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Iran Launches Attack on Israel

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rjs330

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I'm sure the military community appreciates you describing them as if they are mindless animals who need to be controlled, you must never have served or known anyone who has.
I didn't describe that way. But you just st did. The military is a highly trained force filled with experts in many fields. They have incredible organization methodology. Their expertise can be used for many things like helping during a disaster. I have many friends in the military and not a single one of them is a mindless animal. But every single one of them is prepared to kill people and break things when called upon to do something. Because they understand that's their purpose. They all hope they will never have to, but when called they will do it.
You obviously have never read up on the international criminal court or the Geneva convention, because it is illegal to target hospitals or civilians for any reason. You can't just claim an enemy might be there and blow it away.
I don't believe I said that. Did I actually say for any reason?
Lastly the ICC and the ICJ has ruled the Israel is likely committing genocide.
Likely is not the same things as is. We shall see.
 
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Iran is working on their delivery system for a nuclear weapon to launch against Israel. A large part of the discussion in Israel is undoubtedly about what nuclear facilities should be destroyed in the response.
I'm sure that's true and most likely has been for a long time. I actually be surprised if Israel doesn't already have a plan.
 
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Iran is working on their delivery system for a nuclear weapon to launch against Israel. A large part of the discussion in Israel is undoubtedly about what nuclear facilities should be destroyed in the response.
I agree. But our Father will destroy their launch capability and send terror upon them. It is written
Jeremiah 49:
34 The word of the Lord that came to Jeremiah the prophet against Elam in the beginning of the reign of Zedekiah king of Judah, saying,

35 Thus saith the Lord of hosts; Behold, I will break the bow of Elam, the chief of their might.

36 And upon Elam will I bring the four winds from the four quarters of heaven, and will scatter them toward all those winds; and there shall be no nation whither the outcasts of Elam shall not come.

37 For I will cause Elam to be dismayed before their enemies, and before them that seek their life: and I will bring evil upon them, even my fierce anger, saith the Lord; and I will send the sword after them, till I have consumed them:
 
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I agree. But our Father will destroy their launch capability and send terror upon them. It is written
Then we’re good to withdraw our forces and stop with the aid money?
 
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I just actually find all of this fascinating. I'm not afraid or concerned. The loss of life is tragic for sure. And no one celebrates it. Well no one but certain cultures like the Palestinians. But the rest of just want Hamas to surrender, the Palestinians to surrender and sign a peace treaty swearing they will never support any group who would attack Israel and not allow them to stage in their country. Then we can go on a our rebuilding Gaza and creating a thriving society with economic benefits all around.

But I have serious doubts that will ever happen because When I read scripture I about the last days as we get closer and closer to the final day there is a tremendous loss of life. I watch this with the eyes of prophecy and now that the time is getting closer and closer. And the thrill of seeing my Lord wells up within me. Come quickly Lord a Jesus.
 
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Every, single Hamas fighter has to be eliminated before a cease-fire? Good luck.

Iran’s tit-for-tat operation was widely known and a necessary face-saving action; normal. Israel upping the ante would have destabilized the situation.


The Houthis are back on it, the carrot didn’t work, but “more stick” isn’t always the answer.

The alternative of attacking them really isn’t an good option, either. Too bad international politics is so complicated!




We currently only fund our military to the tune of 3/4 of a $Trillion, this sounds even more expensive.

Your “truths“ are open to interpretation, please enjoy voting for whom you think would do things better.



Why must the US be enthralled to Israel?

Iran calls Israel little Satan
and great Satan is...?"
yeah
us
they chant death to Israel death to America
if you don't think Iran is also our problem you're living under a rock.
 
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Maybe the nuclear agreement with Iran was never reliable.


I’m no foreign policy wonk, nor do I have any expertise in international diplomacy, but, on the whole, I’d think that it would be better to have something written down between two, (or more nations) when it comes to forging agreements.

What President Trump did was tantamount to tearing up the “contract” and walk away.
We carried the biggest stick and had already given the carrots; we put down the stick and no Longer have many carrots.
 
