Mission of the VA is to serve veterans, not unauthorized migrants: Darin Selnick

[Valletta]

Mission of the VA is to serve veterans, not unauthorized migrants: Darin Selnick | Fox News Video

Concerned Veterans for America and Air Force veteran Darin Selnick discusses Veteran Affairs facing scrutiny for medical care for migrants and the calls for Congress to investigate.

www.foxnews.com

Mission of the VA is to serve veterans, not unauthorized migrants: Darin Selnick
Concerned Veterans for America and Air Force veteran Darin Selnick discusses Veteran Affairs facing scrutiny for medical care for migrants and the calls for Congress to investigate.

Some U.S. veterans die because they can't get health care but the Biden administration has processed hundreds of thousands of medical claims for illegals. This special treatment for illegals in Democrat cities and around the nation will continue under Biden and his cohorts get worried enough that a significant number of Democrats might not automatically vote Democrat in the future.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Some U.S. veterans die because they can't get health care but the Biden administration has processed hundreds of thousands of medical claims for illegals. This special treatment for illegals in Democrat cities and around the nation will continue under Biden and his cohorts get worried enough that a significant number of Democrats might not automatically vote Democrat in the future.

Signs someone didn't read the thread:

 

[eleos1954]

Mission of the VA is to serve veterans, not unauthorized migrants: Darin Selnick | Fox News Video

Concerned Veterans for America and Air Force veteran Darin Selnick discusses Veteran Affairs facing scrutiny for medical care for migrants and the calls for Congress to investigate.

www.foxnews.com

Mission of the VA is to serve veterans, not unauthorized migrants: Darin Selnick
Concerned Veterans for America and Air Force veteran Darin Selnick discusses Veteran Affairs facing scrutiny for medical care for migrants and the calls for Congress to investigate.

A Veteran is defined as a person who served in the active military, naval, or air service and who was discharged or released under conditions other than dishonorable.

Migrants are not veterans.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

A Veteran is defined as a person who served in the active military, naval, or air service and who was discharged or released under conditions other than dishonorable.

Migrants are not veterans.

More signs that someone has not read the thread.

 

[JustOneWay]

According to the foxnews.com article that he cited at the beginning of the segment, this is just about reimbursement processing, not about providing medical care. Every comment he made about veterans not being able to be seen is irrelevant.

Why would ICE spool up its own payment processing system for a relatively low number of reimbursement claims instead of utilizing a system that already exists? That seems pretty redundant and wasteful, no? Using the services of a third party or another government agency would allow them to keep their expenses lower. It sounds to me like the Fox host and his guest are advocating for less efficient government for the sake of stoking hate and resentment.

As RocksInMyHead pointed out from iluvatar5150's link

"The arrangement long predates the Biden administration. It was outlined in a 2020 memo during the Trump administration, and the VA told Fox News Digital that it has an interagency agreement with the IHSC since 2002 to provide processing. The agency stressed that it is not the VA that either provides healthcare or pays for it.

"VA does not provide or fund any health care services to individuals detained in [ICE] custody. At no time are any VA health care professionals or VA funds used for this purpose," VA press secretary Terrence Hayes told Fox News Digital. "[IHSC] provides and pays for all health care services for individuals detained in its custody."

This has been going on since 2002

Why didn't Selnick do something about this when he was an adviser for the Secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs under the Trump Administration?

Now I am convinced this is right-wing political theater

 

[Pommer]

It seems to me that you argue even when the poster (me) has already made the same point and is not in disagreement with you or did you just need to vent some more?

I wrote:
I haven't been able to find any report that this agreement between ICE and the VA has affected the scheduling of veteran's doctors' appointments or how their doctors are paid. I'm having trouble understanding the problems.
Neither the host nor the guest explained how making these payments causes veterans to have to wait for a doctor's visit.

But the “worldview” that proponents of such “stories” start with the premise that “government is bad” and if one agency finds another agency’s solution to a problem helpful to themselves, then they get all interconnected and you have MORE GOVERNMENT (which we already “know” is bad).

 

[USincognito]

As RocksInMyHead pointed out from iluvatar5150's link

"The arrangement long predates the Biden administration. It was outlined in a 2020 memo during the Trump administration, and the VA told Fox News Digital that it has an interagency agreement with the IHSC since 2002 to provide processing. The agency stressed that it is not the VA that either provides healthcare or pays for it.

