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Trump team argues assassination of rivals is covered by presidential immunity

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What will people that do not like him do if he wins and it is proven to be a fair election or even if people choose not to look into whether it is fair or not?
Same thing I did last time he won, despair for my country.
 
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Yes. He left at around shortly after 8:00 a.m.
so would it not stand to reason that if he truly wanted to stay in power and was willing to use violence to do it he would have forced law enforcement's hand after the clock hit non Eastern time? What he does instead is take the issue to court that IS the way to deal with if you have disputes.
 
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If he truly wanted to stay in power no matter what why would that stop him? There are plenty of people who refuse to leave peacefully from places every day. Moreover, I am still not conveinced that he had anything to do with January 6th in as much as ordering it or otherwise support it it..
Blind as a bat.<sigh>
 
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Put what into practice killing people? Well, we are not God so I do not know by you all's logic if he would or not, but what is to say he is that kind of person?
Well, yes. From the article in the OP:
Former President Trump’s legal team suggested Tuesday that even a president directing SEAL Team Six to kill a political opponent would be an action barred from prosecution given a former executive’s broad immunity to criminal prosecution. The hypothetical was presented to Trump attorney John Sauer who answered with a “qualified yes” that a former president would be immune from prosecution on that matter or even on selling pardons.


If this were true, what would stop current President Biden from sending a SEAL team (except simple human decency) to kill his opponents in the next election? See where this is going?
 
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I am not convinced. I have faith.
My serenity is not based on polls.
do what? what are you saying that you have faith he will not win faith that there will be protests what?
 
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so would it not stand to reason that if he truly wanted to stay in power and was willing to use violence to do it he would have forced law enforcement's hand after the clock hit non Eastern time? What he does instead is take the issue to court that IS the way to deal with if you have disputes.
He tried that and failed on Jan. 6.
 
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If he truly wanted to stay in power no matter what why would that stop him? There are plenty of people who refuse to leave peacefully from places every day.
Just like those others who refuse to leave places that they do not have the legal right to be in he would have been physically removed from the White House. I suspect even Trump would not want the publicity that the video of him being removed like a recalcitrant toddler would get.
 
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so would it not stand to reason that if he truly wanted to stay in power and was willing to use violence to do it he would have forced law enforcement's hand after the clock hit non Eastern time? What he does instead is take the issue to court that IS the way to deal with if you have disputes.
He did want to stay in power and he DID use violence! You are completely ignoring all that happened before Jan 20, 2021

He walked out of the White House peacefully....so what? The damage he inflicted was already done.
 
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She would not have to win if Biden steps down. You understand this, correct?
If he were to step down BEFORE the election she would need to win. She only gets to be president without an election if Biden should die in office or be removed before his term is up.
 
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If he were to step down BEFORE the election she would need to win. She only gets to be president without an election if Biden should die in office or be removed before his term is up.
...or step down in which case she is sworn in as president at that time and is president for the remainder of the term.
 
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Just like those others who refuse to leave places that they do not have the legal right to be in he would have been physically removed from the White House. I suspect even Trump would not want the publicity that the video of him being removed like a recalcitrant toddler would get.
I KNOW that is what I am saying if he truly intended to use violence as a way to stay in power would it not be reasonable that he would violently resist leaving? Instead according to the poster that I asks that question he leaves four HOURS before his term is up.
 
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so you are claiming that Trump will murder people that do not agree with him ( or even have it done?)
It’s more that Ex Presidents’ Trumps legal team are asserting that this is Ex’s President Trumps right and that Ex Present’s Trumps’ should be able to do so.

Quite why Ex President Trump’s instructed his legal team to do so is an absolute mystery.
 
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I KNOW that is what I am saying if he truly intended to use violence as a way to stay in power would it not be reasonable that he would violently resist leaving?
He's an obese 70 something who has done nothing physically taxing in decades if ever, the amount of violence he can put out would be comical.
 
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...or step down in which case she is sworn in as president at that time and is president for the remainder of the term.
Yes in which case if she wished to remain President after his term concluded which would be January 20th of next year or in the case of election November 5th of this year if she wished to remain in power after his term was over she would need to win the election.
 
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What will people that do not like him do if he wins and it is proven to be a fair election or even if people choose not to look into whether it is fair or not?
Not try and do an Insurrection.
 
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do what? what are you saying that you have faith he will not win faith that there will be protests what?

You say there's a decent chance we will find out what will occur if Trump is reelected. I tell you I am not convinced. Biden beat Mr Trump handily before all the indictments. Most Americans are tired of nonstop chaos that surrounds Donald Trump. I have faith in that.

There's little doubt protests will hinder Donald Trump should he somehow take office again. He is literally asking for it by running for president.
 
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You say there's a decent chance we will find out what will occur if Trump is reelected. I tell you I am not convinced. Biden beat Mr Trump handily before all the indictments. Most Americans are tired of nonstop chaos that surrounds Donald Trump. I have faith in that.
I wish I could share your optimism.
 
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Blind as a bat.<sigh>
How so? Again did he or did he not peacefully leave the white house? When asked this question you said he did so roughly four HOURS before the end of his term. If he was going to use violence to stay in power he would not have done so and would have instead violently resisted at noon.
 
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