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And you can target hospitals and schools if they harbor the enemy.
Actually, you can only do that if the that if the enemy is using them as an active fighting position - shooting at you from the building. Mere enemy presence is not a justification. Of course, as I've already pointed out, attacking diplomatic missions is an even greater offense.

Because according to the rules they aren't supposed to be there.
They're allowed to receive medical attention.
 
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Actually, you can only do that if the that if the enemy is using them as an active fighting position - shooting at you from the building. Mere enemy presence is not a justification. Of course, as I've already pointed out, attacking diplomatic missions is an even greater offense.


They're allowed to receive medical attention.
Actually if they are there acting in a way that is harmful to the enemy they can be targeted. So using it as storage for your weapons, staging areas, assault planning, logistics etc would all count.

Yes they can receive medical attention. That is true.
 
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Has Israel ever avowed their nuclear capability?
No, it seems the US probably looks the other way in that Israel is understood as being purely defensive whereas their enemies want to annihilate them ( which is Iran’s official policy).
 
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The problem is American evangelical Christians, who seem to have an unquenchable thirst for Muslim and Jewish blood in my opinion,...
Dude, what are you smoking?
 
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But the rest of just want Hamas to surrender, the Palestinians to surrender and sign a peace treaty swearing they will never support any group who would attack Israel and not allow them to stage in their country.
I suspect any Palestinian putting their signature on that treaty would be risking assassination.
 
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I suspect any Palestinian putting their signature on that treaty would be risking assassination.
And someone called ME bloodthirsty. Here I was offing a suggestion to put a stop to it and you had point a strong possibility they might kill one of their own because they want to be able shed more blood. I wonder who the real bloodthirsty ones are.
 
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Dude, what are you smoking?
1. I'm a woman, please exert the effort to get my gender correct.
2. I don't use drugs at all or alcohol outside religious observance.

I think the statement is pretty clear and speaks for itself. I fail to see the humour in the death of countless Jews and Muslims.
 
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1. I'm a woman, please exert the effort to get my gender correct.
What effort would that be? Was I supposed to ask your gender before I replied to you? I've never seen that done on any web forum.
2. I don't use drugs at all or alcohol outside religious observance.
Purim?
I think the statement is pretty clear and speaks for itself.
Yes it's clear alright, but I think it speaks more for you.
 
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1. I'm a woman, please exert the effort to get my gender correct.
2. I don't use drugs at all or alcohol outside religious observance.

I think the statement is pretty clear and speaks for itself. I fail to see the humour in the death of countless Jews and Muslims.
Nothing humorous about it at all.

But the point is it's delusional to think you can peacefully negotiate with people who's sworn purpose is to make the Jewish people extinct.
Islamic eschatology is just that, they want to kill every Jewish person on the planet.
For them the Resurrection cannot happen, until Jews are extinct.

and people who drink the taqiyya kool aid.. think oh no Muslims are the religion of peace, Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran don't want to eliminate the Jews they just want a 2 state solution.

They don't want a two state "solution" they want "from the (Jordan) River to the (Mediterranean) Sea"
that means elimination of the state of Israel, to be followed by elimination of the Jewish people.
Evangelicals absolutely do not want that, because of a promise that Jesus made. That until the Jews repent, and call on Him, He won't return.
In fact that's why Satan created Islam, in an attempt to kill off the Jews, so that he can retain stewardship of the Earth indefinitely.

But a thing to remember about Islam.. is that they are sanctioned by Allah to lie if it furthers the cause of Islam (the doctrine of Taqiyya). and that cause, is to kill all the Jews, and have Islam dominate the world so that the last day and the resurrection can take place.
They have no qualms with lying to further that while they surround Israel in a "ring of fire" and progress to nuclear weapons to realize their dream of a world without Israel or Jews. Thinking you can make peace with Iran, or Hezbollah, or Hamas, is reaching for the outstretched hand of a man with a dagger behind his back, you reach for it, he grabs you and pulls you into stabbing range and doesn't let go.

any Muslim who believes in the Qur'an and the Hadiths, believes in the eradication of Jews, and Christians when their version of Jesus comes back. They believe he will "break crosses" (end Christianity) and "kill pigs" (their euphemism for Jews) and end the Jizyah tax (a tax on non Muslims in Muslim controlled countries) why would he end that tax? Because it's conversion or death. The Qur'an boasts that Allah is the greatest of deceivers, don't be deceived into thinking you have a peaceful future with Islam.
 
