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[truthpls]

You don't know?

I looked it up. Tks

 

[SimplyMe]

So you admit they can be online. OK. That means a remote hack is as plausible as the bic pen hack.

Only if you ignore the fact they are only connected a day or two every year, and further ignore all the other security provision to prevent it. Again, do some research so that you quit sounding ignorant (please note this means uninformed on this topic, it has nothing to do with intelligence or knowledge on other topics).

You seem so politically invested in the idea that there was some type of election fraud that you can't look at the evidence, and your claims look downright silly based against reality.

 

[truthpls]

Only if you ignore the fact they are only connected a day or two every year,

So they CAN be connected. That is the point. They can whirr into life at a certain time as commanded. Well, it seems to me that super hackers should or could be able to get them to whirr whenever they like.

and further ignore all the other security provision to prevent it.

Provisions can probably be overridden by the sort of operation I mentioned.

Again, do some research so that you quit sounding ignorant (please note this means uninformed on this topic, it has nothing to do with intelligence or knowledge on other topics).

Unless you admit you are ignorant, you are the one sounding ignorant. We don't know!

You seem so politically invested in the idea that there was some type of election fraud that you can't look at the evidence, and your claims look downright silly based against reality.

The so called evidence you offer is how it is supposed to or usually would work. That doesn't apply is there are super hackers at work. We do not know. Just admit it.

But be that as it may, what the topic is about is the situation along the border. Why do I get the feeling you might be siding with the wide open border folks here?

 

[7thKeeper]

So they CAN be connected. That is the point. They can whirr into life at a certain time as commanded. Well, it seems to me that super hackers should or could be able to get them to whirr whenever they like.

Provisions can probably be overridden by the sort of operation I mentioned.

Unless you admit you are ignorant, you are the one sounding ignorant. We don't know!

The so called evidence you offer is how it is supposed to or usually would work. That doesn't apply is there are super hackers at work. We do not know. Just admit it.

But be that as it may, what the topic is about is the situation along the border. Why do I get the feeling you might be siding with the wide open border folks here?

Super hackers? What do you live in, a movie? As someone working in IT, speaking of hackers like they're some sort of magicians just gives me the chuckles.

 

[A2SG]

We do not know. Just admit it.

Sounds like good advice.

-- A2SG, maybe you should follow it....

 

[truthpls]

Super hackers? What do you live in, a movie? As someone working in IT, speaking of hackers like they're some sort of magicians just gives me the chuckles.

Ha. The context was talking about a possible operation where intelligence computer experts hacked election machines. In that case it is a lot more than hackers. It would mean looking at all phases of the process and buildings, machines, workers etc. You may be imagining a lower level thing where some IT worker was involved or attempting something. We don't know. Not all hackers are equal.

 

[SimplyMe]

So they CAN be connected. That is the point. They can whirr into life at a certain time as commanded. Well, it seems to me that super hackers should or could be able to get them to whirr whenever they like.

Provisions can probably be overridden by the sort of operation I mentioned.

Unless you admit you are ignorant, you are the one sounding ignorant. We don't know!

The so called evidence you offer is how it is supposed to or usually would work. That doesn't apply is there are super hackers at work. We do not know. Just admit it.

But be that as it may, what the topic is about is the situation along the border. Why do I get the feeling you might be siding with the wide open border folks here?

Nothing like trying to change the subject when you have lost a debate. There are plenty of posts on recent threads about my opinions and I doubt you have any clue what my political beliefs are.

 

[7thKeeper]

Ha. The context was talking about a possible operation where intelligence computer experts hacked election machines. In that case it is a lot more than hackers. It would mean looking at all phases of the process and buildings, machines, workers etc. You may be imagining a lower level thing where some IT worker was involved or attempting something. We don't know. Not all hackers are equal.

That's what I meant by you living in a movie. That would require tremendous effort, several steps where your attempts could be detected (and considering how carefully monitored this stuff is, very likely) and what did you manage in the end? You changed votes in one machine, possibly in a manner where anyone looking at it would go "that can't be right" and investigate it and you still would have changed so little that it wouldn't affect the end result of a national election.

