People claim to want Jesus for president, but would they really?

[ViaCrucis]

No I’m not. The text definitely says that.

Then you should have no problem showing it.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

Explain how Jesus’s message is bad for the Religious Right.

Are you familiar with the Sermon on the Mount? How about the Parable of the Good Samaritan? Or the Judgment of the Nations?

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Adam56]

Are you familiar with the Sermon on the Mount? How about the Parable of the Good Samaritan? Or the Judgment of the Nations?

-CryptoLutheran

The Good Samaritan story is about personal charity. It is not about welfare. This is a very common mistake (or manipulation tactic more likely) leftists make.

2 Corinthians 9:7
Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

 

[Fantine]

Explain how Jesus’s message is bad for the Religious Right.

He preached about social justice about ten times more than anything else.
He befriended the pariahs of society.
He himself was a refugee in a strange land as a child.
He told the men stoning the woman that the one without sin should cast the first stone.
He said we should respect government--unlike Republican attempts to overthrow it.
What did he say about abortion or homosexuality? You'll have to help me out there.

 

[Fantine]

The Good Samaritan story is about personal charity. It is not about welfare. This is a very common mistake (or manipulation tactic more likely) leftists make.

2 Corinthians 9:7
Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

That quote is used mostly by those who don't want to give.

 

[Adam56]

He preached about social justice about ten times more than anything else.

No he didn’t.

The Legend of the Social Justice Jesus

Did Jesus come here to champion the cause of the poor? There’s no question God has a heart for the destitute. Even so, a careful study of the Gospels shows that Jesus’ principle purpose was redressing spiritual poverty, not rectifying social inequities.

www.str.org

Was Jesus a Social Justice Warrior?

Why did Jesus come to earth? Was it to help the poor and promote social justice? Greg explains that though Jesus cared about those issues, his main purpose was much weightier than resolving temporal problems.

www.str.org

 

[Adam56]

That quote is used mostly by those who don't want to give.

And yet you have no argument as to why it’s incorrect. Also it’s an appeal to motive fallacy.

 

[Adam56]

He himself was a refugee in a strange land as a child.

Egypt was part of the Roman Empire, Mary and Joseph did not cross borders illegally. Trying to use that story to defend illegal border crossings is a wicked twisting of scripture.

 

[rturner76]

Better Jesus be elected President than Moses. With Moses in control, women who get raped in a urban environment could be executed for not screaming loud enough to make a neighbor here them. Personally, I don't think they considered that rapists have the option of covering a woman's mouth or simply knocking her unconscious,

 

[Fantine]

Egypt was part of the Roman Empire, Mary and Joseph did not cross borders illegally. Trying to use that story to defend illegal border crossings is a wicked twisting of scripture.

Even when people welcome refugees it is still a tremendously traumatic experience. I am sure Jesus weeps for those whose journey was even more traumaticthan his due to the cruelty of others.

 

[Fantine]

And yet you have no argument as to why it’s incorrect. Also it’s an appeal to motive fallacy.

I also recall the couple in Acts who were struck dead because they did not share their abundance with others...

 

[discombobulated1]

Even when people welcome refugees it is still a tremendously traumatic experience. I am sure Jesus weeps for those whose journey was even more traumaticthan his due to the cruelty of others.

Maybe Jesus weeps (but He is in Heaven so....) over Americans who have been raped &/or murdered by illegals...

I think if Jesus weeps at all anymore, He just might weep over that--just a thought

 

[discombobulated1]

Better Jesus be elected President than Moses. With Moses in control, women who get raped in a urban environment could be executed for not screaming loud enough to make a neighbor here them. Personally, I don't think they considered that rapists have the option of covering a woman's mouth or simply knocking her unconscious,

wow, I usually get your posts but not this one.

I don't think Moses condoned rape. I have read the entire Old Testament and never saw anything remotely like this

 

[discombobulated1]

Egypt was part of the Roman Empire, Mary and Joseph did not cross borders illegally.

not to mention that God made it clear they had to go there. It looks like God is not into violating "Caesar's" laws... (now called Laws made by the US legislature)

 

[discombobulated1]

The Good Samaritan story is about personal charity. It is not about welfare. This is a very common mistake (or manipulation tactic more likely) leftists make.

Right. Did Jesus tell a parable about a man beaten badly and the person who stopped to help went to find a government worker?

LOL

 

[Adam56]

I also recall the couple in Acts who were struck dead because they did not share their abundance with others...

They were struck dead because of their deception.

 

[discombobulated1]

They were struck dead because of their deception.

True, they LIED

to the Holy Spirit

It says that right there in the Word.

But a lot of people just see what they want to see in the Word.... No wonder Jesus said few find the narrow way to heaven... most people are stuck in this world.. so stuck, apparently, they can't even see it

 

[discombobulated1]

I have even welcomed the moral failure of priests and politicians so I could have excuses to self-righteously look down on people who have more authority and attention than I get.

HUH????

!

 

[Aaron112]

It says that right there in the Word.

But a lot of people just see what they want to see in the Word.... No wonder Jesus said few find the narrow way to heaven... most people are stuck in this world.. so stuck, apparently, they can't even see it

K, and did you (or others) see where it is written In Scripture that Jesus is the Spirit ?

 

[Aaron112]

In my case, I have even welcomed the moral failure of priests and politicians so I could have excuses to self-righteously look down on people who have more authority and attention than I get.

HUH????

!

YEAH! COOL!