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Nothing humorous about it at all.

But the point is it's delusional to think you can peacefully negotiate with people who's sworn purpose is to make the Jewish people extinct.
Islamic eschatology is just that, they want to kill every Jewish person on the planet.
For them the Resurrection cannot happen, until Jews are extinct.

and people who drink the taqiyya kool aid.. think oh no Muslims are the religion of peace, Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran don't want to eliminate the Jews they just want a 2 state solution.

They don't want a two state "solution" they want "from the (Jordan) River to the (Mediterranean) Sea"
that means elimination of the state of Israel, to be followed by elimination of the Jewish people.
Evangelicals absolutely do not want that, because of a promise that Jesus made. That until the Jews repent, and call on Him, He won't return.
In fact that's why Satan created Islam, in an attempt to kill off the Jews, so that he can retain stewardship of the Earth indefinitely.

But a thing to remember about Islam.. is that they are sanctioned by Allah to lie if it furthers the cause of Islam (the doctrine of Taqiyya). and that cause, is to kill all the Jews, and have Islam dominate the world so that the last day and the resurrection can take place.
They have no qualms with lying to further that while they surround Israel in a "ring of fire" and progress to nuclear weapons to realize their dream of a world without Israel or Jews. Thinking you can make peace with Iran, or Hezbollah, or Hamas, is reaching for the outstretched hand of a man with a dagger behind his back, you reach for it, he grabs you and pulls you into stabbing range and doesn't let go.

any Muslim who believes in the Qur'an and the Hadiths, believes in the eradication of Jews, and Christians when their version of Jesus comes back. They believe he will "break crosses" (end Christianity) and "kill pigs" (their euphemism for Jews) and end the Jizyah tax (a tax on non Muslims in Muslim controlled countries) why would he end that tax? Because it's conversion or death. The Qur'an boasts that Allah is the greatest of deceivers, don't be deceived into thinking you have a peaceful future with Islam.
Jews don't believe in the devil, fyi. What is your expertise on Islam? Did you take a course in Islamic studies? Have you visited a mosque or a Muslim country?

I do not like Islam and am not at all inclined to defend it. However during the holocaust it was mainly Muslim countries that sheltered and defended Jews while Christian America and Europe told us to buzz off:


Also:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPSCzzuXUAAO1H8?format=jpg&name=small (Muslim woman hiding yellow star of her neighbour)

I have never once seen any of these stories posted or acknowledged by an evangelical or American Christian on any forum or blog. I actually checked. I wonder why that is? Because you guys don't care and it conflicts with your animus towards Muslims and Arabs.

Jews are also allowed to lie or break most Mitzvot if it is in preservation of the life of oneself or another. if someone were after you with a gun and I were hiding you in my house, I can lie and say I never saw you without it being a sin. If some nazi pointed a gun at me and told me to eat a bacon sandwich, I can do it and in fact am obligated to do so under Halakha.

I'm not blind to the violence and antisemitism in Islamic countries, but don't act like they're any worse then how Christians have historically treated us either. Christians in the U.S. support Israel, not the Jews that live there. Christian Zionist types think G-d is going to give Israel to them after Jesus comes back to wipe the rest of us out, and therefore support Jews only so far as it plays into their apocalyptic beliefs.
 
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"Once again, Benjamin Netanyahu and his government are bent on ignoring the wishes of allies who have gone the extra mile to help Israel against its enemies. His ultranationalist allies are demanding a crushing attack on Iran. One of them said Israel should "go berserk".


Let's see what they do and pray for the peace of Jerusalem. - Psalm 122:6
 
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