Creating a Humanzee

[Laodicean60]

Scientifically speaking, creating a humanzee would be no different from how we've created Ligers and Mules.

I don't think it is genetically possible. The others you mention could be done because they mated with their kind. I'm sure they tried with no luck with humanzees.

 

[Juvenal]

I asked a biologist if the mating of chimps and humans was possible.
His answer was, "That is an Unethical Question."
It is unethical to even ask the question...according to scientist.

Nah, it's not unethical to ask any question, as far as I'm aware, and this one in particular has already been answered with a tentative yes, by no less eminent a scientist than Richard Dawkins.

I'd imagine any scientist saying it's an unethical question would be saying it's unethical to do so.

(And as a matter of logic, you'd have to be able to ask the question in order to determine whether it was ethical to ask it.)

 

[Juvenal]

50% animal, 50% man. So yes, I would view a humanzee as part man. It's in the name, bro.

Analogy: vinegar = human, water = man

Say you mix 5% vinegar with water. What do you get? You still get vinegar.

Wait, what? Are you saying humans aren't animals? Is that what you believe?

 

[Offline4Better.]

Wait, what? Are you saying humans aren't animals? Is that what you believe?

Humans are animals, but with a spirit. That is what I believe as a Christian. Other religions have the right to believe differently, as we are granted freedom of religion, and freedom not to adhere to religion in the US and other parts of the western world.

 

[QvQ]

Nah, it's not unethical to ask any question, as far as I'm aware, and this one in particular has already been answered with a tentative yes, by no less eminent a scientist than Richard Dawkins.

I'd imagine any scientist saying it's an unethical question would be saying it's unethical to do so.

The Japanese during WWII asked a question.
"How long can a person survive in freezing water under varying circumstances?"
That is an unethical question.
The Japanese proceeded to experiment, using prisoners of war, to answer that question.

Dawkins may be eminent but that does not mean he is ethical
Dawkins has used his scientific eminence to trash Christianity for years.
Made big bucks doing it and yet he is now claiming that he "wants to live in a Christian culture."
Supposedly amongst Christians who he tells his acolytes to call "Stupid" if the Christian or anyone else dare Question Darwinism.
If Dawkins would allow this question about humanzees, then Dawkins is ethically challenged and stupid, as Dawkins has labeled anyone who questions his religion, Darwinism.
To Dawkins, some questions are allowed, some questions are stupid.
This question about humanzees is unethical.
Should not be asked or answered.

 

[AV1611VET]

Is it morally wrong for animals, like horses for example, to be enslaved by humans?

No.

 

[AV1611VET]

Is this an example of a humanzee?

 

[Landon Caeli]

Is this an example of a humanzee?

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He appears hardly strong enough to do any kind of manual labor. We're gonna need to work on his pedigree status. Just kidding.

 

[Landon Caeli]

This question about humanzees is unethical.
Should not be asked or ananswered

I sense this topic is more emotional than ethical for many posting here. I find that fascinating.

...I say that, because posters typically don't respond to posts that don't deserve answers. Yet, we have many posts.

I'm VERY interested in why that is.

 

[Landon Caeli]

I don't think it is genetically possible. The others you mention could be done because they mated with their kind. I'm sure they tried with no luck with humanzees.

But no, they say they're surprised it hasn't happened yet, considering it's entirely possible. Which I didn't know myself until today, which is why I was captivated by the topic after watching the documentary.

 

[QvQ]

Wait, what? Are you saying humans aren't animals? Is that what you believe?

Humans are not animals. They are in the flesh but they possess the spirit to create.
They have the inherent capacity to act heroically against their own individual self interest.
The men who hit the beach at Normandy, charging into the face of death against all instinct of self preservation, were not animals.
Men who enter burning buildings to save strangers are not animals.
Wolves may stand their ground as a pack but they will flee to save themselves rather than act to save other wolves.
There is too much of man that transcends animal, even though both are in the flesh.

 

[Laodicean60]

But no, they say they're surprised it hasn't happened yet, considering it's entirely possible. Which I didn't know myself until today, which is why I was captivated by the topic after watching the documentary.

Who is they?

 

[Landon Caeli]

Who is they?

Those guys who made the Liger said it's possible.

The Liger is the largest cat in the world if the father is a lion, and the mother a tiger... The other way around, and they're not so large (fun fact). They can weigh over 900 pounds.

Hercules, a liger, weighing 922 lbs. He's the largest cat in the world.

Liger - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Laodicean60]

Those guys who made the Liger said it's possible.

The Liger is the largest cat in the world if the father is a lion, and the mother a tiger... The other way around, and they're not so large (fun fact).

Those guys are wrong!

 

[Landon Caeli]

Those guys are wrong!

Oh? But 99 percent of our DNA coding sequences are the same as chimps... So... We probably can.

 

[Landon Caeli]

The video explains the science behind it. Even though it turned out Oliver wasn't quite a humanzee. He was actually a mutant.

 

[Laodicean60]

Oh? But 99 percent of our DNA coding sequences are the same as chimps... So... We probably can.

We also share a large percentage of DNA with mice. That is why they do medical experiments with them. We also share DNA with chickens, fruit flies, and even a banana.

 

[Landon Caeli]

We also share a large percentage of DNA with mice. That is why they do medical experiments with them. We also share DNA with chickens, fruit flies, and even a banana.

But not 99%.

Chimps are only two chromosomes off from humans - the *exact* same difference between lions and tigers.

 

[Laodicean60]

But not 99%.

Chimps are only two chromosomes off from humans - the *exact* same difference between lions and tigers.

Think about it. Since the monkey-to-man debate, you mean to say they haven't tried to inseminate a chimp to prove and end the debate?

 

[Landon Caeli]

Think about it. Since the monkey-to-man debate, you mean to say they haven't tried to inseminate a chimp to prove and end the debate?

It's a highly emotional topic. People try to silence anyone who even "talks" about it.

...Imagine the protests that would break out if it did occur - it would be chaos.