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And his people who never accept Christ’s free gift of salvation?
He has one people. He will save them all.

But now we are going outside the purpose of the OP.
 
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2 Corinthians 4:4 Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.

John 16:11 and about judgment, because the ruler of this world has been judged.

1 John 3:8 The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning.
The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work.




Hopefully this clears up the confusion that God would be running this Crazy Train down here, off the rails, as the Holy Spirit of Christ within the Saints, is the only thing holding the evil back.

Ephesians 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this
dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
“All authority in heaven and on earth”.

That means all authority.
 
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Also, that authority hasn’t established earthly rule. How am I so certain? Because I haven’t been able to wait in line for a long time just to hug Jesus! I’m excited about that. It’s a big deal! It hasn’t happened yet!
He said His kingdom isn’t the type of kingdom that is earthly. It’s a different type. But it’s here.

and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.”
— Mark 1:15

But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.
— Matthew 12:28
 
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I'm scared of the evil God is allowing.

It's like watching a trainwreck and being unable to look away...

So next, help with this.. how do we overcome this, and look away?

Is it a sin in and of itself? A failure of faith?

I can't stop being horrified, and I kinda wish I could. I wish I could turn my back, but it's almost too much.

When do we make peace with this? How do we?
We do it by looking to the cross. That was the most evil event in history. And God ordained it. This tells us that through we don’t understand, God has a purpose for evil. And He will ultimately use it all for His glory. We only need to trust.
 
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“All authority in heaven and on earth”.

That means all authority.
Yet Jesus said this: John 18:36 Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”

Perhaps Authority should be left in the hands of the Humble, who do not step on the Agency of their Creations.

{Post Ascension) -> 2 Corinthians 4:4
Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.
 
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He said His kingdom isn’t the type of kingdom that is earthly. It’s a different type. But it’s here.

and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.”
— Mark 1:15

But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.
— Matthew 12:28
Was Zechariah 14 and Joel 3 fully fulfilled? The end of Matthew 23 may explain why HIS kingdom isn't set up in AUTHORITY, here yet.
 
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Yet Jesus said this: John 18:36 Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”

Perhaps Authority should be left in the hands of the Humble, who do not step on the Agency of their Creations.

{Post Ascension) -> 2 Corinthians 4:4
Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.
Satan is god of this world in the same way that Dagon was the god of the Philistines. But Jesus is King. He has all authority.
 
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Was Zechariah 14 and Joel 3 fully fulfilled? The end of Matthew 23 may explain why HIS kingdom isn't set up in AUTHORITY, here yet.
I’m just taking Jesus at His word. If other want to give authority to the Deceiver, that’s on them.
 
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Satan is god of this world in the same way that Dagon was the god of the Philistines. But Jesus is King. He has all authority.
That is not what scripture says. Jesus specified that His Kingdom was not of this world. We are the Body of Christ. Christ's current Kingdom is ephemeral, in that our Body's will die. Even if we are raptured, our Body's will die and be changed in an instant. Dust (Flesh) cannot inherit the Kingdom of God.

It is the HOLY SPIRIT and OUR PROMISE of eternal LIFE that is Eternal. But, still, The POWER and THE GLORY, does not Rule here, yet. He depends on our response to HIM for HIS will to be done. He works through us, During this "Age of Gentiles".

Luke 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem shall be trodden down by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
 
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I’m just taking Jesus at His word. If other want to give authority to the Deceiver, that’s on them.
If God EXERCISED his Authority here on Earth, He would Be in Jerusalem. Jesus is in Heaven. The Holy Spirit is within US. Christians are not RULERS. Christians are to Demonstrate the Love of God. When God Exercises His Authority, here on earth, which I haven't once denied that He had... THE ENTIRE WORLD WILL KNOW.
 
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When This happens.... THEN Jesus will have ESTABLISHED His Authority over this Sin Rotted world.

Zechariah 14:3 Then the Lord (JESUS CHRIST) will go out to fight against those nations as He fights on a day of battle. 4 On that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which faces Jerusalem on the east. The Mount of Olives will be split in half from east to west, forming a huge valley, so that half the mountain will move to the north and half to the south.

God has always had Authority. The difference is, that God doesn't Abuse that Authority like Mankind does. When Jesus Christ Superman Lands on the Mount of Olives... Then.... He will be ESTABLISHING that Authority.

Has that happened yet?
 
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That is not what scripture says.

Yes it does.
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
— Matthew 28:18
Jesus specified that His Kingdom was not of this world.
He didn’t say it wasn’t in this world.

and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.”
— Mark 1:15
We are the Body of Christ. Christ's current Kingdom is ephemeral, in that our Body's will die. Even if we are raptured, our Body's will die and be changed in an instant. Dust (Flesh) cannot inherit the Kingdom of God.
Okay.
It is the HOLY SPIRIT and OUR PROMISE of eternal LIFE that is Eternal. But, still, The POWER and THE GLORY, does not Rule here, yet.
See Matthew 28:18
He depends on our response to HIM for HIS will to be done.
He doesn’t depend on us for anything.
He works through us, During this "Age of Gentiles".

