Why Everyone Needs An AR-15

[BNR32FAN]

But the subject is not the round but the AR-15 and it's small form.

You didn’t say anything about the size of the rifle itself, your entire post was about the ammunition.

 

[ViaCrucis]

You are more likely to be murdered with a knife or cutting instrument, than a rifle; let alone an AR-15.

You are more likely to be murdered with hands fists or feet, than a rifle; let alone an AR-15.

You are more likely to be murdered with a weapon other than a firearm, hands fists or feet, or a knife or cutting instrument; than you are likely to be murdered by a rifle; let alone an AR-15.

Fear of being murdered by an AR-15 is a somewhat irrational fear.

Table 20

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And you're more likely to be killed by an AR-15 than a nuclear bomb.

So what's your point?

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

Ok I asked you this question and you didn’t answer before so I’ll ask again and please give me an honest answer this time. Do you deny the fact that innocent people are killed everyday in America?

Why would I deny that? Innocent people literally die everywhere, the United States isn't immune to that.

Now, I assume, you'll offer something as to why this is relevant here.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

Oh I don’t know maybe it has something to do with the fact that a nuke kills everyone within a 20 mile radius that makes this argument completely stupid.

Mutually assured annihilation worked to keep the US and USSR from destroying one another. I hope I never have to use a nuke, just like you hope you never have to use a gun. Also, doesn't have to be a big nuke. Maybe just a little nuke.

I'm still not seeing how my argument is any more stupid than the argument that everyone needs to own an AR-15.

Wouldn't you feel safer if you knew that nobody would mess with you because you're packing the glorious power of the atom on your hip?

-CryptoLutheran

 

[BNR32FAN]

Why would I deny that? Innocent people literally die everywhere, the United States isn't immune to that.

Now, I assume, you'll offer something as to why this is relevant here.

-CryptoLutheran

Never mind, if nothing clicks in your brain as to how this fact could have any relevance to the discussion then you simply don’t have the necessary mental capacity to comprehend anything I have to say.

 

[HARK!]

But the subject is not the round but the AR-15 and it's small form.

Actually, no, the subject is the AR-15. It doesn't matter which variety.

 

[Yarddog]

The following video walks through the history of advancements in long guns, from the hand cannon to the AR-15.

It details the importance of not endangering the weakest of our people, by forcing them to defend their own lives with "old," "clunky," "difficult to use," "relics."

No one needs an AR-15 or any assault weapon unless they in they are in the military or law enforcement. They are fun but not needed.

 

[HARK!]

And you're more likely to be killed by an AR-15 than a nuclear bomb.

With Biden poking the Bear and the Dragon, I'm more worried about getting nuked.

An AR-15, could be life saving in a zombie apocalypse.

How many civilians have been killed with AR-15s; and how civilians where killed at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

 

[HARK!]

No one needs an AR-15 or any assault weapon unless they in they are in the military or law enforcement. They are fun but not needed.

What do law enforcement need them for? What ever happened to Peace Officers?

 

[Yarddog]

What do law enforcement need them for? What ever happened to Peace Officers?

Have you ever seen police go up against criminals that armed with assault weapons, while they use pistols?

 

[HARK!]

Have you ever seen police go up against criminals that armed with assault weapons, while they use pistols?

Actually that last one I remember was here in Texas; and the cops didn't go up against the criminal at all; but they held back the parents of the children that were being slaughtered, from taking care of business.

 

[BNR32FAN]

No one needs an AR-15 or any assault weapon unless they in they are in the military or law enforcement. They are fun but not needed.

It’s not an assault rifle. By definition an assault rifle has select fire modes. The AR only has one fire mode which is semiautomatic only.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Actually that last one I remember was here in Texas; and the cops didn't go up against the criminal at all; but they held back the parents of the children that were being slaughtered, from taking care of business.

A bunch of spineless cowards. There’s no way I would’ve listened to any higher ranked officer or anybody for that matter and stayed outside hearing shots being fired in the school. If I were a cop in Uvalde I would’ve went in and I wouldn’t have cared about the consequences. I can’t imagine the shame they must feel now for sitting around doing nothing while those innocent kids were being killed. I’d much rather have lost my job or my life at least trying to stop the shooter.

 

[HARK!]

A bunch of spineless cowards. There’s no way I would’ve listened to any higher ranked officer or anybody for that matter and stayed outside hearing shots being fired in the school. If I were a cop in Uvalde I would’ve went in and I wouldn’t have cared about the consequences. I can’t imagine the shame they must feel now for sitting around doing nothing while those innocent kids were being killed. I’d much rather have lost my job or my life at least trying to stop the shooter.

I wouldn't want to have to live with that on my conscience; but let's leave it there. This subject could easily derail the thread.

 

[FireDragon76]

Why would a follower of the Prince of Peace need an AR-15?

 

[FireDragon76]

Did you watch that second video that I posted that started this little side discussion? A picture is worth a thousand words.

It's my understanding that the military uses FMJ because that way the bullet will pass through an enemy soldier, and possibly wound one or two more enemies. It takes two to carry a wounded soldier off the field; so for every soldier that is wounded, three are taken off the field.

Here it is:

I LOL when the chair blew apart.

The military uses FMJ because it's against the Hague Convention to use expanding or dum-dum rounds in war. Expanding rounds used to routinely produce horrific injuries like amputations (just look at the US Civil War for instance, where all the ammunition was expanding type), so their use in warfare was banned.

 

[rturner76]

The following video walks through the history of advancements in long guns, from the hand cannon to the AR-15.

It details the importance of not endangering the weakest of our people, by forcing them to defend their own lives with "old," "clunky," "difficult to use," "relics."

Does "everyone" include gang bangers, the cartels, and the right-wing racist groupies? Does everyone really mean everyone or all white males no matter their agenda? Should we include Al_Quida with "everyone?" or just your political allies?

Personally, I don't think everyone needs anything besides food, clothing, and shelter.

 

[rturner76]

Why would a follower of the Prince of Peace need an AR-15?

They wouldn't. But some want to have the ability to kill every person who isn't like them. I'm pretty sure "turn the other cheek" has nothing to do with "blowing away any competition in regard to race or religion."

 

[JosephZ]

It’s not an assault rifle. By definition an assault rifle has select fire modes. The AR only has one fire mode which is semiautomatic only.

This is true; however, the AR-15 was initially designed for the military. The M-16 is based on the AR-15 design. The AR-15 was designed to kill enemy combatants in the most efficient way possible. There's no reason for weapons like the AR-15 or those similar to it to be in the hands of civilians.

 

[HARK!]

The military uses FMJ because it's against the Hague Convention to use expanding or dum-dum rounds in war. Expanding rounds used to routinely produce horrific injuries like amputations (just look at the US Civil War for instance, where all the ammunition was expanding type), so their use in warfare was banned.

You've presented misinformation.

1.) The US abstained from signing that part of the agreement.
2.) There are many non expanding rounds, that are not FMJ.