‘If We Don’t Take a Stand Now’ against Hostility, the Church Could Become ‘Voiceless,’ Pastor Warns

[BCP1928]

Sorry to disappoint but there was no evidence of that fish transitioning to another species. Sadly it's still like a Mexican walking fish, it still hangs around swamps so it never became a mammal or or insect or bird or any other species. it remained the same species while it adapted to it's environment by growing legs to help it forage for food on the waters shore.

As I've tried to explain to others, we don't have any evidence of any species transitioning to a different species. Your example showed the bleeding obvious adaptation we see happening all around us. Creatures grow long hair in cold environments etc.. this has nothing to do with evolution and everything to do with adaptation for survival

Do you ever tell the truth about anything?

 

[Estrid]

Wow, this thread really blew up while I wasn't looking, thanks to all the evolution discussion. I'd swear the infamous creationist Matt Powell was running through the thread, thanks to all the "something from nothing" and "pigs (or other critters) from rocks" comments, which are some of his most well-known nonsense.

We do have a problem that there are many creationists who view a number of scientific theories, notably including the Theory of Evolution, as assaults against Christianity. However, they confuse their interpretations with Christianity in general, or possibly they assert that their interpretations must be what all Christians should believe. I don't really see any way to reconcile this, since science isn't going to go away, except for waiting for those particular creationists to drive down their own numbers. As some arguments get more absurd (like something from nothing or pigs from rocks), more people are going to see them as counterproductive strawmen.

Creationists acting like idiots are an assault
on Christianity which is an HONEST and
HONOURABLE faith.

 

[Larniavc]

I will give my hose to anyone who ever finds one.

I linked you to tiktaalik.

Tiktaalik - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

There is you transitional fossil.

 

[Dan1988]

How far away from a state university do you live? Such institutions usually have large fossil collections which they will be glad to show you if you ask politely and try not to rant at them about how the theory of evolution is a lie.

There's no need to travel to see exhibitions, since all of the interesting fossils can be viewed online. I put a link to a short video up, which proves that transitional fossils don't exist and nobody had any objections or arguments or counter evidence to put forward. Nobody dared because there is no argument, the matter is settled, they simply don't exist no matter how much faith you apply to the theory

 

[Larniavc]

Nobody dared because there is no argument,

Let’s turn this around. What do yo think a transitional fossil should look like?

 

[Dan1988]

I linked you to tiktaalik.

Tiktaalik - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

There is you transitional fossil.

It's not mine or anybody's transitional fossil because it ain't one. It doesn't qualify so you'll have to try harder

 

[Estrid]

Deluded Dawkins, conveniently neglected to mention that his theory is baseless because nobody has ever found one of those transitional fossils. I will give my hose to anyone who ever finds one. I know that nobody will ever find one because they don't exist period

Funny. First you said " too many gaps"
meaning there are some transitions ,
but not a complete set.
Changing your story.

 

[Dan1988]

Let’s turn this around. What do yo think a transitional fossil should look like?

OK, how about a pig with wings. I've heard the saying, "yeah right, pigs will fly" maybe that or something similar which incorporates two species in the one animal would work a treat

 

[Larniavc]

Sadly it's still like a Mexican walking fish,

That’s a transitional organism. The direct link between fish and tetrapod actually alive today!

 

[Estrid]

I didn't make up the thousands, as I know thousands of Christians are scientists and every single true Christian rejects it as a lie from hell. Reason being, you can't be a Christian and not believe in God at the same time. God said He created everything in a finished mature state, Darwin comes along and says, no God's lying believe in me I'm smarter than God.

That's the dilemma we face, I know the choice is difficult for many so we have the opposing views.

In other words, you have no citation and
made it up.
And s,ipped the important part:
Not obe of them has even one fact against
evolution. Just opinions.
Like you. Opinions. No facts.

 

[Dan1988]

Funny. First you said " too many gaps"
meaning there are some transitions ,
but not a complete set.
Changing your story.

No I meant to say there are more holes in the theory of evolution than a block of Swiss Cheese has

 

[Larniavc]

OK, how about a pig with wings.

Come on, be serious. Don’t play dumb. Something that ToE actually predicts.

 

[Dan1988]

That’s a transitional organism. The direct link between fish and tetrapod actually alive today!

Nope, they're all Amphibians so same species. Nice try

 

[Dan1988]

Come on, be serious. Don’t play dumb. Something that ToE actually predicts.

Sorry, I've been told my sense of humor is rather dull. The ToE claims that one species can change to a different species over time. The problem is always the same one, that being the mysterious lack of any evidence

 

[Estrid]

No I meant to say there are more holes in the theory of evolution than a block of Swiss Cheese has

That's even better. Swiss cheese is mostly solid.

Denying you charged your story, then changing
it again is not the behaviour of a person interested
in speaking the truth.

 

[Larniavc]

The ToE claims that one species can change to a different species over time.

What time frame are we talking about? How long does the change take?

 

[Dan1988]

In other words, you have no citation and
made it up.
And s,ipped the important part:
Not obe of them has even one fact against
evolution. Just opinions.
Like you. Opinions. No facts.

Well we can't provide any facts about a fictitious theory, because the theory don't have any facts to support it so how can we argue against something which doesn't even exist.
If someone presented some evidence, rather than asking me to have faith in some wild unproven theory and find faults with it. I'm convinced that the whole thing only exists in the minds of the believers. I personally wouldn't like to go for a trip inside the minds of those who prop it up as it would be a creepy journey

 

[7thKeeper]

Tiktaalik

Tiktaalik - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Now wait till he wants you to show him some kind of monstrous chimera, which if it would exist, would cause the current theory of evolution be thrown in the garbage bin.

Edit: While still writing this, I saw that he already had done this. Damn if he isn't predictable.

 

[Dan1988]

That's even better. Swiss cheese is mostly solid.

Denying you charged your story, then changing
it again is not the behaviour of a person interested
in speaking the truth.

I can see that I'm not going to win you over and you will never capitulate. I just worry that you may have reached your stronghold, fortified position before giving other schools of thought a fair chance.

It's all well and good to hold firm to a position after it has been tested and proven to be true based on facts, rather than blind faith

 

[Dan1988]

What time frame are we talking about? How long does the change take?

I'm not making the claim. I'm paraphrasing Darwin's theory, which he claimed takes around 100 million years for the process to complete.