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Justice Thomas raised crucial question about legitimacy of special counsel's prosecution of Trump

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To be fair, would a lawyer or legal scholar whose experience is from a different jurisdiction be very knowledgeable about the details of NY state law?

-- A2SG, just curious........
Yes. The two I mentioned are very knowledgeable in this case. One problem here is the attempt to use Federal election law to revive past the statute of limitations on the book keeping misdemeanors.
 
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On what specifically about the case am I misinformed ?
The last few pages of this thread are a monument to your misinformed state on this off-topic case.
Any fair minded observer would see what is happening here.
You have never cited any "fair-minded observers" only Trump sycophants.
The star witness profits from trashing the man he is testifying against,
He admitted on the stand that his income would probably be higher if Trump wins, but that is just his personal assessment.
he is a convicted, admitted liar, he admitted to a crime on the stand. Tell me how I may have unfairly and ignorantly expressed an opinion on this witness?
You won't find anyone on here praising the character of Michael Cohen. What we do have is a witness saying: yeah I committed crimes with the defendant. Do the documents back his story? Yes. Is there any witness to any counternarrative? No.
Now to the judge who is obviously a biased , compromised political hack.
Merchan's reputation before this trial (and the RW attack dogs focused on him) was as an experienced and fair-minded judge. I do not see how it is obvious that he is biased.
Misuse of the gag order traditionally used to protect the defendant now used to silence one.
Gag orders are used to protect evidence and fairness in the court. They apply to all parties, lawyers, and anyone else under the court's jurisdiction. Trump is the only one *violating* those orders.
The judge has broken numerous court decorum norms.
Name ONE.
Many CREDIBLE law scholars have said this case should never have been charged in fact the Feds passed on it.
Dershowitz and Turley have blown up any credibility on Trump related matters a long time ago. They will defend anything against him. Where are the actual experts on NY criminal law commenting on this case?
My preference here is that actually law be observed not the partisan attacks to eliminate a political rival.
Trump appeals with a ferocity rarely seen. He keeps losing those appeals. This case is within the bounds of actual NY law. The issue to be decided (next week) is on the matter of facts sufficiency of evidence to hold a verdict that the jury will be making.
This is not the only case against Trump stained by corruption. I believe in the end truth will prevail and the American public will see this witch hunt for what it really is.
We already know your partisan position.
 
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Yes. The two I mentioned are very knowledgeable in this case.
Maybe, but that doesn't mean they're right. A jury makes that call, not any outside legal experts.

One problem here is the attempt to use Federal election law to revive past the statute of limitations on the book keeping misdemeanors.
My understanding is that falsifying business documents becomes a felony when used to cover up a further crime, so the statute of limitations on a misdemeanor wouldn't apply. If Trump violated federal election laws and falsified documents to cover that up, that's the felony.

Whether or not the prosecution has proven this remains in the hands of the jury. We'll see how they decide soon.

-- A2SG, not a legal expert, and not gonna pretend I am....
 
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My understanding is that falsifying business documents becomes a felony when used to cover up a further crime, so the statute of limitations on a misdemeanor wouldn't apply. If Trump violated federal election laws and falsified documents to cover that up, that's the felony.
No one seems to know what the crime is that was allegedly covered up.
 
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No one seems to know what the crime is that was allegedly covered up.
Well, maybe you don't know, but you're not on the jury and not privy to the presentation of evidence in this case. It's the prosecution's job to show the jury what the crime was, and if they don't do that, the jury will return a verdict of not guilty.

The prosecution isn't obligated to make sure you know what the crime was.

-- A2SG, you may assume the crime is mysterious and unknowable, but it's only whether or not the jury thinks so that matters....
 
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No one seems to know what the crime is that was allegedly covered up.
I've posted We The People's statement in this thread, and the thread where it's actually relevant.
 
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No one seems to know what the crime is that was allegedly covered up.
<Blink>

You are claiming to have no understanding of what this case is about? That seems an odd tack to take given your many posts is the thread.
 
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<Blink>

You are claiming to have no understanding of what this case is about? That seems an odd tack to take given your many posts is the thread.
If I may:
Since the charges are obviously only being pursued to hurt Trump, our good friend doesn’t need to “know” anything more about this case. So, doesn’t.
 
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<Blink>

You are claiming to have no understanding of what this case is about?
NY vs. Trump is the 'weakest case I've seen in 60 years' of criminal law: Alan Dershowitz | Fox Business Video 60 years of experience in law. A law professor, in person observer in the court room. A liberal who is admittedly not a Trump supporter . All of the self proclaimed expertise on this and other threads has no standing on the Trump case to refute the academic knowledge of the law and actual court room experience of this man. This is the actual of the matter. I dare all of the liberals here to watch the entire video before make ill informed comments.

That seems an odd tack to take given your many posts is the thread.
It take a lot of posts to combat the amount of liberal propaganda.
 
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<Blink>

You are claiming to have no understanding of what this case is about? That seems an odd tack to take given your many posts is the thread.
I know exactly what this case is about! Getting Trump is the only goal here.

Election interference from the same crowd who falsely cried Trump tried to steal an election.
 
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If I may:
Since the charges are obviously only being pursued to hurt Trump, our good friend doesn’t need to “know” anything more about this case. So, doesn’t.
You may , since at this time we still some free speech.

