Republicans Rush to delete material from "credible source" who turned out to be a Russian asset

[essentialsaltes]

CBS News later obtained what Shapley said were his contemporaneous notes of the meeting in which Shapley wrote, "Weiss stated – He is not the deciding person".[16]

House releases overview of evidence against Biden

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Actually, Shapley's version of what Weiss said is contradicted by Weiss himself, and three other people who were at the meeting.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

House releases overview of evidence against Biden

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Actually, Shapley's version of what Weiss said is contradicted by Weiss himself, and three other people who were at the meeting.

Feigned ignorance - "I don't remember", "I don't recall" is NOT refutation or contradiction.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Feigned ignorance

You're accusing them of lying under oath?

FWIW, these people either are, or have, careful lawyers, who aren't going to testify to a negative.

"He didn't pick his nose during the meeting." What if it turns out he did and it's on camera? Then you've said something false under oath. "I don't recall him picking his nose during the meeting."

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

You're accusing them of lying under oath?

FWIW, these people either are, or have, careful lawyers, who aren't going to testify to a negative.

"He didn't pick his nose during the meeting." What if it turns out he did and it's on camera? Then you've said something false under oath. "I don't recall him picking his nose during the meeting."

I said precisely what I meant. They feigned ignorance. None of them "could remember".

 

[essentialsaltes]

I said precisely what I meant. They feigned ignorance.

feign​

transitive verb
1a: to give a false appearance of : induce as a false impression

You're accusing them of false testimony under oath.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

feign​

transitive verb
1a: to give a false appearance of : induce as a false impression

You're accusing them of false testimony under oath.

No, feigning ignorance is claiming that you just can't remember. Funny that all of them can't remember.
Refutation on the other hand, means saying, "No, that didn't happen. This is what was said: (explain)"

The latter permits inquiry. The former does not. Not remembering an occasional fact or figure of an incident is one thing: not remembering anything incriminatory is something different altogether.

 

[essentialsaltes]

No, feigning ignorance is claiming that you just can't remember. Funny that all of them can't remember.

Well, that's not what they did.

Refutation on the other hand, means saying, "No, that didn't happen.

“I do not remember – I don’t – he didn’t say that. ... if he would have said that, I would have remembered it,”

And it's not like they didn't remember the meeting. They remember lots of details, as does Weiss himself.
Ryeshia Holley ... added she thought Shapley may have been confused or misunderstood what transpired at the meeting.

Witnesses agreed with some of Weiss’ assertions​

not remembering anything incriminatory is something different altogether.

What if nothing incriminating happened?

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

Well, that's not what they did.



“I do not remember – I don’t – he didn’t say that. ... if he would have said that, I would have remembered it,”

And it's not like they didn't remember the meeting. They remember lots of details, as does Weiss himself.
Ryeshia Holley ... added she thought Shapley may have been confused or misunderstood what transpired at the meeting.

Witnesses agreed with some of Weiss’ assertions​

What if nothing incriminating happened?

Well, nothing is going to come of this anyway, as we all know. No sense in belaboring it. I've said what I had to say about it.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Well, nothing is going to come of this anyway, as we all know.

Certainly if no evidence is ever discovered, as opposed to tales.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

Certainly if no evidence is ever discovered, as opposed to tales.

Sure, if you ignore text messages, emails, bank records, transfers, and shell companies and all the paper trail, as a segment of media insists on doing.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Sure, if you ignore text messages, emails, bank records, transfers, and shell companies and all the paper trail, as a segment of media insists on doing.

The crimes are: bribery, abuse of power, and obstruction of justice.

You have asserted that President Joe Biden should be indicted for these three crimes.

How do the bank records or loan repayments or emails or whatever make the case for these crimes? Lead us down the paper trail that you assert exists. Who bribed whom for what?

 

[The Barbarian]

You really can't trust what Trump says. Trump nominated Weiss for the role. The two senators didn't object, but they didn't pick Weiss. Trump did.

As Trump lies go, that's far from the most egregious one. But he did lie once again.

 

[The Barbarian]

You have asserted that President Joe Biden should be indicted for these three crimes.

How do the bank records or loan repayments or emails or whatever make the case for these crimes? Lead us down the paper trail that you assert exists. Who bribed whom for what?

Today's winner. They hate it when you ask for evidence.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

You have asserted that President Joe Biden should be indicted for these three crimes.

How do the bank records or loan repayments or emails or whatever make the case for these crimes? Lead us down the paper trail that you assert exists. Who bribed whom for what?

I have told you what exists and what charges were considered, with links upthread.

I'm not going to take six hours to carefully lay out a legal case. Please feel free to read the links I cited (and perhaps others have as well).

 

[essentialsaltes]

I'm not going to take six hours to carefully lay out a legal case.

No one's asking for a 80 page indictment document. Can you fill in the blanks Mad Libs style? It shouldn't take six hours.

Who bribed whom for what?

___________...bribed....___________...for..._________ .
proper name.................proper name...........official act

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

No one's asking for a 80 page indictment document. Can you fill in the blanks Mad Libs style? It shouldn't take six hours.



___________ bribed ___________ for _________ .
proper name.................proper name..........official act

Nah. Dinner. Please feel free to read the articles and arguments previously posted.

 

[KCfromNC]

Nah. Dinner. Please feel free to read the articles and arguments previously posted.

The arguments supported by literal failed Russian misinformation attempts? That's a pretty low bar, even for far right propaganda.

 

[Arcangl86]

Nah. Dinner. Please feel free to read the articles and arguments previously posted.

The amount of time you spent on this post could have just as easily been used to answer the question. It's really beginning to start to look like you have nothing.

 

[The Barbarian]

Well, nothing is going to come of this anyway, as we all know.

Comer seems to have admitted that he can't even get all republicans to take part in the witch hunt. That's what a lack of evidence will do. The real question now, is "when did the House republicans know that the evidence they were telling us about, did not exist?"

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

Comer seems to have admitted that he can't even get all republicans to take part in the witch hunt. That's what a lack of evidence will do. The real question now, is "when did the House republicans know that the evidence they were telling us about, did not exist?"

Emails, messages, documents, and financial records are indeed evidence.