Is humanity an evolution of data cloning ?

[chevyontheriver]

No, I think he's trying a poor attempt at blending philosophy with biological science.

Philosophy is important as a basis for all of the sciences, but yes, this seems to be some sort of conglomeration of Berkeley and something. Not much biological science actually in evidence yet.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

No , because Stephen is data . The data had to be ''programmed'' into the sentient being before he became Stephen .

No, Stephen became Stephen through his life experiences brought about by his upbringing and his reaction to his upbringing and his reaction to the world around him.

Stephen is not data. Stephen was given the name Stephen, he was not programmed into a sentient being by being given a name.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Philosophy is important as a basis for all of the sciences, but yes, this seems to be some sort of conglomeration of Berkeley and something. Not much biological science actually in evidence yet.

I actually take that back, since philosophy has nothing to do with it now it seems. It's just gone weird.

 

[chevyontheriver]

No definitely not . I am trying to evolve a theory that makes humans feel a lot better about death .

You can feel a lot better about death if you know your savior Jesus Christ and trust Him and are in obedience to him. Death is not a fearful thing then because to die that way is to be with Christ.

Yes I understand we have heaven but when I eventually prove our souls is the data , it is easy to show we leave our bodies after death in the form of light . Data in our minds is wave-function based.

In the form of light? Unobserved light? Unobservable light?

 

[fredis]

Yes, humans created the word human. That does not mean that humans did not exist before the word was created.

Human is a term that describes humanity . Humanity is a set of defining words that make us human , example - Thou shall not kill .


Without human ''programming'' we would be wild animals .

 

[YorkieGal]

Do we need to call for help for Stephen?

 

[fredis]

You can feel a lot better about death if you know your savior Jesus Christ and trust Him and are in obedience to him. Death is not a fearful thing then because to die that way is to be with Christ.

In the form of light? Unobserved light? Unobservable light?

Well we don't need to observe the light , we can see that the light has left a dead body and feel the coldness.

 

[chevyontheriver]

I actually take that back, since philosophy has nothing to do with it now it seems. It's just gone weird.

There were some weird philosophers. Berkeley was just one of them. Some of the Presocratics were also weird.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Human is a term that describes humanity . Humanity is a set of defining words that make us human , example - Thou shall not kill .


Without human ''programming'' we would be wild animals .

The only part that you got right is the sentence 'Human is a term that describes humanity'.

Humanity is not a set of defining words. Now you're talking philosophy, not biological science.

 

[fredis]

Do we need to call for help for Stephen?

Not at all , I am a scientist and know what I am talking about . Bare with me and you may understand eventually .

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

There were some weird philosophers. Berkeley was just one of them. Some of the Presocratics were also weird.

In all fairness, Stoicism is the only school of philosophy I give a jot about.

 

[chevyontheriver]

Well we don't need to observe the light , we can see that the light has left a dead body and feel the coldness.

Is the light unobservable? Is the theory testable?

A dead body grows cold because the biological processes of metabolism and thermal regulation have stopped.

 

[fredis]

The only part that you got right is the sentence 'Human is a term that describes humanity'.

Humanity is not a set of defining words. Now you're talking philosophy, not biological science.

I'm not talking philosophy or biological , I am talking physics actually . Data in the human mind has wave-function , I take it you've heard of brain waves ?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I'm not talking philosophy or biological , I am talking physics actually . Data in the human mind has wave-function , I take it you've heard of brain waves ?

You're trying to talk so much that you're saying nothing. That is the nicest way I can say it.

 

[YorkieGal]

Not at all , I am a scientist and know what I am talking about . Bare with me and you may understand eventually .

Mmhmm.

Referring to thoughts as 'data' and 'humans' as labels and babies as 'feral' makes for an interesting scientific discipline but, yeah, I'll sit by the sidelines and watch this evolve into whatever it is.......!

 

[fredis]

Is the light unobservable? Is the theory testable?

A dead body grows cold because the biological processes of metabolism and thermal regulation have stopped.

Thermal energy is light and brain waves are also light .

The theory is provable without testing .

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Thermal energy is light and brain waves are also light .

The theory is provable without testing .

And that last sentences basically screams out that you are not a scientist at all.

 

[fredis]

You're trying to talk so much that you're saying nothing. That is the nicest way I can say it.

Stephen exists but Stephen isn't alive because Stephen is a collection of data . Only Stephens host body is alive .

 

[eleos1954]

Hello all , I am new here , I am science minded but also believe in a God .


This thread does not concern itself with the sentient beings body that God created , it concerns itself with the evolution of humanity and the mind experience .


I am considering that humanity is taught to infants from birth and this information becomes stored data .

I am also considering that this data is cloned data , repeat information time after time taught to infants .

In evidential support I offer simply, words .

Humanity is the word to describe the human race ... it's not something taught .... it is the result of the human reproductive system (stored DNA) 1/2 from the male 1/2 from the female ... the DNA information stored becomes a physical human being at conception (leastwise the potential of becoming a fully formed human being) it determines the physical.

When born a baby starts learning and retains a certain amount of knowledge ... this knowledge grows throughout their lifetime and is stored in the memory of the brain. Our personality is determined by our individual experiences .... what we are exposed to .. and each of us are different ... nobody has the exact same experiences ... they are all different ... even if slightly.

We all have experiences and not all of them are taught.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Stephen exists but Stephen isn't alive because Stephen is a collection of data . Only Stephens host body is alive .

Again; talking so much that you're saying nothing.