All I have read from the liberal side to support this sham trial is not very acurate. Watch the video from post # 210 for actual acedemic analysis from a LIBERAL who actually cares about the constitution and the rule of law.

He has more law expertise than the sum total of everyone posting on this forum.

Did I say he was a liberal who doesn't like Trump. Just wanted to make sure that point comes across.

BTW Thanks I am glad to know I am still a friend of the community!
 
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NY vs. Trump is the 'weakest case I've seen in 60 years' of criminal law: Alan Dershowitz | Fox Business Video 60 years of experience in law. A law professor, in person observer in the court room. A liberal who is admittedly not a Trump supporter . All of the self proclaimed expertise on this and other threads has no standing on the Trump case to refute the academic knowledge of the law and actual court room experience of this man. This is the actual of the matter. I dare all of the liberals here to watch the entire video before make ill informed comments.


It take a lot of posts to combat the amount of liberal propaganda.

It's clear you have no argument to make based on NY State law.....you're only defense is to quote Dershowitze, who long ago gave up any objectivity in service to the MAGA media.
 
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I eagerly await any evidence that Biden coordinated anything against Trump. Until then this is nothing more then the typical tripe we see anytime Trump faces any sort of opposition.
Don't you find it strange that the #3 guy in the Biden DOJ Matthew Colangelo who left that Cush position to assist Bragg with this persecution? No nothing to see here.
 
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I know exactly what this case is about! Getting Trump is the only goal here.

Election interference from the same crowd who falsely cried Trump tried to steal an election.
I find that hard to credit since you claim to not even understand the charges.
 
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Don't you find it strange that the #3 guy in the Biden DOJ Matthew Colangelo who left that Cush position to assist Bragg with this persecution? No nothing to see here.
Do you have any direct accusations of wrong doing? I'm not impressed by insinuations of conspiracy.
 
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NY vs. Trump is the 'weakest case I've seen in 60 years' of criminal law: Alan Dershowitz | Fox Business Video 60 years of experience in law. A law professor, in person observer in the court room. A liberal who is admittedly not a Trump supporter . All of the self proclaimed expertise on this and other threads has no standing on the Trump case to refute the academic knowledge of the law and actual court room experience of this man. This is the actual of the matter. I dare all of the liberals here to watch the entire video before make ill informed comments.
Quote him were he claims the charges are bogus. Otherwise his opinion of the strength of the case is noted but not really relevant to your claims.
It take a lot of posts to combat the amount of liberal propaganda.
Yeah yeah, we get it. Liberals are always wrong in your view.
 
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The last few pages of this thread are a monument to your misinformed state on this off-topic case.
You seem to present a fair amount of misinformation.
You have never cited any "fair-minded observers" only Trump sycophants.

Alan Dershowitz does not fit your description. You just ignore anyone who disagrees with you.
He admitted on the stand that his income would probably be higher if Trump wins, but that is just his personal assessment.
He has made money off of the trial while the trial is ongoing.
You won't find anyone on here praising the character of Michael Cohen. What we do have is a witness saying: yeah I committed crimes with the defendant. Do the documents back his story? Yes. Is there any witness to any counternarrative? No.

False!

"Costello, a lawyer who gave Cohen legal advice in 2018, testified Cohen told him Trump knew nothing about the payments to Daniels, and that he handled them on his own. Costello rebuked prosecutors' claims that he was tasked by Trump to keep Cohen from cooperating.3 days ago"

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You just don't like what he had to say.
Merchan's reputation before this trial (and the RW attack dogs focused on him) was as an experienced and fair-minded judge. I do not see how it is obvious that he is biased.
His conduct in THIS trial is what is relevant. Not fair minded at all to even a casual observer his is obviously biased against Trump.
Gag orders are used to protect evidence and fairness in the court. They apply to all parties, lawyers, and anyone else under the court's jurisdiction. Trump is the only one *violating* those orders.
According to this analysis Cohen should have been gaged but was not. Why not?
Name ONE.
1. Gag order on Trump and not Cohen.

2.https://www.newsweek.com/former-fec-chairman-defends-donald-trump-alvin-bragg-wrong-1903219
From the above article: ""I am very disappointed that Judge Merchan barred this testimony while allowing Michael Cohen (not an expert) to describe the law—including a conclusion on the ultimate issue of Trump's guilt—for 'context.' He also allowed the prosecutors to do the same in opening," he said."
Dershowitz and Turley have blown up any credibility on Trump related matters a long time ago. They will defend anything against him. Where are the actual experts on NY criminal law commenting on this case?
You have no basis for this rant against these two men except that they disagree with you.
Trump appeals with a ferocity rarely seen. He keeps losing those appeals. This case is within the bounds of actual NY law. The issue to be decided (next week) is on the matter of facts sufficiency of evidence to hold a verdict that the jury will be making.
Why would a crooked judge grant Trump any appeals? This is no surprise.
We already know your partisan position.
As well we know yours!
 
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"Costello, a lawyer who gave Cohen legal advice in 2018, testified Cohen told him Trump knew nothing about the payments to Daniels, and that he handled them on his own. Costello rebuked prosecutors' claims that he was tasked by Trump to keep Cohen from cooperating.3 days ago"
So in topsy-turvy world, Cohen tells the truth when he's not under oath, and lies when he is under oath.
 
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