Luke 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem shall be trodden down by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
Okay. That has to do with the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD, but okay.
 
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If God EXERCISED his Authority here on Earth, He would Be in Jerusalem. Jesus is in Heaven. The Holy Spirit is within US. Christians are not RULERS. Christians are to Demonstrate the Love of God. When God Exercises His Authority, here on earth, which I haven't once denied that He had... THE ENTIRE WORLD WILL KNOW.
He presented another parable to them, saying, “The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and sowed in his field; and this is smaller than all other seeds, but when it is full grown, it is larger than the garden plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and nest in its branches.”
— Matthew 13:31-32

His kingdom is growing slowing, sometimes imperceptibly. But it is growing. We have more believers alive today than 2000 years ago.
 
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When This happens.... THEN Jesus will have ESTABLISHED His Authority over this Sin Rotted world.

Zechariah 14:3 Then the Lord (JESUS CHRIST) will go out to fight against those nations as He fights on a day of battle. 4 On that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which faces Jerusalem on the east. The Mount of Olives will be split in half from east to west, forming a huge valley, so that half the mountain will move to the north and half to the south.

God has always had Authority. The difference is, that God doesn't Abuse that Authority like Mankind does. When Jesus Christ Superman Lands on the Mount of Olives... Then.... He will be ESTABLISHING that Authority.

Has that happened yet?
Yes.
 
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I’m just taking Jesus at His word. If other want to give authority to the Deceiver, that’s on them.

Yes it does.
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
— Matthew 28:18

He didn’t say it wasn’t in this world.

and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.”
— Mark 1:15

Okay.

See Matthew 28:18

He doesn’t depend on us for anything.

Okay. That has to do with the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD, but okay.
Justin Martyr got it wrong. They never imagined that God would replant Israel. The Anti-Christ will reign from Jerusalem first, as scripture in Daniel has always said, and Jesus confirmed.

Jesus hasn't returned.

Some theologians think Authority means... EXERCISING that authority. It doesn't. God is not like earthly kings that Constantly abuse their position of Authority. Scripture reveals that God does not micro manage. Satan is the one that Micro Manages. God steps in for an instant and with precision... rectifies things. ... then He allows people to proceed.

Having Authority doesn't demand that it is used in petty Human ways.
 
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Huh?!?

Acts 1 Truncated to show a scriptural point... Acts 1:6 So when they had come together, they asked Him, “Lord, are You restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?” 7 He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or periods that the Father has set by His own authority.... (No one knows the day nor the Hour)... 9 After He had said this, He was taken up ....., and suddenly two men in white clothes stood by them. 11 They said, This Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come in the same way that you have seen Him going into heaven.” ......12 Then they returned to Jerusalem from the mount called the Mount of Olives, which is near Jerusalem—a Sabbath day’s journey away.

So, You're asserting that the Son of God is physically walking on this earth... as in the Gospels... Right now?

He has SUPERMAN LANDED back onto the Mount of Olives.... Just as the Angel's promised? Zechariah 14:4 has happened? Are you sure you want to die on that hill?
 
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Yes it does.
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
— Matthew 28:18

He didn’t say it wasn’t in this world.

and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.”
— Mark 1:15

Okay.

See Matthew 28:18

He doesn’t depend on us for anything.

Okay. That has to do with the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD, but okay.
The disciples literally ask when Israel will be RESTORED... and Jesus binds their question to (No man knows the Day nor the Hour)..... and you're saying the DESTRUCTION of Jerusalem... "Restored" Literal Israel... as the Disciples had the same giant Jewish noses that I have... and knew of the Messianic Prophecy that God would RESTORE Literal Israel? You do know that Jews to this day reject Jesus because He didn't restore Literal Israel, as it is a very specific prophecy that the Messiah WILL fulfill?
 
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And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to keep all that I commanded you; and behold, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”
— Matthew 28:18-20

Hopefully this clears up the confusion that Satan is currently running things.

Thank you for this Hammster. I have always greatly disliked the argument by certain pre-millenial dispensationalists such as Hal Lindsey that the devil is currently in charge. I regard it as contrary to the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed and to the position of the Fathers of the Second Ecumenical Council, who rejected Chiliasm and instead embraced Amillenialism. It also contradicts the Paschal Homily of St. John Chrysostom, which describes Hell as despoiled and defeated by the victorious passion of our Lord, God and Savior Jesus Christ on the Cross.
 
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Thank you for this Hammster. I have always greatly disliked the argument by certain pre-millenial dispensationalists such as Hal Lindsey that the devil is currently in charge. I regard it as contrary to the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed and to the position of the Fathers of the Second Ecumenical Council, who rejected Chiliasm and instead embraced Amillenialism. It also contradicts the Paschal Homily of St. John Chrysostom, which describes Hell as despoiled and defeated by the victorious passion of our Lord, God and Savior Jesus Christ on the Cross.
Would you say that scripture reveals that The Devil has his people, by blinding their minds to the gospel... being the god of this world, while the Body of Christ is at war with this matter, by virtue of the Holy Spirit indwelling the Body of Christ?
 
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