"VA does not provide or fund any health care services to individuals detained in [ICE] custody. At no time are any VA health care professionals or VA funds used for this purpose," VA press secretary Terrence Hayes told Fox News Digital. "[IHSC] provides and pays for all health care services for individuals detained in its custody."

This has been going on since 2002

Why didn't Selnick do something about this when he was an adviser for the Secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs under the Trump Administration?

Now I am convinced this is right-wing political theater

Going by the vibe I'm getting from some recent threads, I think "brown people bad" is going to be the Convervisphere boogie man for 2024.

 

[Vambram]

Going by the vibe I'm getting from some recent threads, I think "brown people bad" is going to be the Convervisphere boogie man for 2024.

I predict that this statement is, and also will be, completely and totally incorrect.

 

[USincognito]

I predict that this statement is, and also will be, completely and totally incorrect.

Point taken. "Brown people bad" is a perennial talking point.

 

[Hank77]

If VA staffers are processing stuff for illegal immigrants, then not only are they helping illegal immigrants; that the the time spent doing so takes time aways from what they are supposed to be doing which is processing stuff for veterans.

They're not processing medical appointments. What they are doing for ICE is an accounting feature of medical provider's billing and payment. It has nothing to do with veterans' medical provider appointments which is what is stated and false.

 

[Vambram]

Point taken. "Brown people bad" is a perennial talking point.

No it isn't.

But it is the liberals trying to make it that way by accusing it of conservatives.

 

[JustOneWay]

No it isn't.

But it is the liberals trying to make it that way by accusing it of conservatives.

A pew poll shows that 70% of republicans believe illegal immigration is a problem.

Partisan differences in assessments of many national problems, but both Republicans and Democrats see the ability of the parties to work together as a problem

www.pewresearch.org

Yes, it is a perennial talking point.

 

[Vambram]

A pew poll shows that 70% of republicans believe illegal immigration is a problem.

Partisan differences in assessments of many national problems, but both Republicans and Democrats see the ability of the parties to work together as a problem

www.pewresearch.org

Yes, it is a perennial talking point.

Imagine that, .... Americans believe that breaking the law is a problem.

 

[DaisyDay]

Migrants are not veterans.

Some are(even though that is besides the point.

 

[JustOneWay]

Imagine that, .... Americans believe that breaking the law is a problem.

While you try to convince us that the republicans have no issue with 'brown people' coming over the border is just "liberals trying to make it that way by accusing it of conservatives."

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Getting back on topic, do we have any evidence that this arrangement between ICE and the VA is negatively impacting veterans? Or is this just manufactured outrage?

 

[JustOneWay]

Getting back on topic, do we have any evidence that this arrangement between ICE and the VA is negatively impacting veterans? Or is this just manufactured outrage?

Manufactured outrage
political theater
stirring division, hate and anger.

Yes to all above.

The one thing which bothers me the most is Christians unwilling to try to help other people who are not American.
Why should we treat people if they are not our people?

Sickening IMO

 

[eleos1954]

Some are(even though that is besides the point.

The point is migrants aren't veterans and should not get veteran benefits.

 

[iluvatar5150]

The point is migrants aren't veterans and should not get veteran benefits.

They're not getting veteran benefits. Only the propagandists in the OP (and those they dupe) are trying to conflate medical billing services with "veteran's benefits."

 

[DaisyDay]

The point is migrants aren't veterans and should not get veteran benefits.

Immigrant Veterans in the United States

Approximately 530,000 foreign-born veterans of the U.S. armed forces resided in the United States in 2018, accounting for 3 percent of the 18.6 million veterans nationwide. Immigrant veterans tend to have higher education levels and household incomes compared to native-born veterans, and the...

www.migrationpolicy.org

Some migrants are veterans. The ones who are should get veteran benefits; those not, should not. But that's an entirely moot point as this service being paid for by ICE is not a veterans' benefit.

Non-citizen veterans fight back against deportations over non-violent crimes

Some non-U.S. citizen veterans who were deported over non-violent crimes say there needs to be reform.

abcnews.go.com