the two agree. I personally do not trust man and what he states is, is.
 
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Observation, unless you personally are making these observations. Then you are simply taking another mans word that this is true.
Interesting.......Genesis was written anonymously, however, both the Christians and Jews accept that he wrote it (no argument there). Though many biblical scholars believe it was a compilation of written and oral stories that were complicated by Moses.

Having said that, does the same logic apply when reading what is now known as The Bible, do you accept Moses' (and other unknown sources) observations about the beginning of the world? Further, do you accept that it is the truth even though you did not observe it for yourself? That is why I say believing something based on faith may not be as accurate as believing something based on recorded data which includes photographs, heat scanning, and scans for differing types of radiation and light. It sounds like a double standard to say you don't believe any scientific discovery you haven't personally witnessed in real time but you would accept second and third-hand accounts (with no visual proof) of people who never witnessed the creation of Earth.

So one can believe by witness or faith. Is believing through faith a more accurate observation than believing first-hand accounts which are accompanied by visual proof?
Since mans words about God's creation do not agree with God's descriptions. I will go with God's and not try and make the two agree. I personally do not trust man and what he states is, is.
But you do trust the word of man if it is written in an ancient text correct? I'm sure you know that neither God the Father, Jesus Christ, nor the Holy Spirit used a physical means of communication like writing. Who did they use to communicate? Would that be men? Are men whose writings were included in the Biblical Canon made perfect or was that honor given only to Jesus Christ? I believe you did say "I personally do not trust man and what he states is, is." Does that include the "men" who wrote the scripts that would be included in the Holy Book of religions instruction?

Men are still men no matter what they are called to do, can we agree on that? The writer of a Bible book is just as imperfect as an honest man who flips burgers let alone a man whose sole aim is to find answers in the mystery that is the Universe. I understand that people want to be good, obedient, and faithful Christians but the physical laws of nature have been the same now as when God created light.

Now, philosophical questions that we don't have universally agreed upon proven answers are best answered by God through our chosen faith however, as currently we still live in a physical Universe where all of the laws of nature, biology, chemistry, physics, and mathematics are constant and provable, we don't need to use faith to answer those questions other than how do we apply this knowledge in the best way that will glorify God.

In other words, faith is what we use to measure our purpose, but weighs and measures is how we measure the known Universe.

Does that make any sense? I know it is your duty to say no but looking at it objectively with free will, intelligence, and understanding granted to us by God, how can we deny truth when it is physically shown to us in real time?
 
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Stars fall to Mother Earth to be conceived...

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We are born from the 'lowest parts of the Earth'. Get it? Mystery Babylon = Mother Earth. Come out of her. Get it?

Jesus descended to the lower parts of the Earth. i.e., the womb of Mary, to be conceived...

Ephesians 4:9
Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?


You know? Morning Star? It descends into the womb to be conceived? Wake up.

Numbers 24:17
"I shall see him, but not now: I shall behold him, but not nigh: there shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Sceptre shall rise out of Israel, and shall smite the corners of Moab, and destroy all the children of Sheth."


Come on people. Get off the Milk Nursery Rhymes already. Understand the Meat Euphemisms...

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Interesting.......Genesis was written anonymously, however, both the Christians and Jews accept that he wrote it (no argument there). Though many biblical scholars believe it was a compilation of written and oral stories that were complicated by Moses.

Having said that, does the same logic apply when reading what is now known as The Bible, do you accept Moses' (and other unknown sources) observations about the beginning of the world? Further, do you accept that it is the truth even though you did not observe it for yourself? That is why I say believing something based on faith may not be as accurate as believing something based on recorded data which includes photographs, heat scanning, and scans for differing types of radiation and light. It sounds like a double standard to say you don't believe any scientific discovery you haven't personally witnessed in real time but you would accept second and third-hand accounts (with no visual proof) of people who never witnessed the creation of Earth.

So one can believe by witness or faith. Is believing through faith a more accurate observation than believing first-hand accounts which are accompanied by visual proof?

But you do trust the word of man if it is written in an ancient text correct? I'm sure you know that neither God the Father, Jesus Christ, nor the Holy Spirit used a physical means of communication like writing. Who did they use to communicate? Would that be men? Are men whose writings were included in the Biblical Canon made perfect or was that honor given only to Jesus Christ? I believe you did say "I personally do not trust man and what he states is, is." Does that include the "men" who wrote the scripts that would be included in the Holy Book of religions instruction?

Men are still men no matter what they are called to do, can we agree on that? The writer of a Bible book is just as imperfect as an honest man who flips burgers let alone a man whose sole aim is to find answers in the mystery that is the Universe. I understand that people want to be good, obedient, and faithful Christians but the physical laws of nature have been the same now as when God created light.

Now, philosophical questions that we don't have universally agreed upon proven answers are best answered by God through our chosen faith however, as currently we still live in a physical Universe where all of the laws of nature, biology, chemistry, physics, and mathematics are constant and provable, we don't need to use faith to answer those questions other than how do we apply this knowledge in the best way that will glorify God.

In other words, faith is what we use to measure our purpose, but weighs and measures is how we measure the known Universe.

Does that make any sense? I know it is your duty to say no but looking at it objectively with free will, intelligence, and understanding granted to us by God, how can we deny truth when it is physically shown to us in real time?
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As Romans states The Jews were trusted with the very oracles (scriptures, words ) of God
 
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