No one even bothers with that, because the risk to payoff ratio is horrendous. Social manipulation is a better way to try to achieve that, less risky and harder to detect and point out.

 

[Larniavc]

No one even bothers with that, because the risk to payoff ratio is horrendous. Social manipulation is a better way to try to achieve that, less risky and harder to detect and point out.

Super hackers are more evocative. It’s hard to be afraid of trolls on websites telling you what you already think. Much easier to be afraid of super competent shadow agencies like off of the tele.

 

[KCfromNC]

You’re right. It’s 1,265

Three Years Since the Jan. 6 Attack on the Capitol

www.justice.gov

The attempt to conflate arrests years after the event with mass arrests on a single date is noted.

 

[KCfromNC]

If the death penalty is appropriate for disorderly conduct and trespassing then I think public intoxication and counterfeiting should qualify as well

Good for you, thanks for sharing.

 

[KCfromNC]

There is no burden of proof in this case. The claims were that the election could and should be trusted including the machines. That was wrong.

If you want us to believe the last sentence, the first is in error.

 

[KCfromNC]

So how are mail in ballots verified exactly?

Seems like something one might research before making wild accusations about the security of elections here in the US. At least if one were interested in being taken seriously.

 

[Belk]

Super hackers? What do you live in, a movie? As someone working in IT, speaking of hackers like they're some sort of magicians just gives me the chuckles.

 

[BPPLEE]

The attempt to conflate arrests years after the event with mass arrests on a single date is noted.

The end result is the same

 

[truthpls]

Nothing like trying to change the subject when you have lost a debate. There are plenty of posts on recent threads about my opinions and I doubt you have any clue what my political beliefs are.

Funny you seem to almost believe that. The machines both can be hacked and were in seconds in front of a judge, They also can be connected remotely to the net which shows that they also can be hacked remotely. There is nothing to lose, we do not know. Things were suspicious and we don't know what happened if anything. You cannot win. All you could do is admit not knowing also, and we can pretend it's a tie

 

[Belk]

Funny you seem to almost believe that. The machines both can be hacked and were in seconds in front of a judge, They also can be connected remotely to the net which shows that they also can be hacked remotely. There is nothing to lose, we do not know. Things were suspicious and we don't know what happened if anything. You cannot win. All you could do is admit not knowing also, and we can pretend it's a tie

Oh? How? What vulnerabilities do they have and how can they be exploited?

 

[truthpls]

That's what I meant by you living in a movie. That would require tremendous effort, several steps where your attempts could be detected (and considering how carefully monitored this stuff is, very likely) and what did you manage in the end? You changed votes in one machine, possibly in a manner where anyone looking at it would go "that can't be right" and investigate it and you still would have changed so little that it wouldn't affect the end result of a national election.

No. If such an operation involving world class intelligence operatives (and support for any security locally that needed bypassing etc) happening it could not have been detected obviously. Now if some janitor accessed a room they should not have or some such, that would have been detected. You seem to live in a Pollyanna or Andy Griffith show movie where all is like Mayberry and they are playing the glad game.

No one even bothers with that, because the risk to payoff ratio is horrendous.

They actually do all sorts of intelligence operations all over the world all the time. Saying no one 'bothers' with that is absurd. The election in the US was also important for a lot of powerful people in the world. Now if you admitted no or almost no ID voting and untrustworthy machines etc were a problem and should be addressed before another election, you might have a leg to stand on.

Social manipulation is a better way to try to achieve that, less risky and harder to detect and point out.

No doubt there was that as well. It is no secret the media including the social internet media was hopelessly biased.

 

[truthpls]

Oh? How? What vulnerabilities do they have and how can they be exploited?

It seems to me that the guy hacking the machine in front of a judge in minutes proved it was vulnerable to say the least.

 

[truthpls]

Seems like something one might research before making wild accusations about the security of elections here in the US. At least if one were interested in being taken seriously.

On the issue of mail in ballots that was not a major focus of the thread or OP. Asking a poster who was talking about how secure it was for a little info was not a crime. Neither was it something that affects the general topic here at all. Pretending it was shows you are skating on thin ice.