SC Senate Passes Bill Banning Affirmative Care For Minors

[Foamhead]

Wow. The fact that...

Okay we're done.

If anyone else wants to try, feel free.

 

[Foamhead]

We are talking about kids and medicalization of children. We aren't talking about what people look like. I know rhe person said they can tell. And in most cases I think you can tell if a person is a male or female. In some cases you can't. There is the rare person who can really look like the opposite sex based upon what they do to themselves. But as you pointed out that doesn't make them transgendered. They are still the same sex. And kids shouldn't be medicalized into that. Their brains are not developed enough, they dont have mental or emotional maturity to have that done to them. Especially when left alone the vast majority of them desist.

If you want to discuss trans issues on a larger scale I would say to go visit one of the other threads on the issue. This one should be reserved for dealing with the issues of kids and their situation.

You will need to provide evidence that kids need Affirmative Care. So far you haven't provided anything of that nature.

Do you guys just not read the posts?

I said twice now there are no tricks. They aren't trans, cross dressing, no surgery, nothing.

 

[BCP1928]

Do you guys just not read the posts?

I said twice now there are no tricks. They aren't trans, cross dressing, no surgery, nothing.

Doesn't make any difference. It's the non-conforming behavior that matters, the non-conforming appearance. If you can't tell by observing their appearance and behavior which set of reproductive organs they have then they are wicked sinners or mentally ill.

 

[Foamhead]

Doesn't make any difference. It's the non-conforming behavior that matters, the non-conforming appearance. If you can't tell by observing their appearance and behavior which set of reproductive organs they have then they are wicked sinners or mentally ill.

One more time, there are no tricks. They are not trans, cross dressing, no nothing.

Are these people really not understanding me or not able?

 

[BCP1928]

One more time, there are no tricks. They are not trans, cross dressing, no nothing.

Are these people really not understanding me or not able?

They dare not. Gender conformity is too important to their world view. Because you can't tell anything about their gonads from those pictures, those people are a threat to gender conformity even if there are no tricks.

 

[Foamhead]

They dare not. Gender conformity is too important to their world view. Because you can't tell anything about their gonads from those pictures, those people are a threat to gender conformity even if there are no tricks.

I'm confused... are you saying they are wicked or that the others think they are wicked? I'm getting mixed messages from you.

 

[BCP1928]

I'm confused... are you saying they are wicked or that the others think they are wicked? I'm getting mixed messages from you.

I tend to ironic responses, sorry. But yes, any departure from God's strict order that males should be "manly" and females should be "girly" and take up a fixed set of social roles is seen as either wickedness or mental illness. The problem with trans is not the "feel like a man" or "feel like woman" part of it--they really don't care what trans people feel. They just resent being forced to accomodate what they see as deviant behavior.

 

[Zaha Torte]

Then you cannot know whether they actually feel like a woman or not. That is, you cannot say that they don't.

We can with one hundred percent surety say that they do not know what it's like to feel like or be a woman because they are not a woman.

 

[Zaha Torte]

Okay we're done.

If anyone else wants to try, feel free.

That is a very reasonable and hormonally balanced reaction (-_-)

And polls decide whether a person is a man or not (-_-)

 

[BCP1928]

We can with one hundred percent surety say that they do not know what it's like to feel like or be a woman because they are not a woman.

How do you know? How do you even know that men and women have different feelings?

 

[BCP1928]

That is a very reasonable and hormonally balanced reaction (-_-)

And polls decide whether a person is a man or not (-_-)

No. You and others like you have seem to have taken on that duty for yourselves.

 

[Zaha Torte]

How do you know? How do you even know that men and women have different feelings?

Have you ever been in the same room with a man and a woman?

Have you ever held a conversation with a man or a woman?

Men are women are different.

 

[Zaha Torte]

No. You and others like you have seem to have taken on that duty for yourselves.

God took on that duty because the decision was made in the womb.

 

[BCP1928]

Have you ever been in the same room with a man and a woman?

Have you ever held a conversation with a man or a woman?

Men are women are different.

You mean they differ in other ways besides having different reproductive organs? And you can tell? Wow.

 

[BCP1928]

God took on that duty because the decision was made in the womb.

OK, I see. Men and women differ in other ways besides having different reproductive organs, and you can tell, but the differences are all ordained by God and any variation is wicked or evidence of mental illness.

 

[Zaha Torte]

You mean they differ in other ways besides having different reproductive organs? And you can tell? Wow.

You mock but you are the one acting like men and women are interchangeable when they are not. Men are not women and vice versa.

OK, I see. Men and women differ in other ways besides having different reproductive organs, and you can tell, but the differences are all ordained by God and any variation is wicked or evidence of mental illness.

Be it God or evolutionary biology - or whatever you want to attribute it to - our sex is determined at the moment of conception. Any claim that it is not is false.

Any claim that a man can become a woman or a woman a man is false.

Any claim that a person is not either a male or a female is false.

It is not about "wickedness" - it is about what is true - and what we can do to help these confused people.

A man or woman who claims to be the opposite sex (or none at all) may simply be a liar - they could also have a mental illness - or they could be a sexual fetishist.

It does not matter why - they are wrong - and they need to stop - they need our help.

 

[BCP1928]

You mock but you are the one acting like men and women are interchangeable when they are not. Men are not women and vice versa.

Be it God or evolutionary biology - or whatever you want to attribute it to - our sex is determined at the moment of conception.

What about other cultures where different traits and preferences are associated with biological sex? Is the entire culture wrong?

Any claim that it is not is false. Any claim that a man can become a woman or a woman a man is false.

What is being claimed is that a man can become a person with traits and behaviors we usually associate with women but still have the reproductive biology of a man. That person may wish to function socially as a woman rather than a man. He is not claiming to be a woman according to your definition. That is just a rhetorical trick you employ because you are not arguing honestly.

It is not about "wickedness" - it is about what is true - and what we can do to help these confused people.

A man or woman who claims to be the opposite sex may simply be a liar - but they could also have a mental illness - or they could be a sexual fetishist.

It does not matter why - they are wrong - and they need to stop - they need our help.

Part of their confusion depends on your assumption that the nature of the non-biological differences between men and women are yours to define and dictate.

 

[RileyG]

Then you cannot know whether they actually feel like a woman or not. That is, you cannot say that they don't.

That’s correct. I don’t know what it’s like to be a woman.

 

[BCP1928]

That’s correct. I don’t know what it’s like to be a woman.

Then how do you judge another's feelings as wrong?

 

[RileyG]

Then how do you judge another's feelings as wrong?

How would a man know what it’s like to be a woman?

Being a woman is about biology and genetics. XX chromosome. Just because some feels like something doesn’t make it a reality.

I can say I feel like I’m the President of the United States. Does that make me the POTUS? No.